Ares (Marvel) vs Wolverine

Started by jinzin16 pages
jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King KAM
silver samurai is a joke.

Says you.
Wolverine, The New Avengers, Spiderman, and SHIELD have all stated differently.

Originally posted by King KAM
Mr.X read taskmasters mind.
You didn't ask for the means, you asked for the ends.
What has X done aside from losing to Wolverine?
He killed 6 fully armed/trained/armored men while talking on his cell phone.
He beheaded headhunter.
He KOed Logan.
and he WTF pwnerized Taskmaster.... The guy is a badass.

Originally posted by King KAM
Ogun tought kitty pride who held her own against sabes....yeah...cuzz sabes is known for his finesse.

With a level of 6 to 7 in fighting skill and the demonstration of such against not only Wolverine, but Iron Fist as well he at least has the evidence to support that the claim to Kitty Pride is impressive.
Ogun was a top level fighter. Hell, Wolverine's stated that at his best he couldn't take Ogun.. he had to go berserker to beat the guy, and before that he was getting PWNed... Kitty's showing isn't so much a testement to the fact that she took on a skilled opponent (which it could very well stand for), it's a demonstration that her skills allow her to take on an opponenty who's superhuman capabilities well outclass her own for sheer physicality.

Originally posted by King KAM
and no, your not remembering the deathstrike fight right...Cap toyed with the *****.

fair enough.. Deathstrike doesn't exactly strike me as an impressive villain anyways. 😬

srankmissingnin VP of Comic Knowledge

Has anything new been said or are people still saying, "Ares is a god, so he wins" and ignoring the actual history of both of these characters?

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King KAM
its not that Ares has killed more people, its that he has killed thousands upon thousands of more warriors, all who had weapons and were in a war.

And?
I'm sorry but again, out of the list of characters your arguing against, who hasn't killed scores of warriors?

Of these thousands how many lacked superhuman capabilities?
How many were less superhuman than Ares himself?
How many were SKILLFUL fighters? As per your argument against Sabretooth, him slaying thousands of whomever doesn't mean much if they weren't much to overcome.

Originally posted by King KAM
he demonstrated ability to slay metahuman warriors strong enough to participate in god wars without being seriously injured. that takes skill.

True, but that again, doesn't mean he has equivolent skill to the characters he's being compared to.

Originally posted by King KAM
and as for gorgon...wolverine landed he big blow first.... 🙁

What? When they nailed Gorgon with an LSD rocket? Or when he speared Gorgon out of a skyscraper? Both cheapshots. 😬

Originally posted by King KAM
and ogun is nothing more than a shitty one arc....please dont stoop to capt it ups level and start jabbering about that summbitch...can we please stick to respectable debating?????your really above the ogun blah blah blahgatiy.

I'm sorry but the mans ability in martial arts training ALONE allowed him to gain quasi-mystical abilities to allow him to overcome pain, age, time, and even death.... that alone puts him at a higher level of skill than ANYTHING I've seen characters like Cap, Iron Fist, or Shang Chi replicate.. period. 😐

Aside from that Oguns been in several story archs, and had Wolverine admitting STRICT SUPERIORITY in h2h combat...
Something that NO ONE from the aformentioned other three have ever recieved....
There's no reason to ignore his abilities, likewise there's no reason to use that as copout.

All I'm asking here is for a demonstration of Ares' skill so I can properly guage him against these other examples.. I don't think that's being unreasonable.. and numbers are nice but they don't demonstrate skill. Titles are nice but there's much the same. Herc can fight god's, doesn't mean he's more skilled than those rogues... 😬

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Has anything new been said or are people still saying, "Ares is a god, so he wins" and ignoring the actual history of both of these characters?

Not really, I'm just trying to convince King Kam that Wolverine's rogues aren't a joke in the skills department.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by King KAM
what im telling you is that anyone who takes on sabes in h2h isnt fighting the most skillfull fighter...

fighting sabes is like fighting an ape with claws.

So it takes an ape with claws to land 5 unanswered blows on Iron Fist before he can return ONE?

An ape with claws to fight Wolverine in h2h and assure that no bone to bone contact is ever made throughout the entire conflict?

An ape with claws to demonstrate grappling skill in order to break the bones of a super soldier with skin harder than Luke Cages?

jasonk3 Restricted
Originally posted by jinzin
Not really, I'm just trying to convince King Kam that Wolverine's rogues aren't a joke in the skills department.

Omega Red put up a pretty good fight against Ironman...I'd say thats pretty damn impressive, he's also schooled colossus.

jasonk3 Restricted

Originally posted by jinzin
So it takes an ape with claws to land 5 unanswered blows on Iron Fist before he can return ONE?

An ape with claws to fight Wolverine in h2h and assure that no bone to bone contact is ever made throughout the entire conflict?

