The Almighty STORM Runs the Guntlet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But you can cherry pick one instance where Magneto's shield is broken by a feeble wind and then use it as basis of his forcefield's durability, despite that there are far more superior feats of his forcefield around?

Or cherry pick one outdated instance (not even stated in a comic book) where writer states that Storm is equal to WEAKENED Phoenix incarnation and even then Phoenix is technically more powerful, and use it as basis that Storm is equal to the Phoenix Force?

Or ignore every single flight speed feat Prince Namor has done and basing it on his handbook bio?

Ignore all the times that show Magneto (and Polaris too, a Magneto-lite) manipulating the iron in numerous beings blood, INCLUDING Storm, and still claim that he can't do so, despite ALL comic evidence proving otherwise?

Ignoring all the evidence that shows telekinesis/telepathy happening INSTANTLY, faster then Storm's lightning, moving at speed that is faster then light, and still claim that Storm can strike Jean Grey faster then Jean Grey can strike Storm?

Ignoring every single speed/reaction/power/telepathy feat of Martian Manhunter and claiming that Storm can still defeat him?

Claiming that Chris Claremont is the highest authority as far as Storm is concerned, then, when being shown all the times Claremont has written Magneto to be FAR superior to Storm in battle, conveniently ignoring them?

Ignoring that Wonder Woman has completely impenetrable forcefield that has taken attacks from gods, and still claiming that attacks from Storm can hurt her?

Claiming that Storm is one of the most powerful people around, and the limiting her opponents in 90% of the forum battles you put her into?

Ignoring that Iceman is capable of freezing molecules in split second, and still claim that Storm is able to separate his molecules faster them Iceman is able to make one thought?

Hey, the Oxford English Dictionary called. They asked if they can use your picture in their next edition when defining the word [b]"hypocrite". [/B]

Defeated.

Originally posted by What If...
Sorry, ass, but once again you are using a double standard.

While your definition is correct, most people consider PIS to be a one time feat/display of power used specifically for the story at the moment.

Ex: Black Panther armbar. It's obvious the new Fantastic Four doesn't have the power to take down Silver Surfer, so the writer throws in a pinch of PIS as a solution to the hero's dilemma.

EX: Galatic core. Due to Storm's feeble body, she had no way to get rid of the brood. Marvel couldn't have Storm die on them, so they add in a PIS moment to save the day. End.

What about in the following issue where she stuned the brood ship using celestial energy and when she fisrt went into space and controled the Solar winds?? Or what about when she created a cosmic green house affect using gamma radiation to block out Solar radiation??

What about when Rogue absorbed her powers and she saw the very SUN as a pattern of energy.

She can control ALL things related weather to phenomena that's why she can control the core, Gamma, and the Solar Winds( go read a ****ing book and you'll se why).

She can also make windsas fast as she wants.😬

Kill yourself. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by 2damnloud
What about in the following issue where she stuned the brood ship using celestial energy and when she fisrt went into space and controled the Solar winds?? Or what about when she created a cosmic green house affect using gamma radiation to block out Solar radiation??

What about when Rogue absorbed her powers and she saw the very SUN as a pattern of energy.

She can control ALL things related weather to phenomena that's why she can control the core, Gamma, and the Solar Winds( go read a ****ing book and you'll se why).

She can also make windsas fast as she wants.😬

Kill yourself. 😮‍💨

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
But you can cherry pick one instance where Magneto's shield is broken by a feeble wind and then use it as basis of his forcefield's durability, despite that there are far more superior feats of his forcefield around?

When has this happened?

The reason that you think that the wind was "feable" is the reason you can't discuss anything with maturity.

God only knows HOW STRONG the winds was. Accept it.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Or cherry pick one outdated instance (not even stated in a comic book) where writer states that Storm is equal to WEAKENED Phoenix incarnation and even then Phoenix is technically more powerful, and use it as basis that Storm is equal to the Phoenix Force?

It wasn't "a writer", it was the CREATOR of both characters.

Until I get confirmation from him, it's still up in the air.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Or ignore every single flight speed feat Prince Namor has done and basing it on his handbook bio?

I never ignored it, I just reverse people's own tactics. It's still not faster than Stom can fly. 😎 Like seriously.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Ignore all the times that show Magneto (and Polaris too, a Magneto-lite) manipulating the iron in numerous beings blood, INCLUDING Storm, and still claim that he can't do so, despite ALL comic evidence proving otherwise?

shocklaugh@ "all the times"

He only did that rip once, and the other time he did it, it was shown being able to be absorbed.

I'm still waiting on number for polaris.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Ignoring all the evidence that shows telekinesis/telepathy happening INSTANTLY, faster then Storm's lightning, moving at speed that is faster then light, and still claim that Storm can strike Jean Grey faster then Jean Grey can strike Storm?

When was this presented?? 😆

There are also tons of instances where Storm's powers work "instanty". But, real world meteorolgy states otherwise so, she can't. 😕 🙄

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Ignoring every single speed/reaction/power/telepathy feat of Martian Manhunter and claiming that Storm can still defeat him?

