Mace Windu (ROTS) vs Darth Vader (ANH)

Started by IOU3 pages
Well lets see the novel did say he lashed out with his full hatred

that doesnt necessarily mean that he would have used his full power, hatred could have been used for many different uses: killing mace instantly, making mace pay by feeling the pain. striking at mace with his full hatred does not imply that he was using all of his power, bottom line

and again even if mace already had his arm cut off. Why wouldn't he still want to actually kill mace windu? Even small threats no matter how not dangerous is still considered an enemy, Sidious would still kill him which is what he was trying to do

bcos there was no necessity to, mace was in no way a threat at that point, there was nothing he could do without a hand and while being electrocuted, so its ridiculous to assume that he would go full out against mace simply because he was somewhat a threat to the smallest degree.

It requires power as well.

prove it! prove that it doesnt simply require some pretty obscure knowledge

Not just skill alone and who cares if they had a resistence or not?

clearly not you as u cant seem to accept that someone with a stronger fortitude would have a greater resistance to lightning

The lightning clearly charred them to bones at the moment of impact and when advent says something shes right for example when i talked about sidious killing those 3 acolytes she has stated that he indeed did grow more powerful in the force

is this some twisted form of appeal to authority or something? 😆

I back this one down

back it down b1tch

And despite mace being "not a threat" after getting his arm hacked off would be concious enough to even put a defence up or attempt to resist which he didnt?.

clearly you missed the bit where he raised his remaining hand to attempt to block it

Thats like saying lukes emerald lightning which is insta kill wont work against jedi but on vong since they have no defence to that

and that would be a perfectly valid point

Actually it isnt twisted because what i just typed has been backed up by various sources. You attempted to use my logic against me which didnt work because i clearly stated with proof that sidious wasnt trying to kill luke until the last minute. You fail again

omfg i feel like im talking to a retard here

1. in my example, i failed to establish that sidious was unleashing all his power, just like you did in yours

2. in my example, i ignored the force defence of those involved, just like you did with yours

thats called using your own twisted logic against you dipsh1t

Thats true but commen sense has

except you havent proven how 'commen sense has'

sexy has finished this for me

he didnt even reply to this point fool

No reason to lie and prove sidious wasnt truthful. To teleport some one from the other side of the galaxy to byss proves your strength in the force

prove that it was an increase in power, and not just some improved knowledge that enabled him to do that, and establish how such a feat is beyond what pt sidious could do. good luck

Lets see. Luke did grow stronger in the force and that indication is the feats he performed and the attacks he unleashed. The same thing which indicates it for sidious. Get my point? Doubtful

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Lol it has, and as sexy said you have yet to argue anything backed up my a omniscient narrator

refer to my maul analogy dipsh1t

Oh and noobaris i would have finished you in the sylar vs sidious thread the paragraph about shadow cat if it wasnt closed because about that part you are 100% wrong. You know jack about marvel and you went to make a baseless assumption

yeah, more like you just assumed that i dont read the marvel comics and thought you could just make sh1t up. even if that were the case, your comparisons between heroes and marvel is 100% fallacious as marvel is not only as inconsistent as it comes but it constantly defies science, whereas heroes keeps in line with it as well as it can

not to mention the fact that i do read the comics, and u were talking bs
fact is, shadowcat was in no way phased when phoenix TK fvcked her, as its pretty much impossible, its even listed in the most recent marvel encyclopedia as something which makes you immune to TK, so please, stop talking out of your ass.

Originally posted by IOU
that doesnt necessarily mean that he would have used his full power, hatred could have been used for many different uses: killing mace instantly, making mace pay by feeling the pain. striking at mace with his full hatred does not imply that he was using all of his power, bottom line
Again why wouldnt sidious lash out with his full power as he was wanting to kill mace all along? Thats the bottom line but guess what. This isnt the point as i was referring to the fact sidious grew stronger as time went by

Originally posted by IOU

bcos there was no necessity to, mace was in no way a threat at that point, there was nothing he could do without a hand and while being electrocuted, so its ridiculous to assume that he would go full out against mace simply because he was somewhat a threat to the smallest degree.
No necessity too? Lets see n00baris. If this guy was my enemy and i already hacked off his arms and he is by no means a threat and if i were to kill him with a gun. Guess what. Id shoot him on the head. Despite having his arms cut off its actually easier to kill him. The same thing goes with mace windu. Because if mace wasnt a threat after getting hacked there wouldnt even be a need to shock him in the first place. Oh yes and if you actually observe the scene you can see mace skeleton which indicates he is using great amount of powerrs to lash out at him simply because the same thing happened to vader when sidious struck him down and the same exact thing happened to the 3 acolytes but when he force lightning luke and kadir. The lightning wasnt powerful enough as we could not see their skeletons

