Can any MUTANT beat Superman????

Started by llagrok58 pages

X is right I'm afraid. Rachel mind blasted Xavier when she first arrived it seems.

Though, most telepaths have impressive mental barriers up, otherwise they're simply retarded. Check out Apocalypse's respect thread for more Telepathic feats.

Speed of thought > Superman

The Collective
Magneto
House of M Wanda
Quicksilver"time travel"
Vulcan/Darwin

Beyonder...

Originally posted by llagrok
Speed of thought > Superman

Only in metaphysics.

Originally posted by Martian_mind
Beyonder...

I know I listed him before as well, but technically he's just not a mutant. He's an inhuman/hybrid bad ass.

Originally posted by llagrok
X is right I'm afraid. Rachel mind blasted Xavier when she first arrived it seems.

Though, most telepaths have impressive mental barriers up, otherwise they're simply retarded. Check out Apocalypse's respect thread for more Telepathic feats.

Speed of thought > Superman

I don't particularly trust respect threads, (ironic since I have a few, I know) people are inclined to omit context.

E.g. somewhere in there it probably says Apocalypse was consciously telepathically controlling the Inhumans (somewhere in X-Factor v1) - since TricksterPriest has posted this as one of Apocalypse's telepathic feats before. He didn't - he brainwashed them.

Speed of thought as in the speed of telepathy or telekinesis? They are stated as being speed of light, thought and action as one etc. and must be quantum processes to occur across galaxies etc.

Speed of thought as in thought processing latency? No.

Apocalypse has displayed the ability to read minds as well.

Xavier has been doing that since he was a teenager... 😬

...and psiblasted Cassandra Nova in utero...

Doesn't mean that it's not a proof of being a telepath, which we're trying to prove.

I thought you were trying to show a telepathic superiority to Xavier...

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I thought you were trying to show a telepathic superiority to Xavier...

No, one feat isn't enough for me.

However, instantly killing someone with telepathy is a pretty basic feat. Same for incapacitating them.

Superman has relatively high resistance to telepathy iirc, and the latency of his movement is less than the latency of Apocalypse's thought processing to initiate telepathy.

I don't think so 🙂

Meh.

Originally posted by Soljer
It takes light approximately eight minutes to get from the Sun to the Earth.

Eight minutes.

Superman flew darkseid from the Earth to the sun in a couple panels.
http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanvsdarkseid6lg1.jpg

It takes light something like a friggin hour to make it to the moons of saturn.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=5772411

Flies at lightspeed in a black hole:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7672836
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=7672837

Flies across galaxies:
http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanv2204p016bq2.jpg
http://img47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=supermanv2204p01718ap6.jpg

"Superman can race a speeding photon to it's target"
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Superman/SupesracingPhoton.jpg

In Superman #153, a trip from Saturn to the sun (27 light minutes) and back again (for a total of 54 light minutes) was completed in seconds by the Man of Steel. This works out to about 3000 times the speed of light.

In War of the Gods #4: Superman out-raced an energy beam to its target.

In Man of Steel #134, Superman outraced an energy blast from the Aegis armor.

Punches the ***** at faster than light speeds:
http://img279.imageshack.us/my.php?image=angrysupes8ju.jpg

Speed of thought

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Meh.
You read Countdown? In a couple of panels, he heard Jimmy's watch beep, and came from Vega back to Earth. 25 lightyears, in a couple moments.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I thought you were trying to show a telepathic superiority to Xavier...

One feat may not be enough, but he did that to Xavier himself, and he did like it was nothing, mind blasting him.

Also a weakened Apocalypse punks Jean Grey psionically. In her own words, she was throwing everything at him, trying to chisle into his mind.

Xavier has far more telepathic feats, but that still doesn't change the fact that in toe-to-toe, he couldn't do anything, only to get punked.

I'll reiterate:
1) A single feat can basically amount to SvFL.
2) There's no conclusiveness as to whether it was even telepathy.
3) Xavier wasn't even rendered unconscious. It wasn't a "toe-to-toe" telepathic fight, it was one possibly telepathic sucker punch.
and...
4) And? How exactly does that show superior telepathic power or skill to Xavier. Telepaths are not automatically immune to any and all forms telepathy. Telepaths do constantly screen out thoughts with their powers, but they do not constantly defend.

Originally posted by ExodusCloak
[b]Emma and X-Man
After Psylocke botched up with the Shadow King every Psi on the planet lost their powers. (Including Emma and X-Man.)
Emma eventually realized that she got hers back, Nate had his back but he didn't realize it till later on. He even unknowingly demonstrates some telepathy in this issue which Emma points out.
[/B]
Ergo, Emma is > than Nate Grey? Because she telepathically sucker punched him?

I've seen the Jean incident. It shows mental defenses, not actual telepathy. His on panel dialogue indicate as such.
So upon what basis exactly does one derive that Apocalypse is a better telepath in either power or skill? Unwarranted hype? 313

Originally posted by vacilonero
i think there are a few mutants out there that can beat superman ..wolverine would kill superman .superman is the man of steel and wolverine is the man of adementium ....the profesor can give superman a mindblast or just read his mind till he finds his weakness.. 💃
😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
So I guess that means you're agreeing with the last line of his post that Storm CAN'T beat Silver Surfer, yes? Oh, the irony...

No,

I agree that she'd get some wins off Supes.

I also already said she can't beat Surfer, she can just easily hurt him and Stardust.