Can any MUTANT beat Superman????

Originally posted by BlueDMighty
I don't understand how SM's "speed blitz"/ "FTL" movement/acrobatics/agility/reaction Allow him to "punch a hole in Storm's face before she can think/react".

While at the same time allowing ROUGE to touch him?

And Magneto to "control" the iron in his blood?

Apoc and X-Man are alright.

But if Maggs and Rouge got a shot Storm is DEFINITELY in the building.

Originally posted by Hitman911
You have to be kidding me right!?!?!??!?!?!?

Who on that list wouldn't beat supes?

Originally posted by MONSTAR
Superman has never in his career biltz anyone at light speed because he cannot... You will never ever see a scan, bio or narration suggesting he can do it.. But on KMC he will be given this false ability without any proof whatsoever.. So i cannot name any mutants that can beat him because his many defenders will try and use his false speed blitz as a auto-win..Thus a debate can never take place because false info with no proof will be accepted by his supporters which donimates this place.

I don't think many people here thinks that he can fight at light speed. Its his hard knox fans that thinks this.

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think many people here thinks that he can fight at light speed. Its his hard knox fans that thinks this.

I believe he can and have just posted scans in the Superman respect thread that give it weight

Originally posted by paisapower
I believe he can and have just posted scans in the Superman respect thread that give it weight

What scan is this? Professor zoom?

Originally posted by carver9
What scan is this? Professor zoom?

No, check the last 2 pages out. I finally got a scanner so Ill be putting more

Originally posted by carver9
I don't think many people here thinks that he can fight at light speed. Its his hard knox fans that thinks this.

Originally posted by paisapower

I believe he can and have just posted scans in the Superman respect thread that give it weight.

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Originally posted by paisapower
No, check the last 2 pages out. I finally got a scanner so Ill be putting more

I looked... I didn't see anything showing light speed let alone half the speed of light. What feats are you talking about? Tagging flash like characters?

Originally posted by carver9
I looked... I didn't see anything showing light speed let alone half the speed of light. What feats are you talking about? Tagging flash like characters?

Go to the superman respect board and start with the last page working your way back

Originally posted by paisapower
Go to the superman respect board and start with the last page working your way back

That's where I looked, its not there. You have one scan of him fixing a ship... another one where he is moving around while the jla are fighting and saying that jay didn't even see him. Jay isn't a light speedster... he lost that ability a long time ago. He is barely breaking the sound barrier.

You have supes catching up to a blast that we have not type of indication on how fast it is going.

I didn't see anything. Tagging the flash? Everyone in dc has done this. Do you truly know what fighting at light speed mean? That means that you are moving your limbs "while in combat" at 186000 miles per second. Do you have those types of feats? Not him flying to catch a ray... him actually fighting at tremendous speeds ala flash.

Originally posted by carver9
That's where I looked, its not there. You have one scan of him fixing a ship... another one where he is moving around while the jla are fighting and saying that jay didn't even see him. Jay isn't a light speedster... he lost that ability a long time ago. He is barely breaking the sound barrier.

You have supes catching up to a blast that we have not type of indication on how fast it is going.

I didn't see anything. Tagging the flash? Everyone in dc has done this. Do you truly know what fighting at light speed mean? That means that you are moving your limbs "while in combat" at 186000 miles per second. Do you have those types of feats? Not him flying to catch a ray... him actually fighting at tremendous speeds ala flash.

You have got to be kidding me, your saying that none of these feats give u any indication of how fast he can move and thus blitz ?[/URL][/IMG]

Combat speed doesn't equal travel speed. Show us a quantifiable scan of Supes blitzing some speedster and then we'll talk.

Originally posted by paisapower
You have got to be kidding me, your saying that none of these feats give u any indication of how fast he can move and thus blitz ?[/URL][/IMG]

Superman is fast enough to hit a flash and zoom... I'm not doubting that. Green lantern has also tagged zoom, wonder woman, deathstroke has the best track record against any flash. The list goes on but even though these people have the ability to hit a cis flash and zoom (who has proven that they can move far faster than supes since he was a statue during one of their fights) does not hold any type of weight that he can fight at light speed.

Proteus
Jaspers
Braddock
Apocalypse
Savior Cable
X-Man
Cassandra Nova
Thanos
Franklin Richards
Rachel Grey
Jean Grey

etc.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Combat speed doesn't equal travel speed. Show us a quantifiable scan of Supes blitzing some speedster and then we'll talk.

So if a guy can run near light and was actually shown swimming in the page right before the one I scanned and still keeping up with a running flash, you cant see him punching and kicking with the same effort

Originally posted by carver9
Superman is fast enough to hit a flash and zoom... I'm not doubting that. Green lantern has also tagged zoom, wonder woman, deathstroke has the best track record against any flash. The list goes on but even though these people have the ability to hit a cis flash and zoom (who has proven that they can move far faster than supes since he was a statue during one of their fights) does not hold any type of weight that he can fight at light speed.

Hes running at light speed right in this scan and its still not to your liking,

Originally posted by paisapower
So if a guy can run near light and was actually shown swimming in the page right before the one I scanned and still keeping up with a running flash, you cant see him punching and kicking with the same effert

Where did it say in that scan that they were running at light speed?

Originally posted by carver9
Where did it say in that scan that they were running at light speed?

186,000 mps is right there

Originally posted by carver9
Where did it say in that scan that they were running at light speed?

Now I see why the scans I posted in the respect thread werent good enough for u, you just looked at the pics but didnt read the text

Originally posted by paisapower
Now I see why the scans I posted in the respect thread werent good enough for u, you just looked at the pics but didnt read the text

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