Originally posted by Emperor AshtarOr he was just meant to be more powerful. Which is why he is liked alot. However Akuma did that Bison killer before he was really known or a normal playable character in most media though.
But, you don't think that it's in due in part of fan wanking?
Personally I'd rather watch a movie with Bison as the villain for the most part. He has the personality, the setting, the look. Akuma doesn't really say much of anything, he just fights. Bison and Ken make the movies (like 2v) much more interesting because of their versatility and persona. Bison is just the right kind of villain. He has the look, the chin, the grin, and he's huge. Bison's the man.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarIt has been "stated" or implied in more ways that he will be the ultimate villain for the protagonist. Bison usually served as the penultimate or as a milestone early on in his career. But no official source will usually "state" which character in their universe is the strongest directly anyways, so that's not what one would look for.
I don't see that since it was never stated that Gouki is the strongest. If you put them in a fight, Bison clearly has much more advantages on his side.
Bison has the ability to fly, but that probably won't help unless he's going to get away. I don't believe him to be faster or more powerful at all. Though he is very fast and very powerful.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
IMO it's the balance of probabilities... Bison is indeed capableof defeating Akuma in Alpha 3, but Akuma is the ONLY one who posessed the capability of killing Bison without needing to destroy the Drive first, he already had the ultimate killing technique that disreguards immortality.I am firmly in the corner of Akuma though, his fighting capability far outshines Bison's by huge margins, although they posess a similar level of power, Akuma simply has tonnes more skill and loads more technique.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Gill's technique is a little different, it's an actual technique rather than a power being fed in by the Psycho Drive. In Bison's case, he isn't actually Immortal, because lets face it, he was going to die soon if he didn't get Ryu's body... Bison's power was exeeding his body's limits, this was exasperated further once he started gaining power through the Drive. the only thing the Psycho Drive does is bring in an unlimited supply of energy, and can regenerate Bison's wounds. This however is inconsequential to the SGS, since it takes the victim into hell, and depending on his or her level of sin, their soul can be trapped there for ever, Bison's body comes back soulless, and is therefore dead, since no matter how much the Drive can regenerate, it cannot regenerate a Soul entirely.Gill on the other hand, I beleive has some form of Divination, he is actually able to bring himself back from Death Itself. I don't know how he does it, or how his soul can escape from hell... Maybe because he is not evil enough to be trapped there permanently... I dunno, but Bison's soul id now justfood for the likes of Darkstalkers and other Maki dwellers...
My oppinions on this matter, in a nutshell, Bison is immortal to a certain extent, but he is not omnipotent, and obviously not completely invincible.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
It has been "stated" or implied in more ways that he will be the ultimate villain for the protagonist. Bison usually served as the penultimate or as a milestone early on in his career. But no official source will usually "state" which character in their universe is the strongest directly anyways, so that's not what one would look for.Bison has the ability to fly, but that probably won't help unless he's going to get away. I don't believe him to be faster or more powerful at all. Though he is very fast and very powerful.
I don't see how that makes him more powerful.
Originally posted by Remulous Dohma
Some ones gotta take out the Psycho Drive if they are gonna beat Bison. If the Psycho Drive still exists and works, Bison can just keep coming back. IMO, Gouki is faster, stronger, and is more durable but that Psycho Drive kinda makes Bison as invincible as a SF character can get.
I guess you didn't read what I posted, eh Remu?
Originally posted by XenogearsRead the quote bellow, wise guy...
No one in SF is anywhere near invincible. In fact no one here thinks an SFer is invincible, 'cept you and probably remy.
Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Remulous actually said "near invincible as any SF'er can get" not that Bison was invincible. They mean two totally different things.
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroHow many times can Gill Resurrect him self and whos to say that when Gouki does the Shungokusatsu that Bison just doesn't attempt to poses Gouki? He can do that since he's got the drive. And if he wants to take Ryu's body, he'll REALLY want Gouki's.
I happen to disagree with you there Remulous... Read my post about the SGS completely disreguarding the drive.
Originally posted by Remulous Dohma
How many times can Gill Resurrect him self and whos to say that when Gouki does the Shungokusatsu that Bison just doesn't attempt to poses Gouki? He can do that since he's got the drive. And if he wants to take Ryu's body, he'll REALLY want Gouki's.
Gill can only ressurect once a day.
Even if he did try that, what good will it do him? he's still trapped in hell if the SGS hits him. Plus, you have to prove that Gouki will fall to the mind control, Gouki is every bit as strong willed as Ryu, and posesses vastly more power, skill and experience.