Ares (Marvel) vs Wolverine

Started by King KAM16 pages

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yeah because Ares is so formidable that only Thanos could possibly beat him, right? 🙄

Would you like me to contact your local comic shop and have them put some comics aside for you, so that next time you decided to post on KMC you and I can both know what we are talking about? 😈

Ares vs bullets (Maybe its Thanos dressed up like bullets?)

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Wolverine vs bullets

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you would show the best wolverine bullet feat ever..... 😬

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
In any and all secenarios jumping at someone with your weapon held above your head is the worst possible opening move.

Thats depends if your faster than your opponent you sacrifice defense for power. Cleary Ares did the right move because the blow connected the only problem is that the person he hit had other powers.

In boxing as well you may sacrifice your defense for against an opponent who is slower.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

Ares vs bullets (Maybe its Thanos dressed up like bullets?)

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PIS. Wolverine and a deer 🤨 Hell even Bacchus the god of wine took a blow from She Hulk better than Ares can take bullets.

he actually didnt take those bullets that bad...he got up pretty quick...but did you see the mans aim?!?!?!?!!!

Originally posted by King KAM
he actually didnt take those bullets that bad...he got up pretty quick...

Yeah he shouldnt be going down in the first place, he also says this. "Its been so long since i've felt any pain that I fall over." I still dont think it should hurt at all hes a bloody olympian god!

Originally posted by King KAM

but did you see the mans aim?!?!?!?!!!

Not bad

Furthermore Dionysus the god of wine has taken shots from She Hulk and Ares the god of war cant take bullets???? Get the **** out PIS.

Those arent even big guns there just measly 38 caliber.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Yeah he shouldnt be going down in the first place, he also says this. [B]"Its been so long since i've felt any pain that I fall over." I still dont think it should hurt at all hes a bloody olympian god!

Not bad

Furthermore Dionysus the god of wine has taken shots from She Hulk and Ares the god of war cant take bullets???? Get the **** out PIS.

Those arent even big guns there just measly 38 caliber. [/B]

gods-skin isnt bullet proof except hercs.....and thats because of his muscles, if the caliber is high enough even thor would get pierced.

and yes, he does says that he was caught off guard from the pain, Wolverine says it best, "me and pain are old friends", meaning he gets shot ALOT so he isnt shocked as much by it....Ares hadnt eaten a bullet in years. give the god a break.

and nope....not bad at all??

Originally posted by King KAM
gods-skin isnt bullet proof except hercs.....and thats because of his muscles, if the caliber is high enough even thor would get pierced.

I dunno about that. If the god of wine can take shots from She Hulk. Ares isnt getting floored by 38 caliber pistols.

Yeah I think Thor is getting pierced by a 100 caliber guns.

Originally posted by King KAM

and yes, he does says that he was caught off guard from the pain,

There you go but he should be bullet proof at that strength level.

Originally posted by King KAM

Wolverine says it best, "me and pain are old friends", meaning he gets shot ALOT so he isnt shocked as much by it....Ares hadnt eaten a bullet in years. give the god a break.

Yeah.

Originally posted by King KAM

and nope....not bad at all??

Hey im english we have a tendency to say not bad when somethings really good. srug

Originally posted by King KAM
if the caliber is high enough even thor would get pierced.

ermmgay

Originally posted by Alfheim
I dunno about that. If the god of wine can take shots from She Hulk. Ares isnt getting floored by 38 caliber pistols.

Yeah I think Thor is getting pierced by a 100 caliber guns.

There you go but he should be bullet proof at that strength level.

Yeah.

Hey im english we have a tendency to say not bad when somethings really good. srug

no it doesnt take a 100 caliber bullet to pierce thor, Thors skin is only about 5 times more sense than a human beings, he can take blunt force, but things like .45 bullets can pierce his skin.

Taking shots from She Hulk is blunt force Trauma, Wonder Woman takes shots from Super Man but she still uses her gaunlets to block bullets.

Wrecker and the crew can take shots from Thor but a standard arrow from Hawkeyes bow still pierced Piledrivers skin.

Having super strength doesn't equal bullet proof, Spiderman has Super strength, still needs to dodge bullets.

The problem with Ares is he has so many low showings, hes a four thousand year old God of War who is proficient in the use of every weapon known to man, no one should be able to stand hand to hand or weapon to weapon with him.

But like Champion he was a villian and the apearence he did have got jobbed out. He fought namor and actually pushed him into water, would the God of War be that dumb tacticaly to knock the submariner into his own element?

He has shown the ability to sense magic and demons and does pretty well against supernatural beings he has even shown the ability to posses mortals when he took over Masterson Thor to use him to fight Herc.

His down fall is, if we got on feat wars he hasn't the apearences that more established characters have and in a lot of them hes on the wrong side of an ass whupping.

