Full power Galactus is what exactly?
Galactus has claimed to be full powered after eating a planet.
In this months F4 Galactus was replenished from the energies of Gravity 😬
Galactus is a finite being who requires outside sustenance. A Phoenix is hooked up to a well of near infinite energy. While Galactus after eating a planet could hang with her for a little while, he would eventually use up his reserves and then what? Is Phoenix gonna let him take a lunch break? 😂
He illustrates the point im making quite clearly:
He is a limited being. He burns off his energy reserves. Phoenix is hooked up to an unlimited power source and would keep on going.
"I hover near to death, my strength depleted, exhausted in our struggle, while you are NEITHER weary nor hungry BECAUSE you tap into a source of near limitless potential, the sea of life yet unborn"
Galactus would get punked. Galactus has got punked. Regardless of whether he's eaten or not, he cant destroy the Phoenix as its indestructible and to finish it off, whilst he would use up his reserves, she would carry on undeterred.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
A well-fed to full-power Galactus
A Celestial
Elder Gods (The God-Eater and so forth)
Original Tyrant
High-end Mystic Beings like Shuma-Gorath, Vishanti.And finally, I cast a vote for Broly because his chest is bigger than hers. Plus he destroyed a galaxy in no time flat.
None of the above 🙄
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Then he starts eating her.
She wields greater energies than him and is a high level cosmic with high level energy manipulation skills, far in excess of anything Galactus has demonstrated so she wouldnt let that happen.
With the Hyperstorm case, Hyperstorm was just a mutant tapped into a near infinite energy source, thats why he could be taken out by Galactus and manipulated. He was human of mind, human of nature. Galactus had a weaker power source, but was a higher level being, with a degree of cosmic awareness and a higher skill level when it came to energy manipulation.
So in other words...nope.
I believe theoretical "full powered Galactus" is if he decides to consume a universe one day(which is supposively in his power) though since he has not shown the ability to do this on panel, it is all theory. Anyways back to the thread MJJ, Jamie Braddock, pre-retcon beyonder, pre-retcon Molecular Man, HOM Wanda, Insane Genis-Vell could all beat Dark Phoenix.
Originally posted by mykke
since he has not shown the ability to do this on panel, it is all theory.
😄
Originally posted by mykke
Anyways back to the thread MJJ, Jamie Braddock, pre-retcon beyonder, pre-retcon Molecular Man, HOM Wanda, Insane Genis-Vell could all beat Dark Phoenix.
MJJ on panel only ever warped reality on a global scale. In terms of on panel feats he pales in comparison to Phoenix and alot of characters. On top of that given that he is human, has human durability and reflexes before he uses his power on himself, he can get taken out by many a character.
Jamie Braddock, got punked by the First Fallen who is Phoenix level. Jamie Braddock was fearful of the First Fallen and said character was regarded by Jaspers as his superior which is why he ran to the X-men for help. On top of that his feats pale in comparison to Phoenixes.
Pre retcon Mol and Beyonder beat Phoenix in terms of regard from other characters and thats all. Since that Saga all those years ago, Phoenix has performed feats which put theirs to shame.
Wanda warped the Earth and only the Earth as stated on panel by Roma and as stated in the intro pages to issues of Uncanny X-men and Exiles. People assumed she warped the entire universe, that was a misinterpretation. On panel statements are greater than opinion. Wandas Chaos Wave was catalysed by her power, it wasnt something she directly created and controlled. Just something she set off by accidentally ripping open a hole in the dimensional wall of 616. As such the Chaos Wave and all it did are not feats of Wandas.
Insane Genis Vell was a threat because his power was linked to the Big Bang by Baron Zemo. He never wielded universal power. Because the Big Bang is the beginning and end of existence, his connection to it, meant his powers caused disruptions across the timeline.
Genis got taken out by Baron Zemo wielding the moonstones 😬
Once again, Genis never wielded anything close to universal power.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
lolololoolGuys, GalacticStorm thinks Dark Phoenix can beat a CELESTIAL.
Dear God, your fanboyism GS.... By feats, a Celestial wouldn't even NOTICE Dark Pheonix and would still annihilate her.
Unless the threadmaker is specifically talking about Dark Phoenix in her appearances between issues 134 to 137 of Uncanny X-men then Dark Phoenix could quite easily beat a Celestial.
Dark Phoenix is what a Phoenix gone bad is called. Your lack of knowledge with regards to Phoenix has lead you to believe that that reference is strictly referring to the Phoenix character between the aforementioned issues. You were wrong.
