Originally posted by Healing Artisan
i know enough about Jesus and the New Testament to be considered an Apostolic Orthodox Christian.unlike you, i dont take the Bible literally, and i dont post nonsense as you have done in the past (and you still are).
I didn't ask you what denomination you espouse and identify with, I simply want to know why you believe that you are saved from your sins and on your way to Heaven (or do you not believe this)?
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Originally posted by Healing Artisan
i know enough about Jesus and the New Testament to be considered an Apostolic Orthodox Christian.unlike you, i dont take the Bible literally, and i dont post nonsense as you have done in the past (and you still are).
Quite interesting, I'd like to see a debate/argument between someone like JIA who is insane, and someone such as yourself, who is a Christan but seems to be actually intelligent, despite the fact that you believe in God.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
So then by your own admission you are a [b]lying, fornicating, sodomite (i.e. a sinner). Apart from the Blood of Jesus Christ why should God let you into Heaven since you are obviously a lying, fornicating, sodomite (i.e. a sinner)? (Bear with me this is for illustrative purposes only I am not putting you down). [/B]
So because I lied, had sex outside of marriage, and the sex was anal, I deserve to be tormented for eternity ? 😕
Originally posted by JesusIsAlivei'm a decent human being with morals. no one is perfect, i've done bad in the past. i dont have to go to the church to ask for forgiveness. that's nonsense. God is God, and if he does exist he can forgive me for whatever i have done. i pray at nights just to wake up another morning and enjoy my life. that's all that matters. if you actually read what the Bible says (Qu'Ran, Zend Avesta, etc...), you'd understand that morality is all that matters. you don't have to do this, or you dont have to do that to get into 'heaven'.
I didn't ask you what denomination you espouse and identify with, I simply want to know why you believe that you are saved from your sins and on your way to Heaven (or do you not believe this)?😕
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Yes, according to the righteous, holy judgment of Almighty God (remember God is holy, thus He cannot allow sinners into Heaven).
How is it righteous to torture someone ?
Secondly, if people who sin cannot be allowed into Heaven, then how can people who have done good be allowed into Hell ?
Surely you do not imagine I have only done what you percieve as "bad", and never done anything kind, generous, or selfless ?
That is unequal and unjust. How can God be unjust ?
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
How is it righteous to torture someone ?Secondly, if people who sin cannot be allowed into Heaven, then how can people who have done good be allowed into Hell ?
Surely you do not imagine I have only done what you percieve as "bad", and never done anything kind, generous, or selfless ?
That is unequal and unjust. How can God be unjust ?
Originally posted by Borisi dont take my religion too seriously, but my faith i do.
Quite interesting, I'd like to see a debate/argument between someone like JIA who is insane, and someone such as yourself, who is a Christan but seems to be actually intelligent, despite the fact that you believe in God.
Originally posted by Healing Artisan
i'm a decent human being with morals. no one is perfect, i've done bad in the past. i dont have to go to the church to ask for forgiveness. that's nonsense. God is God, and if he does exist he can forgive me for whatever i have done. i pray at nights just to wake up another morning and enjoy my life. that's all that matters. if you actually read what the Bible (Qu'Ran, Zend Avesta, etc...), you'd understand that morality is all that matters. you don't have to do this, or you dont have to do that to get into 'heaven'.
That is precisely why I asked you. Healing Artisan, according to the Bible you are not born again; therefore, you are not saved and thus you are lost. Salvation from sin is a spiritual issue not a moral issue. Jesus Christ died to pay for our sins (i.e. the innate sin nature that we inherited from Adam and that we commit personally). Without the shed Blood of Christ you are still a sinner by nature and you must suffer the penalty of your sins. God can only forgive you for your sins if you ask Him to in His Son's Name. Jesus is the Mediator between God and humanity, so you must go to Jesus in order to get to the Father in Heaven. Have you asked Jesus Christ to save you from your sins?
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Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
That is precisely why I asked you. Healing Artisan, according to the Bible you are not born again; therefore, you are not saved and thus you are lost. Salvation from sin is a spiritual issue not a moral issue. Jesus Christ died to pay for our sins (i.e. the innate sin nature that we inherited from Adam and that we commit personally). Without the shed Blood of Christ you are still a sinner by nature and you must suffer the penalty of your sins. God can only forgive you for your sins if you ask Him to in His Son's Name. Jesus is the Mediator between God and humanity, so you must go to Jesus in order to get to the Father in Heaven. Have you asked Jesus Christ to save you from your sins?😕
So all you have to do is ask Jesus to forgive you and you enter Heaven ?