Yeah, I can see your point about that. Makes sense actually.
But here's what gets me though. Lucas was a hero to everyone for making the OT. (I don't care that the last 2 had different directors. They're still Lucas' movies.) But then GL makes a few movies that don't live up to some people's expectations, and all the sudden he's the biggest failure, piece of garbage there is. Now, why is that?
I honestly don't see how in god's name that ROTJ can be looked upon as a better film than ROTS. Right there to me, one of the Prequels beat one of the OT movies, by a longshot. ROTJ isn't that great compared to the first 2, but still a good movie in general.
I won't stand here and say by any means that the Prequels were better film's than the originals, becaues they aren't. What I will say is that I just flat out find the newer ones more fun and enjoyable to watch. I can't see what Lucas did that was so horrendous to have people driving a knife in his chest.
To like the Prequels, you have to understand Lucas. He's a visual story teller, and yes, by far the visuals do all the story telling in the prequels. Maybe that upset a few people, but that's his style, and I wouldn't trade it for any other director.
Originally posted by Sith Master X
Yeah, I can see your point about that. Makes sense actually.But here's what gets me though. Lucas was a hero to everyone for making the OT. (I don't care that the last 2 had different directors. They're still Lucas' movies.) But then GL makes a few movies that don't live up to some people's expectations, and all the sudden he's the biggest failure, piece of garbage there is. Now, why is that?
piece of garbage? thats an appraisal i reserve for people who deserve it. no, i only refer to him as a fat lazy arrogant delluded greedy has-been, who hasnt a creative spark left in him (in regards to star wars anyhow). there is nothing original about the PT.
NOTHING.
i point that out and im labeled as a hater, however with SS's well intentioned "visual storytelling at its finest" thread we can clearly see that he's milking his brainchild from 20 years ago with nothing to add but cgi filler. everything that made me go "wow" was already predetermined by the OT. (except for darth maul, but there is nothing more to him than the 'cool factor' of a double blade weilding kungfu master.) the aliens are old and borrowed from 1983 with nothing new and interesting. his universe, rather than expanding as was the progression of the OT, contracted and constricted, suffocating itself right down to the core characters.
(general comment) i could turn around and label all you adament supporters as mindless fanboys, just to let you know how petty it is to throw labels around and try to win the debate ad hominem, but..2 wrongs...
Jar Jar DID ruin TPM. Not to say it's unwatchable, just well below expectations. And from my own perspective, I blame that on Jar Jar first, Jake Lloyd second, and Natalie Portman third.
The movies went from space opera classic in ANH, to dramatic visually stunning (as of 1980) good vs. evil epic of ESB, to ROTJ: which was starting to become unoriginal, rather silly, and childish. Mainly due to the Ewoks and the repeating Death Star.
Lucas latched onto the silly and childish part and dragged it into the PT: perma-fried, mentally degenerated, Rastafarian-sounding Jar Jar, precocious wee Anakin and naive young Padme with their scripted lines, and (in the long run of the movies), an overall useless plot line for SW that served as little more than an introduction to characters and a biological explanation for the Force.
The PT is a box-office, and overall financial success, but fails to deliver its stories in new and original ways, sans the computers. Key actors are either wooden or scripted, which can often fail to create a sense of pity or empathy for them. A number of scenes contain unnecessary and/or useless footage (the random droid shots in the ROTS fight). Where the OT filmed in locations which looked real or alive, the PT forgets that and turns to computers to take away that soul and replace it with jaw-dropping, artificial pixels.
Little stuff for the casual viewer, but to the fans who return again and again, the little things we nitpick at (and can usually be forgiven like LOTR), start to build up. Jar Jar was cute at first, but 8 years and 35 "That smells stinkawhiffs" later, it's getting pretty f*cking irritating.
But it's all Lucas' doing, Lucas-approved, Lucas-directed, LucasArts on every Jar Jar Binks action figure.