Glad to be of help.
Unless the threadmaker is specifically talking about Dark Phoenix in her appearances between issues 134 to 137 of Uncanny X-men then Dark Phoenix could quite easily beat a Celestial.Dark Phoenix is what a Phoenix gone bad is called. Your lack of knowledge with regards to Phoenix has lead you to believe that that reference is strictly referring to the Phoenix character between the aforementioned issues. You were wrong.
Glad to be of help.
I think a Celestial can do more damage than an electromagnetic pulse.
Dark Pheonix would beat Galactus and a Celestial, and no I am not a fanboy like GalacticStorm...but come on, objectively...who are you kidding ?DP is higher in power than the others
How many galaxies has she destroyed then?
Has she ever started to eat the universe itself?
No.
She ate a star and fought the X-Men.
I'm not impressed.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
I think a Celestial can do more damage than an electromagnetic pulse.
The Phoenix Force let Jean die as she didnt need to be in reality anymore. Phoenix manifests to perform "Phoenix work", if shes not needed, the Phoenix Force calls her back.
In New X-men 128 the Phoenix Force foretold the coming battle with Xorneto where she visualized it to Xavier and said she is "born and consumed in blood flame and sacrifice" but always returns because it is the last hope:
In New X-men 150 the same issue Jean had her physicality destroyed she said she didnt no how much longer she would be allowed to stay:
After she was "killed" Jean was reborn to perform her Phoenix work.
Jean has bathed in stars, Phoenix avatars have laughed off blasts from Galactus and his heralds and yet you actually thought that if the Phoenix wanted to stick around that it could be killed by an EM pulse? 🤨
Originally posted by Nikkolas
How many galaxies has she destroyed then?Has she ever started to eat the universe itself?
No.
She ate a star and fought the X-Men.
I'm not impressed.
Phoenix has contained a multiversal power, manipulated the entire universe telekinetically twice, thrashed Galactus and his herald and cancelled out a black hole in Endsong, projected a tower across the multiverse duplicating in every reality, eaten a star, given a barren planet life just to name a few things. 🙂
Dark Phoenix is Phoenix gone bad.
Uncanny X-men 134 to 137 was AN appearance of Dark Phoenix. Not THE appearance of Dark Phoenix.
Do some background reading to prepare yourself for debate. ✅
Signing out. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix has contained a multiversal power,
Not true.
Phoenix was getting absorbed by the N-Galaxy:
Phoenix NEEDED all the X-Men plus Corsair to HELP her Repair or Re-Knit the Lattice or "Interlocking Stasis Fields" that truly contained the N-Galaxy.
"For ALL Her awesome Power, She CAN'T DO IT ALONE"
"AND THEN SUDDENLY,
The SPIRITS of the X-MEN are WITH HER,
GIVING of THEMSELVES AS STORM and CORSAIR GAVE"
ALL the X-Men gave their LIFE-FORCE to help REPAIR the Lattice.
It's the "Interlocking Stasis Fields" that contains the N-Galaxy:
"HELD in Check by a Series of Interlocking Stasis Fields"
"Phoenix flew into the Energy Matrix And, with the X-MEN'S HELP, knitted the Fields back together again"
Or if you prefer Jean herself telling us:
Here Phoenix Tries to FIX the Lattice Alone
"But it's NOWHERE NEAR good enough"
and Phoenix does NOT "contain" the power of the N-Galaxy that does the destroying.
"a Network of interlocking Stasis Fields NEUTRALIZES the power of the N-Galaxy"....she was only able to knit the interlocking Stasis Fields back together"
Phoenix even says, their
"ONLY Hope is to Knit the Lattice Back Together BEFORE it PASSES the Point of No Return"
After that, they're all cooked, including Phoenx. 🙂
The Second time the Crystal was in danger,
Phoenix AGAIN, NEEDED All the X-Men:
"They exist as a Single Entity now, these X-Men" ...
"as ONE MIND & SPIRIT they focused on Restoring the Nexus of Realities"
yawn
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
manipulated the entire universe telekinetically twice,
Been handled too many times.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
thrashed Galactus and his herald
This Galactus?
"I have NEED of SUSTENANCE"
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
and cancelled out a black hole in Endsong,
Whoopi doo.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
projected a tower across the multiverse duplicating in every reality,
VIA the Interface Alignment.
Nice try.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
eaten a star, given a barren planet life just to name a few things.
Wow, now that's impressive.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Do some background reading to prepare yourself for debate.
Or just exaggerate every detail of Phoenix's existence.