Ares was goaded into attacking Ultron in a careless manner, this should be no indication of his skill, just that he is very arrogant and Ultron insulting him and his Godhood made him lose control.

Is that a fair assessment of Ares? well yes it is, he may be the God of war but hes not Athena and hes rash and in Myth he was even a bit of a coward and would flee if a battle wasn't going his way.

Should he be beating Wolverine, I think so yes, on paper he should be more skilled, far stronger, immortal etc etc.

But if were going to have a feat war here then Wolverines feats are better but seriously, give Bendis some more time on Ares, he wants to write and Ares that can beat Thor and seeing as how Thor is one of the most powerful Marvel heroes I can only assume hes going to write an Ares that could beat Thor through skill not pure power.

The Greek Pantheon has always been shafted by Marvel because Stan Lee wanted to concentrate on Thor and the Asgardians, this means their apearences are small and so are there feats.

Ares should be getting more and more feats that push him up the charts with regards to Martial skill and power as Mighty Avengers goes on and then this debate would be much more interesting.

Originally posted by King KAM
no it doesnt take a 100 caliber bullet to pierce thor, Thors skin is only about 5 times more sense than a human beings, he can take blunt force, but things like .45 bullets can pierce his skin.

Oh god how much newbie can you be to say that?
Thor's body has METAHUMAN level of durability.Puncture, space pressure, ocean pressure, bolts of cosmic power from the likes of Surfer or Firelord, he can take it all.Check the respect thread.45 bullets can pierce Thor, oh yeah, and you know I once met a real Green Lantern?Come on...
And about Hawkeye VS Wreckin Crew, he was using the special arrows Thor left to the Avengers in case they met someone of his level.

Originally posted by K3VIL
Oh god how much newbie can you be to say that?
Thor's body has METAHUMAN level of durability.Puncture, space pressure, ocean pressure, bolts of cosmic power from the likes of Surfer or Firelord, he can take it all.Check the respect thread.45 bullets can pierce Thor, oh yeah, and you know I once met a real Green Lantern?Come on...
And about Hawkeye VS Wreckin Crew, he was using the special arrows Thor left to the Avengers in case they met someone of his level.
im pretty sure his bio used to say he could be shot, not that it would do much, but it would break the skin

Originally posted by K3VIL

And about Hawkeye VS Wreckin Crew, he was using the special arrows Thor left to the Avengers in case they met someone of his level.

No he wasn't, go back and read Secret Wars, Piledriver was shocked because he could take bullets and not be hurt.

Hawkeye informed him that a shot from a compound bow had more penetration power at close range than a .45 calibre bullet.

Seriously where the hell did you get that from? Piledriver is hardly on Thor's level...

Originally posted by Hercules
Is that a fair assessment of Ares? well yes it is, he may be the God of war but hes not Athena and hes rash and in Myth he was even a bit of a coward and would flee if a battle wasn't going his way.

One of the best scenes in the Illiad is Zeus calling Ares a crybaby ✅

And those other points you made were really good too.

Originally posted by Hercules
No he wasn't, go back and read Secret Wars, Piledriver was shocked because he could take bullets and not be hurt.

Hawkeye informed him that a shot from a compound bow had more penetration power at close range than a .45 calibre bullet.

Seriously where the hell did you get that from? Piledriver is hardly on Thor's level...


The only time Hawkeye hurted the Wreckin Crew was by using magical arrows Thor left for him it happened during Avengers disassembled.

Originally posted by Hercules
Taking shots from She Hulk is blunt force Trauma, Wonder Woman takes shots from Super Man but she still uses her gaunlets to block bullets.

C'mon man you wanna bring a character from another universe into this. Im pretty sure all class 100s are bulletproof. WW is the exception to the rule.

Originally posted by Hercules

Wrecker and the crew can take shots from Thor

Most people at class 10 should not be taking shots from Thor or bullets. The only thing I can draw from that is that they are the exception to the rule. Doesnt make any sense at all.

Originally posted by Hercules

but a standard arrow from Hawkeyes bow still pierced Piledrivers skin.

I think you say later on that Hawkeyes standard arrows are more powerful than 45 caliber pistols at close range.

Originally posted by Hercules

Having super strength doesn't equal bullet proof, Spiderman has Super strength, still needs to dodge bullets.

Spiderman is class 10. Loads of class 10s are not bulletproof. Considering the fact that streetlevelers can stun him thats not suprising at all.

Originally posted by King KAM
no it doesnt take a 100 caliber bullet to pierce thor, Thors skin is only about 5 times more sense than a human beings, he can take blunt force, but things like .45 bullets can pierce his skin.

That was sarcasm. Im pretty sure ive seen Thor take bullets at some stage.

No it happened in secret wars too.

Have you read Secret Wars?

Thats a very bold statement to make if you haven't.

