Wolverine vs. Wrecker

Started by Symmetric Chaos15 pages
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In a one on one single combat Wolverine isn't going to be "dizzy" from Spider-woman's pheromones and he won't be pulling his punches, purposely limiting the damage out put of his claws.

Are you refering to the pheremones that Wrecker was exposed to during the entire fight?

You do realize that when Wolvie laft he was outside the range and had some time to recover from any effect they might have had? A chance Wrecker never got.

So Wrecker was, by your logic, even more below his real power than Logan was.

Originally posted by Estacado
Seriously wolvie fanboys are getting really ridiculous....
This thread was made two years ago with about 6 people backing him up. It isn't exactly new.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are you refering to the pheremones that Wrecker was exposed to during the entire fight?

You do realize that when Wolvie laft he was outside the range and had some time to recover from any effect they might have had? A chance Wrecker never got.

So Wrecker was, by your logic, even more below his real power than Logan was.

None of the male characters, Wrecker included, where bringing their A game, but only Wolverine has superhuman senses, which would have made the effects of the pheromones much, much more intense.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
None of the male characters, Wrecker included, where bringing their A game, but only Wolverine has superhuman senses, which would have made the effects of the pheromones much, much more intense.

And his healing factor suddenly is useless against a threat?

nuts This must be rectified!

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And his healing factor suddenly is useless against a threat?

nuts This must be rectified!

Pheromones aren't really a threat though, just a chemical reaction in the brain that is triggered by a sent right?

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
And?
He landed three cheap shots, and wasn't able to put him down.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Apparently Wolverine does. If he was seriously trying to hurt/maim Dirk he wouldn't have landed inconsequential body shots when was attacking him from behind, now would he? He would have go for the head, maybe one of the major arteries on the legs.
Point is, he wasn't just distracting him.
He might have been wanting to put him down, but he definitely wasn't distracting him (on purpose).
Also, when they actually met face to face, Wolverine looked like he swung twice for the head...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He jumped (off the Quinjet) so that he could get the drop on Wrecker, not because he was trying to get more weight into his attack.
But, at the same time, he is throwing more weight into it.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Wrecker needed to be distracted to be webbed up effectively or, since the web line goes two ways, Dirk would have grabbed the web line and use it to sling shot Spider-man away.... like he did.
Or, he just can't be webbed up...
(Minus the part where he got stuck to the massive web)

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
*shrugs*

Wolverine thought that Spider-man's webbing had bought him a large enough opening to get a free shot off... it was a judgement error on Wolverine's part not some spectacular feet on Dirk's.

I've seen Wolverine jump like that before at enemies... that didn't have webbing in their eyes...

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
In a one on one single combat Wolverine isn't going to be "dizzy" from Spider-woman's pheromones and he won't be pulling his punches, purposely limiting the damage out put of his claws.
Where was it stated that she was affecting him there... better yet, why would Wolverine be on someone's team who constantly affects him? Also, it looked like the comic didn't focus too much on her natural abilities anyway.

He also looked like he was swinging pretty damn hard in those comics.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Pheromones aren't really a threat though, just a chemical reaction in the brain that is triggered by a sent right?

Yup. Which bring up another interesting point.

Sensitivity to smell shouldn't cause an increase in the effect of pheremones only the ppm for the pheremones.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Yup. Which bring up another interesting point.

Sensitivity to smell shouldn't cause an increase in the effect of pheromones only the ppm for the pheromones.

I'm not going to pretend how pheromones work, but Wolverine has shown to effected by the normal human pheromones on a much greater level then normal people. Not just sexual pheromones either, but aggression and territorial pheromones are one of the reason he is so violent and prone to berserker rages. Its one of the reasons he was used to get set off by people who were seemingly doing nothing threatening to him. I assumed it was do to his heightened senses... but maybe it is just because he is so feral and animistic... but that all comes back to heightened senses.

*shrugs*

Now I really can't wait for that X-Men vs Hulk battle...

Also, not relevant at all, but, has anyone else ever went rock climbing?
I went for the first time today, and wow, that's a workout on the forearms.

Originally posted by Jebus reborn
Now I really can't wait for that X-Men vs Hulk battle...

Also, not relevant at all, but, has anyone else ever went rock climbing?
I went for the first time today, and wow, that's a workout on the forearms.

No, but I've thought about doing it... 🙁

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
No, but I've thought about doing it... 🙁
I went twice, the first time I almost won, and the second time, I couldn't get past halfway.
It's harder than it looks.

You should definately do it.

I've ben rock climbing lotsa times.

but not as much since i climbed a faulty wall,and the rocks weren't attached probably.

damn big brother just let me drop....

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And his healing factor suddenly is useless against a threat?

nuts This must be rectified!

That's like saying the healing factor would keep him from getting horny. Pheromones aren't viewed as a threat.

In NA Luke was faster than Wolverine almost, that's just wrong. There is no way that Wrecker is fast enough to simply bat Wolverine away like that.

Does Wrecker still have access to all those other powers? Before he had other powers than just enhanced stamina and strength. If he uses his crowbar properly, then he can probably beat Wolverine relatively easy. If he just has his strength, then he shouldn't beat Wolverine more than 7/10

Originally posted by Martian_mind
I've ben rock climbing lotsa times.

but not as much since i climbed a faulty wall,and the rocks weren't attached probably.

damn big brother just let me drop....

Ya, but some people do it for fun, and not to escape dingos and kangaroos, and whatnot.

Dingos?Kangaroos?

dude,i wrestle with them for fun,it's the Koalas and Platypus you gottya watch out for...

....or even the FATAL WOMBAT...

Originally posted by Priest
Yeah how would u know?
It effected the wrecker the most because spidergirl was around him the whole time while the other Avengers was getting tossed around.
and the wrecker was still swatting wolverine like a rag doll.
Also i doubt that wolverine would be affected as much as the others in the fight, i mean he can stand Omega Red's pheromones imo.

Priest Im looking at the scans that your are putting up and it seems like you are trying to avoid the ones where wolverine slice wrecker across the back and take a huge chunk out of him and he slice him across the arms. Can you post that please.

Also; everytime that wrecker hit wolverine, wolverine bounced right back up. How can you consider that a lose when he wasnt doing any kind of damage to wolverine. Sabertooth has done worse. Wendigo has done worse. Thing has done worse. Hulk has done worse. And they all lost to wolverine.

Wolverine 7/10

Wrecker has access to telepathy and force fields and energy blasts as well, doesn't he?

These scans were provided by Priest.

Here ya go, enjoy
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-1.jpg
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-3.jpg
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-8.jpg
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-10.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-11.jpg
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-14.jpg
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http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-21.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-22.jpg
(the rest of the scans are from issue 8, the end of the wrecker fight)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-3.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-4.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-5.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-8.jpg

-Priest
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Originally posted by Faceman
These scans were provided by Priest.

Here ya go, enjoy
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-3.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-4.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-5.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-6.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-8.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers7-9.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-10.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-11.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-12.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-13.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-14.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-15.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-16.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-17.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-18.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-19.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-20.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-21.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...vengers7-22.jpg
(the rest of the scans are from issue 8, the end of the wrecker fight)
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-2.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-3.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-4.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-5.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l...Avengers8-8.jpg

-Priest
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They all say "Page Not Found"

... but I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread owns, or at the very least has read every issue if New Avengers anyway.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
They all say "Page Not Found"

... but I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread owns, or at the very least has read every issue if New Avengers anyway.

My bad, ill look into it... 😕