The same can be said about Storm. MM is NOT lightspeed. He's Mach something or other. His speed wouldn't matter.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Claiming that Chris Claremont is the highest authority as far as Storm is concerned, then, when being shown all the times Claremont has written Magneto to be FAR superior to Storm in battle, conveniently ignoring them?

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He is infact a primary authority since he wrote well over 20 years of her 30 year career.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Ignoring that Wonder Woman has completely impenetrable forcefield that has taken attacks from gods, and still claiming that attacks from Storm can hurt her?

😆 "Gods" being taken seriously in the comicbook context. She owned WW already, KMC notwithstanding.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Claiming that Storm is one of the most powerful people around, and the limiting her opponents in 90% of the forum battles you put her into?

When did this happen?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Ignoring that Iceman is capable of freezing molecules in split second, and still claim that Storm is able to separate his molecules faster them Iceman is able to make one thought?

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She doesnt really have to do it like that. It would happen in tadem-- Fight starts, Lightning would instantly vaporize him, the high heat turns him into plasma😐

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Hey, the Oxford English Dictionary called. They asked if they can use your picture in their next edition when defining the word [b]"hypocrite". [/B]

😘 @ corny-ass jokes.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
She can't make it as fast as she wants she can only make it as fast as the atmosphere can support. She suddenly can't have winds going at half lightspeed.

*Here's where the shit start*

*sigh*

And why couldn't she?

well has she ever created any winds even close to lightspeed?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
When has this happened?

The reason that you think that the wind was "feable" is the reason you can't discuss anything with maturity.

God only knows HOW STRONG the winds was. Accept it.

It wasn't "a writer", it was the CREATOR of both characters.

Until I get confirmation from him, it's still up in the air.

I never ignored it, I just reverse people's own tactics. It's still not faster than Stom can fly. 😎 Like seriously.

shocklaugh@ "all the times"

He only did that rip once, and the other time he did it, it was shown being able to be absorbed.

I'm still waiting on number for polaris.

When was this presented?? 😆

There are also tons of instances where Storm's powers work "instanty". But, real world meteorolgy states otherwise so, she can't. 😕 🙄

The same can be said about Storm. MM is NOT lightspeed. He's Mach something or other. His speed wouldn't matter.

He is infact a primary authority since he wrote well over 20 years of her 30 year career.

😆 "Gods" being taken seriously in the comicbook context. She owned WW already, KMC notwithstanding.

When did this happen?

She doesnt really have to do it like that. It would happen in tadem-- Fight starts, Lightning would instantly vaporize him, the high heat turns him into plasma😐

😘 @ corny-ass jokes.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
well has she ever created any winds even close to lightspeed?

Who said anything about lightspeed winds?? 😆

Originally posted by Superherovandal
oh so now your gonna use a fanvoted comic as evidence. You really are desperate. And WW has taken Zeus' lightning which is eons above Storms in power.

Storm >>> Zeus 313

Oh yeah i forgot she's surpassing Galactus cause she has 2damnloud fanboy powers. How could I be so stupid?

shocklaugh@DarckCrawler's "logical deduction" in that Magneto Blood rip thread.

Don't tell me anything anymore about Storm.😆

Originally posted by 2damnloud
Who said anything about lightspeed winds?? 😆

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Well when i said couldn't you asked why she couldn't. So you kinda did.

No, it was in reference to her making them as fast as she likes.

She can make them pretty fast but not so fast that they affect the integrity of the atmosphere is all that i'm saying.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
When has this happened?

The reason that you think that the wind was "feable" is the reason you can't discuss anything with maturity.

God only knows HOW STRONG the winds was. Accept it.

Because they didn't rip apart the entire building or the flesh from Magneto's face away, or tear any of his clothes, we can only assume that they weren't very powerful.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
It wasn't "a writer", it was the CREATOR of both characters.

Until I get confirmation from him, it's still up in the air.

And he clearly states in that interview that Phoenix has a higher peak, and Storm can equal her because she can't maintain that peak for long. Thus, weakened Phoenix.

Don't know why this can't get through your thick head. Claremont, at no point, has stated that she is equal to the Phoenix Force without limits.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
I never ignored it, I just reverse people's own tactics. It's still not faster than Stom can fly. 😎 Like seriously.

It actually is, and it certainly is faster then she can react to.

You know HUMAN reactions and all. She isn't dodging something that comes at her at escape velocity. 😱

Do you even have actual proof of Storm flying faster then Mach 1?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
shocklaugh@ "all the times"

He only did that rip once, and the other time he did it, it was shown being able to be absorbed.

I'm still waiting on number for polaris.

I'm not referring into any freaking rips. I am referring into the instance where Storm VERY CLEARLY states that Magneto is able to stop her from using her powers, and Magneto does so.
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5360/magholdseveryxmeninplacob5.jpg

Originally posted by 2damnloud
When was this presented?? 😆

There are also tons of instances where Storm's powers work "instanty". But, real world meteorolgy states otherwise so, she can't. 😕 🙄

Storm's powers work as fast after a thought. TP/TK works together with a thought.

