Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Really ?That makes a [b]lot
of sense now....so its family lineage....I am assuming that since this family has always served God, that Mary would have been the perfect candidate for such an event.
I also heard that at one time, the power of the feminine was quite prevelant over the eras of Christianity, but over time, men in power feared the influence that the feminine would have on the social structure....
So stories and testiments by Mary Magdeline were revoked, and her position and role in the life of Christ was lessened.
If you really take a look at the life of Christ, (atleast from every possible document we have), Mary Magdeline had an enormous role in his life, and with his teachings.
Yet, they give greater credit to the Apostles, most of whom even denied and doubted him, one who even betrayed him.
yet, Mary Magdeline, never doubted Christ (according to the testiments), she witnessed the disappearance of his body, and his rebirth, and the Apostles did not even beleive her when she told them Christ came back. [/B]
However, I don't believe that Mary (the mother of Jesus) was a direct descendant of David. Anyone who was a direct descendant of David would have been rich and part of the royal family, and Mary and Jesus were poor.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
However, I don't believe that Mary (the mother of Jesus) was a direct descendant of David. Anyone who was a direct descendant of David would have been rich and part of the royal family, and Mary and Jesus were poor.
Not necessarily...there are plenty of poor people who are descent from the rich, and vise versa.
The House of David could have lost power by then, or Mary could have been abandoned by greedy relatives.
Perhaps, she was the only genuine/good relative, thus making her free from original sin.
you know how it goes....power corrupts...even between family members....Mary could have had rich relatives who didnt care about her, she may have not even been aware of it.
In fact, my grandmother grew up rich in Peru, but when she came to the United States, her family lost thier wealth, and my mother had to start from scatch
Originally posted by Goddess Kali
Not necessarily...there are plenty of poor people who are descent from the rich, and vise versa.The House of David could have lost power by then, or Mary could have been abandoned by greedy relatives.
Perhaps, she was the only genuine/good relative, thus making her free from original sin.
you know how it goes....power corrupts...even between family members....Mary could have had rich relatives who didnt care about her, she may have not even been aware of it.
In fact, my grandmother grew up rich in Peru, but when she came to the United States, her family lost thier wealth, and my mother had to start from scatch
However, there is a very good chance that David himself was a myth. There is no record of king Dave other then the bible.
The doctrine of the Immaculate Conception has not gone uncontested. It was the source of great controversy among medieval theologians. There would be no biblical support or scriptural basis for the Immaculate Conception. Scriptures such as angel Gabriel' s greeting to Mary merely serve as corroborative evidence assuming that the dogma is already well established. There is insufficient evidence to prove the dogma to someone basing their beliefs solely on biblical interpretation.
Originally posted by Storm
In traditional Christian theology, sexual intercourse is believed to be the means by which the original sin of Adam is transmitted from human to human. Conception without sex means existence without sin.The tradition that Jesus was born of a virgin is traced back to a supposed prophecy in Isaiah. As debbiejo briefly addressed, the term "virgin" appears in the Greek translation but the original Hebrew word, ha-almah, means "young woman" while it was translated into Greek with the word parthenos, which means virgin.
The Hebrew word for that, if that is what the author had meant to say, would have been bethulah. The phrase in which it appears, ha-alma hara, means "the young woman is pregnant".
Isaiah 7:14
Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel [i.e. God with us].
The Hebrew word betulah means a woman of marriageable age who may or may not be a virgin.
But the word translated virgin in Isaiah 7:14 is the Hebrew word alma or almah. It means a girl or young woman, whether of marriageable age or not, who is a virgin. In other words, the Hebrew word almah absolutely denotes that the girl or young woman is a virgin whereas the Hebrew word betulah does not. The word betulah describes a woman of marriageable age who is usually but not necessarily chaste (i.e. a virgin).
Futhermore, Matthew quotes Isaiah's prophecy in the Book of Matthew 1:23 showing it to be a fulfillment of prophecy and a direct reference to Mary the earthly mother of Jesus (remember: all Scripture is given by inspiration of God i.e. God-breathed). So, God through His prophet Isaiah foretold of Mary's virgin conception and, and through His apostle Matthew confirmed the fulfillment of that prophecy in Mary and Jesus.
Matthew 1:18
18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was as follows: After His mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Spirit. 19 Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not wanting to make her a public example, was minded to put her away secretly. 20 But while he thought about these things, behold, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream, saying, “Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take to you Mary your wife, for that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit. 21 And she will bring forth a Son, and you shall call His name JESUS, for He will save His people from their sins.”
22 So all this was done that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the Lord through the prophet, saying: 23 “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”
24 Then Joseph, being aroused from sleep, did as the angel of the Lord commanded him and took to him his wife, 25 and did not know her till she had brought forth her firstborn Son. And he called His name JESUS.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
There are some people who believe that Buddha was born of a virgin, and that was 500 years before Jesus was born.
There are some people who also believe in green dragons, that does not make them real.
velho
shock(I just saw a green dragon).
😂
No, seriously Buddah was not divine nor was he born of a virgin. But Jesus is the Son of God; therefore, He is divine and He was born of a virgin according to the Word of the living God.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There are some people who also believe in green dragons, that does not make them real.velho
shock(I just saw a green dragon).
😂
No, seriously Buddah was not divine nor was he born of a virgin. But Jesus is the Son of God; [B]therefore
, He is divine and He was born of a virgin according to the Word of the living God. [/B]
I don't believe that Buddha was divine or born of a virgin, but many did and still do. My point is that the idea of a man-god virgin birth was common at the time of the birth of Jesus. I believe his followers used that common idea to boaster the young religion after the death of Jesus.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't believe that Buddha was divine or born of a virgin, but many did and still do. My point is that the idea of a man-god virgin birth was common at the time of the birth of Jesus. I believe his followers used that common idea to boaster the young religion after the death of Jesus.
And I believe that Jesus was truly divine and born of a virgin. I believe that Jesus had to be born of a virgin so that He could come into the human race without inheriting Adam's sin nature. If He had, then we would all be lost. There would have been no other sinless Person who could have died for our sins.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
And I believe that Jesus was truly divine and born of a virgin. I believe that Jesus had to be born of a virgin so that He could come into the human race without inheriting Adam's sin nature. If He had, then we would all be lost. There would have been no other sinless Person who could have died for our sins.
And many people believe that Buddha was divine and born of a virgin. We have covered this already.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
And many people believe that Buddha was divine and born of a virgin. We have covered this already.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
There are some people who also believe in green dragons, that does not make them real.velho
shock(I just saw a green dragon).
😂
No, seriously Buddah was not divine nor was he born of a virgin. But Jesus is the Son of God; therefore, He is divine and He was born of a virgin according to the Word of the living God.