Originally posted by IOU

prove it! prove that it doesnt simply require some pretty obscure knowledge

3 things. Skill. power and knowledge. Because of its knowledge alone. Lumiya could have done it a weakling compared to the top sith dogs. Vader could have done it, Dooku could have done it and that idiot tavion with just knowledge alone could raise ragnos without the use of the scepter. Your point is moot

Originally posted by IOU

clearly not you as u cant seem to accept that someone with a stronger fortitude would have a greater resistance to lightning
Not if mace was "no threat" or "little threat" after getting his arm hacked off

Originally posted by IOU

is this some twisted form of appeal to authority or something? 😆
Nope, its actually crushing the pathetic attempt you did to downplay sidious claiming that he couldnt kill luke when he was using lightning

Originally posted by IOU

back it down b1tch
Sure i have.

Originally posted by IOU

clearly you missed the bit where he raised his remaining hand to attempt to block it
Hmm so when jaden was about to kill rosh with a lightsaber, He sticks his hand out. He trying to defend against a saber strike? Lol

Originally posted by IOU

and that would be a perfectly valid point
It wouldnt seeing luke as the one above all in star wars

Originally posted by IOU

omfg i feel like im talking to a retard here
Um your the retard actually. What wonders me is you always get banned and yet you come back actually dying to get humuliated. Go on dickbaris it is rather amusing reading your "rebutals"
Originally posted by IOU

1. in my example, i failed to establish that sidious was unleashing all his power, just like you did in yours
I already have. While i can say the samething that you couldnt establish that sidious wasnt using his full power
Originally posted by IOU

2. in my example, i ignored the force defence of those involved, just like you did with yours
Force defence or force resistence? Obviously mace was in shock not expecting anakin to turn on him thus limiting his focus and dont forget the pain. And resistence? A slight one possibly because no jedi has high resistence to force attacks if not yoda wouldnt even need to dissipate sidious lightning
Originally posted by IOU

thats called using your own twisted logic against you dipsh1t
My logic isnt twisted unlike yours sadly

Originally posted by IOU

except you havent proven how 'commen sense has'
Thats because you don't have common sense. If sidious was really at his peak in ROTS he would have killed yoda with little problem at all

Originally posted by IOU

he didnt even reply to this point fool
He did. Please turn back one page and actually pay attention

Originally posted by IOU

prove that it was an increase in power, and not just some improved knowledge that enabled him to do that, and establish how such a feat is beyond what pt sidious could do. good luck
What use is having knowledge if you dont have the power to unleash it? Common sense eluding you again? Kreia has a shit load of knowledge she learnt from malachor yet she couldnt do the things sidious did

Originally posted by IOU

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Originally posted by IOU

refer to my maul analogy dipsh1t
I had and i can simply counter it. Fisto trained less than luke and had less knowledge than luke yet he reached his full potential during the clone wars while luke still hasnt during DE and NJO

Originally posted by IOU

yeah, more like you just assumed that i dont read the marvel comics and thought you could just make sh1t up. even if that were the case, your comparisons between heroes and marvel is 100% fallacious as marvel is not only as inconsistent as it comes but it constantly defies science, whereas heroes keeps in line with it as well as it can
Lol heroes keeping in line with science? Doubtful. While sylar is pretty amazing to me when he could move as super sonic speeds. Its ironic when he stops there is no inertia
Originally posted by IOU

not to mention the fact that i do read the comics, and u were talking bs
fact is, shadowcat was in no way phased when phoenix TK fvcked her, as its pretty much impossible, its even listed in the most recent marvel encyclopedia as something which makes you immune to TK, so please, stop talking out of your ass.

Um no phasing makes you immune to physical solid matter and TK is also manipulating atoms(referring to non force based tk) so it wouldnt matter if you did phase or not because some one with high tk levels (sylar, silver surfer, galactus , celestials, phoenix of the white crown) would still be able to manipulate the atoms and tear anybody apart who has phased

Now let me address these few points

Originally posted by IOU

and thought you could just make sh1t up
The fact is i was
Originally posted by IOU
fact is, shadowcat was in no way phased when phoenix TK fvcked her
And whats funny here is you actually believed what i said. Firstly like i said i made this up and if phoneix were to actually dick around with shadow cat, SC would get annihilated seeing that WCP has enough power to destroy entire cosmos and at the same time omega level TK.

