Hitmonchan vs Hitmonlee

Originally posted by Neo2000
I took one kick, he was out of balance .

Kicks>Punches in terms of power, the problem is that kicks are supposed to be used as a long range means of fighting. Many people end up trying to use High or Mid kicks during a fight which is dumb.

Fact is your legs are three times more powerful then your hands. A good roundhouse kick can break your arm if you try to block it.

The problem with MA is that they have limited scope, they believe they can use one type of fighting principle for every type of situation.

Take Wing Chun, in a close range bout with limited footwork and tight arm space he has the advantage. Reason why is because chunners learn to punch using their elbows as leverage with a rooted stance. It's called a chain punch, and it's really complicated to use effectively ( You have to root yourself correctly and have solid hands). Compared to a boxer who uses his shoulder to punch, a chunners punch is weak. Not to mention useless on the ground, But in this situation it's perfect because wing chun works best at a trapping distance. Now in a wide open area versus multiple opponents or even one opponent with good long range attacks would you use Wing Chun only?

Kicks are harder and have a better reach.

Punches are faster and easier to pull off, ands you dont make as big openings as kicking does.

Originally posted by Neo2000
Kicks are harder and have a better reach.

Punches are faster and easier to pull off, ands you dont make as big openings as kicking does.

100% true.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
100% true.

If you keeps pushing forwards and actually know how to punch, which many boxers don't, kickers won't stand much of a chance.

Originally posted by Neo2000
If you keeps pushing forwards and actually know how to punch, which many boxers don't, kickers won't stand much of a chance.

I partly agree, but you seem to be convinced that boxing is top tier in the fighting world.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
I partly agree, but you seem to be convinced that boxing is top tier in the fighting world.

In a streetfight, if you stick to boxingrules, you should have problems.
However, a karateka who punches you down streetfighterstyle does not follow karaterules, neither.
Thats a factor a lot of people forgets.

Originally posted by Neo2000
In a streetfight, if you stick to boxingrules, you should have problems.
However, a karateka who punches you down streetfighterstyle does not follow karaterules, neither.
Thats a factor a lot of people forgets.

There are no rules in fighting which is my point, you cannot have the same mentality in a boxing match as you do in a Street Fight.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
There are no rules in fighting which is my point, you cannot have the same mentality in a boxing match as you do in a Street Fight.

Originally posted by Neo2000
Thats true. I sticks to the boxingstance and boxing punches in a streetfight, but i am in a more... "careful" mood, while still going for the defensive. Hard to explain. You just have to remember that there is no judge to stop the fight now.

not to emntion that you can die, I'm currently intrested in learning Hung Gar and Jujutsu.

If you gets in a floorfight, Junjutsu is VERY effective.

And by no judge to ring the bell, thats what i meant😉

Originally posted by Neo2000
If you gets in a floorfight, Junjutsu is VERY effective.

And by no judge to ring the bell, thats what i meant😉

hitmontop is better than the both of them

Originally posted by Neo2000
Hitmonchan, as a boxer, is tough. he would take one or two kicks from Hitmonlee to get in close and hit him with hundreds of punches very quickly. Hitmonchans pokedex entry says he punches so fast that it looks like he is not doing anything. That takes a punchingspeed near lightspeed. Hitmonlee may be tough, but 10 punches should be enough to knock him out, and hundreds of Hitmanchans is overkill. But Hitmonlee could play it smart with some Ninja maneuvers. Like poisoning Hitmonchan.

Hitmonchan 6.5/10

And Hitmonlee's entry says "When kicking the sole of its foot turns as hard as a diamond on impact it destroys its enemy." And it says for Hitmonchan that it needs a break after three minutes of fighting.

Originally posted by ESB -1138
And Hitmonlee\'s entry says \"When kicking the sole of its foot turns as hard as a diamond on impact it destroys its enemy.\" And it says for Hitmonchan that it needs a break after three minutes of fighting.

So, basically, Hitmonchan is IMMENSELY fast because he can punch at light speed, and Hitmonlee is extremely damagedealing, because he can kick with diamondforce?

And since Hitmonchan can punch at lightspeed, he must have good selfcontrol. Its possible he can dodge he kcik and get close.

Also, Hitmonchan should hit before Hitmonlee get the kick done.

The legs freely contract and stretch. The stretchy legs allow it to hit a distant foe with a rising kick. Hitmonlee will be very capable of taking down Hitmonchan. And because Hitmonchan can punch fast that doesn't mean he can move fast.

Hitmonlee will win I think because of superior running speed and power. And as for boxing being the best style is crap. I'm not putting down boxing, but a good grappler of kicker could take a one down and vice versa. I think you should combine hands, feet, and grapples in a streetfight.

P.S. To anyone who considers Butterbean a boxer, **** YOU!

Anyways, Hitmonlees kicks will be a nonfactor...

WHy? Because before he has pulled one off, Hitmonchan has already landed 10 lightspeedpunches at him, ad that is too much for Hitmonlee

I figured you all might appreciate these.

Boxing > average schmoes.

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MMA> Purist