An ape with claws to demonstrate grappling skill in order to break the bones of a super soldier with skin harder than Luke Cages?

Oh and this ape with claws has also pwned spiderman and punisher before.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by jasonk3
Omega Red put up a pretty good fight against Ironman...I'd say thats pretty damn impressive, he's also schooled colossus.
Originally posted by jasonk3
Oh and this ape with claws has also pwned spiderman and punisher before.

Yep, they're definitely not a "joke"

Though I wouldn't attribute those instances to skill per se'.

Tyson20 Restricted

To be honest of Wolverine is faster and more agile than Ares, and can pierce his skin then he should win, that's as long as he knows what to do. Like not stabbing him just anywhere. He has to think and not act like an idiot.

lando005 Senior Member

gods of war >>> overrated mutants

but this should still be a fun fight

jinzin Senior Member

Feats>>>overrated titles.

but this should still be a gruesome fight.

lando005 Senior Member

Originally posted by jinzin
Feats>>>overrated titles.

but this should still be a gruesome fight.

best there is = overrated title.... just messin with ya ok my honest thoughts neither one of them go down to several "killer" death blows they strike on each other i can only see this ending up in a draw they fight soo much they end up coming across a giant monster they both have to double team or something but neither win

jinzin Senior Member

Hasn't Ares been put down by bullets?

Something tells me a few claws strikes is sufficient for the KO here.

Soljer Beware my Power

Originally posted by jinzin
Hasn't Ares been put down by bullets?

Something tells me a few claws strikes is sufficient for the KO here.

Wolverine was recently put down (and out - he didn't even heal back!) by a tiny little explosive.

jinzin Senior Member
Originally posted by Soljer
Wolverine was recently put down (and out - he didn't even heal back!) by a tiny little explosive.

when?

hunbu04 Senior Member

why are you guys posting 1970 marvel profile of Ares. This is Ares newest profile on both marvel and wiki
superhuman strength 7
intelligent 7
fighting ability 7
durability 6
speed 4
energy projection 2
wiki list hil as having superstrength,speed,reflexes,godlike stamina, durability,imortality, and regenerative healing factor meaning he can regenerate missing limbs. As feats comics Ares has been shown to have true flight, the ability to possessed mortals,project powerful energy blast from his axes, and walk among mortals unseen. and another thing logan claws are not more durable than Ares weapons. If you don't know Ares weapons are made of mystical Ademantine and are indestructible. Ares has also never beaten ercules. And if anyone think logan can beat herc than without a doubt they are fanboy. Hercules ran over pre civil war new avenger like they were nothing and that included logan,hulk,spiderman, cap, and others.

Lord S King

Wolverine got pwned by Wonder Man in a most brutal fashion.

Ares should be able to do it quicker, and better.

lft4ded the Desert Moon

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah because Ares is so formidable that only Thanos could possibly beat him, right? 🙄

Ares vs bullets (Maybe its Thanos dressed up like bullets?)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Ares205.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Ares206.jpg

Wolverine vs bullets

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverinev218411.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverinev218413.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v207/sinister_samurai/Wolverinev218414.jpg

I'm not sure what this shows. Ares's states the only reason he even fell from the bullets was because it had been so long since he felt pain. Then after a moment's clear thought about how other things were at stake, there was no indication that he was impaired what-so-ever he stood up and made several precision shots taking off trigger-fingers. And this is with a lower degree healing factor and no adamantium covered skull.

I'm hoping that WWH at least set a precedent for something that has been repeated about Logan's meat brain bouncing around in his metal skull.

Now Ares's is back in the thick of combat on the MA roster.

Hercules Count Of Durfisto
Originally posted by hunbu04
why are you guys posting 1970 marvel profile of Ares. This is Ares newest profile on both marvel and wiki
superhuman strength 7
intelligent 7
fighting ability 7
durability 6
speed 4
energy projection 2
wiki list hil as having superstrength,speed,reflexes,godlike stamina, durability,imortality, and regenerative healing factor meaning he can regenerate missing limbs. As feats comics Ares has been shown to have true flight, the ability to possessed mortals,project powerful energy blast from his axes, and walk among mortals unseen. and another thing logan claws are not more durable than Ares weapons. If you don't know Ares weapons are made of mystical Ademantine and are indestructible. Ares has also never beaten ercules. And if anyone think logan can beat herc than without a doubt they are fanboy. Hercules ran over pre civil war new avenger like they were nothing and that included logan,hulk,spiderman, cap, and others.

Arn't those stats fan voted?

I mean Ares = Intelligence 7???

Hercules ran through the New Avengers with Caps shield, yes but Hulk definetly wasn't there and he cheap shotted Cap. (he even apologised for what he was about to do)

Soljer Beware my Power
Originally posted by jinzin
when?

Wolverine 57.