Also lets not forget SC got fu*ked when she got hit with an energy blast by harpoon despite her being phased and marvel sources stated sorcery and energy based attacks can counter the phasing ability as well as the comics

Originally posted by IOU

not to mention the fact that i do read the comics, and u were talking bs
I indeed was and your doing 3 things and ill list them in order

1.) You claimed i made something up
2) You then said you actually read the comics
3) And then you actually took what i said for real. That phoenix did dick around with SC which obviously never happened

^. proves you indeed are a dumbass

1) Mace

2) Mace (pretty close fight though)

3) Mace

Originally posted by Darth_noodle
1) Mace

2) Mace (pretty close fight though)

3) Mace

LOL your a fu(king idiot, prove that mace would overpower and kill vader easily, seeing that it has beein argued by gideon that it his highly possible vader can beat mace in a force duel

Why did you resurrect 2 vader vs mace threads?

Originally posted by GahLakTus
LOL your a fu(king idiot, prove that mace would overpower and kill vader easily, seeing that it has beein argued by gideon that it his highly possible vader can beat mace in a force duel

First of all, why is it that everytime you disagree with someone, you have to curse them out or call them an idiot/tell them to shut up?
What does your mom do to you at home?

Second of all, Mace is clearly the better swordsman, and Vader is a crippled BBQ'd half robot with not much force power left. Its really funny how your so closed minded and in love with darth vader, and you spend your life defending him on the forums, in the mean time your not even willing to listen to other peoples opinions on things.

Third of all, get a life, and stop insulting people.

Originally posted by Darth_noodle
First of all, why is it that everytime you disagree with someone, you have to curse them out or call them an idiot/tell them to shut up?
Because you brought back 2 threads of the same name.

Originally posted by Darth_noodle

What does your mom do to you at home?
No, the real question is DO YOU have a mom and dad? Or are they dead because they commited suicide because of the child they have which in this case is you?

Originally posted by Darth_noodle

Second of all, Mace is clearly the better swordsman, and Vader is a crippled BBQ'd half robot with not much force power left. Its really funny how your so closed minded and in love with darth vader, and you spend your life defending him on the forums, in the mean time your not even willing to listen to other peoples opinions on things.
LOL did i ever argue vader is a better swordsman? I only said vader could contend with him in the force because he would get owned in saber combat due to vaapad.

Funny you tell people to get an education but you yourself can't read.

Originally posted by Darth_noodle

Third of all, get a life, and stop insulting people.
Look at the other thread

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Because you brought back 2 threads of the same name.

No, the real question is DO YOU have a mom and dad? Or are they dead because they commited suicide because of the child they have which in this case is you?

LOL did i ever argue vader is a better swordsman? I only said vader could contend with him in the force because he would get owned in saber combat due to vaapad.

Funny you tell people to get an education but you yourself can't read.

Look at the other thread

Now now little GahLakTus, just because you killed your parents due to failing school does not mean you must get your anger out on others. I think its past your bed time.

Originally posted by Darth_noodle
Now now little GahLakTus, just because you killed your parents due to failing school does not mean you must get your anger out on others. I think its past your bed time.
Lol is that the best comeback you got?

If i actually did killed my parents i would have gotten a life sentence and thus i would have been jailed according to the law.

Wow your so stupid you don't even release there are laws which are against murder.

I have NEVER seen anybody so stupid in my life.

Originally posted by GahLakTus
Lol is that the best comeback you got?

If i actually did killed my parents i would have gotten a life sentence and thus i would have been jailed according to the law.

Wow your so stupid you don't even release there are laws which are against murder.

I have NEVER seen anybody so stupid in my life.

You have NEVER seen anybody so stupid in your life? try looking in the mirror, dumbass.

Originally posted by Darth_noodle
You have NEVER seen anybody so stupid in your life? try looking in the mirror, dumbass.
I don't have to look in a mirror when im looking some one such as you, who has shown stupidity to such a level that even animals surpass him in sheer intelligence.

Wow you have a negative IQ

There're two "mace vs vader" threads?

Yes because darth dick head aka n00dle brought badk 2 mace vs vader threads

In what ways is your body mascular? Bottom half or top?

Id say the top since its the only part i worked on, oh and its muscular