Originally posted by Alfheim
C'mon man you wanna bring a character from another universe into this. Im pretty sure all class 100s are bulletproof. WW is the exception to the rule.

No they really arn't superhuman strength doesn't always equal superhuman durabilty, to blunt force trauma maybe but not to penetration and puncture wounds no.

Wonder woman was as good as an exmple as any, besides Dioynus isn't anywhere near a class 100 and Rage who is a class 80 or better had his skin penetrated by a shard of metal weilded by a standard human.

Most people at class 10 should not be taking shots from Thor or bullets. The only thing I can draw from that is that they are the exception to the rule. Doesnt make any sense at all.

Again you are equating strength class to durability, don't!, there are some extremely durable guys in Marvel who don't possess superhuman strength.

I think you say later on that Hawkeyes standard arrows are more powerful than 45 caliber pistols at close range.

Its not the arrows its the bow they are fired from and the range, my point is that a penetration wound is entirely different from getting struck by a fist.

For all we know that pistol could have been using hollow points and not standard bullets. Piledriver was very shocked that a mere arrow pierced his skin, my point still stands that people with power and durablity of a God can be hurt by standard earth weapons.

Ares of myth has been wounded by a spear, a spear thrown by a demi god and guided by Athena but a spear none the less.

Spiderman is class 10. Loads of class 10s are not bulletproof. Considering the fact that streetlevelers can stun him thats not suprising at all.

Spiderman hasn't been a class 10 for a while now and I was using him as a point of reference to superhuman strenght not automaticaly equaling Super human durability.

Some say Peter is now as high as a class 25, this would put him up there with Cage and bullets bounce off Cage like raindrops, in fact even when Cage was only listed as lifting 3 tons he was still way more durable than a lot of guys a lot stronger than he was, Spiderman included.

Originally posted by Hercules
No they really arn't superhuman strength doesn't always equal superhuman durabilty, to blunt force trauma maybe but not to penetration and puncture wounds no.

If you can list class 100ers in Marvel who are not bulletproof then maybe i'll change my mind.

Originally posted by Hercules

Wonder woman was as good as an exmple as any,

See my statement above.

Originally posted by Hercules

besides Dioynus isn't anywhere near a class 100

My point was he has taken shots from She Hulk, therefore Ares is taken bullets.

Originally posted by Hercules

and Rage who is a class 80 or better had his skin penetrated by a shard of metal weilded by a standard human.

I think you posted that in the underestimated characters thread. Apparently Rhino has been hurt by an old lady weilding a broom.

Originally posted by Hercules

Again you are equating strength class to durability, don't!,

Yeah I will because everybody who has superhuman strength has superhuman durability. The question is at what strength level to they become bulletproof.

Originally posted by Hercules

there are some extremely durable guys in Marvel who don't possess superhuman strength.

That because their power is specifically to do with durability. Super durability doesnt always equal superhumans strength but superhuman strength does always equal superhuman durability.

Originally posted by Hercules

Its not the arrows its the bow they are fired from and the range, my point is that a penetration wound is entirely different from getting struck by a fist.

I know that and at class 10 I dont have a problem with that. Now are you telling me that a 38 caliber bullet strikes with more force than a punch from somebody who can lift 100, 000s of tons? The damage mybe different but at some point blunt force trauma will be more powerful than damage from sharp object.

Originally posted by Hercules

For all we know that pistol could have been using hollow points and not standard bullets. Piledriver was very shocked that a mere arrow pierced his skin,

He class 10

Originally posted by Hercules

my point still stands that people with power and durablity of a God can be hurt by standard earth weapons.

No it doesnt you have given me people in the class 10 strength range. Hell thunderball has been knocked out by one punch from Cap and im supposezd to eb suprised their not bulletproof.

Originally posted by Hercules

Ares of myth has been wounded by a spear, a spear thrown by a demi god and guided by Athena but a spear none the less.

Bro you cant bring myth into this. The world of Greek mythology is different from marvel. If I wanted to use Norse mythology Thor would be as powerful as Odin.

Originally posted by Hercules

Spiderman hasn't been a class 10 for a while now and I was using him as a point of reference to superhuman strenght not automaticaly equaling Super human durability.

Some say Peter is now as high as a class 25, this would put him up

Well i think somebody should start being bulletproof around 50 tons defintely class 100

Originally posted by Hercules

there with Cage and bullets bounce off Cage like raindrops, in fact even when Cage was only listed as lifting 3 tons he was still way more durable than a lot of guys a lot stronger than he was, Spiderman included.

Again Cage is the exception to the rule. Extra durability is an added power, anybody else of equivalent strength would be killed by bullets thats why its says on his bio his punches hurt harder than people who have the same strength level because he is the exception to the rule.

Originally posted by Evil_Ash
ermmgay

Which comic is this from?

Yeah but im pretty sure ive seen Thor takeing shots from bullets before.