And the picture of psionics working faster then lightspeed was shown in the thread where this was debated...you know, with Polaris doing it at light speed, and Xavier contacting Lilandra from the other end of a galaxy...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
The same can be said about Storm. MM is NOT lightspeed. He's Mach something or other. His speed wouldn't matter.

MM is easily past Mach speeds. He can hit Mach 11 in a second, he can keep up with the freaking FLASH.

Hell, Mach ONE would be too fast for Storms HUMAN reactions...

Originally posted by 2damnloud
He is infact a primary authority since he wrote well over 20 years of her 30 year career.

Again, conviniently dodging the fact that Claremont has written Magneto owning the ass of Storm more then once. 😂

What, he is only highest authority on Storm when it comes to good things?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
😆 "Gods" being taken seriously in the comicbook context. She owned WW already, KMC notwithstanding.

MARVEL VS DC WAS FAN-VOTED, and thus it's not canon. You don't know that?! 😆

Oh, and Magneto has owned Storm multiple times, you nonwithstanding. The same thing doesn't apply there?

Hypocrite Association of United States would like you to represent them in the next "Biggest Hypocrite of 2007", want to join?

Originally posted by 2damnloud
When did this happen?

Against Wonder Woman, against Superman, against Magneto, against Martian Manhunter at the top of my head.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
She doesnt really have to do it like that. It would happen in tadem-- Fight starts, Lightning would instantly vaporize him, the high heat turns him into plasma😐

And why are you assuming that Iceman would not instantly freeze Storm's brain?

Originally posted by Superherovandal
She can make them pretty fast but not so fast that they affect the integrity of the atmosphere is all that i'm saying.

Hmm

Explain "integrity of the atmosphere", like the ins and outs of what would actually happen.

Originally posted by 2damnloud
shocklaugh@DarckCrawler's "logical deduction" in that Magneto Blood rip thread.

Don't tell me anything anymore about Storm.😆

*sigh*

If fraction of fraction of his power takes out someone, using a bit more power would have a bigger effect, and so long...

I don't see the fault of logic in that. 🤨

I do see the fault of logic in believing that Storm is equal to the Phoenix Force though. hysterical

Wait I thought Cockrum created Storm, not Claremont.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Because they didn't rip apart the entire building or the flesh from Magneto's face away, or tear any of his clothes, we can only assume that they weren't very powerful.

What dumb-ass logic you have. 😆

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

And he clearly states in that interview that Phoenix has a higher peak, and Storm can equal her because she can't maintain that peak for long. Thus, weakened Phoenix.

Don't know why this can't get through your thick head. Claremont, at no point, has stated that she is equal to the Phoenix Force without limits.

ALL incarnations have limits. But the nature of all are basically the same

Your premise is false.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

It actually is, and it certainly is faster then she can react to.

You know HUMAN reactions and all. She isn't dodging something that comes at her at escape velocity. 😱

Do you even have actual proof of Storm flying faster then Mach 1?

Storm has above normal human reactions. Are you actually gleaning this shit from the handbook??

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Do you even have actual proof of Storm flying faster then Mach 1?

Go look in her respect thread. She can fly from 300 to hypersonic speeds.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

I'm not referring into any freaking rips. I am referring into the instance where Storm VERY CLEARLY states that Magneto is able to stop her from using her powers, and Magneto does so.
http://img468.imageshack.us/img468/5360/magholdseveryxmeninplacob5.jpg

That's still not good enough. That would be equivalent to him "racting at the speed of thought".

Storm's almost killed him a couple times while holding back.

Claremont wrote that as well.😐

He still hasn't rippied but ONCE.

His homoglobin trick has been shown be absorbed my any mid-tier energy manipulator. Storm's is above that.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Storm's powers work as fast after a thought. TP/TK works together with a thought.

And the picture of psionics working faster then lightspeed was shown in the thread where this was debated...you know, with Polaris doing it at light speed, and Xavier contacting Lilandra from the other end of a galaxy...

How can it work at lightspeed when human thought is not lightspeed.

I take it as a Magneto moment--" react faster than thought".

A telepath goes through the same thought processing as anyone else.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Storm's powers work as fast after a thought.

And so does TP/TK.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

MM is easily past Mach speeds. He can hit Mach 11 in a second, he can keep up with the freaking FLASH.

Hell, Mach ONE would be too fast for Storms HUMAN reactions...

shocklaugh@ Mach 11. child's play.

Again, Storm has above normal reaction speeds.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Again, conviniently dodging the fact that Claremont has written Magneto owning the ass of Storm more then once. 😂

What, he is only highest authority on Storm when it comes to good things?

And he has also written her murdering Magneto.....LITERALLY. And holding back while tepidly doing it.😆

She hadled him with kit-gloves and STILL murdered him.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

MARVEL VS DC WAS [b]FAN-VOTED, and thus it's not canon. You don't know that?! 😆

Oh, and Magneto has owned Storm multiple times, you nonwithstanding. The same thing doesn't apply there?

Hypocrite Association of United States would like you to represent them in the next "Biggest Hypocrite of 2007", want to join?

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Storm's more popular. That's even WORSE.

She got owned in real-life and on panel. tsk tsk.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

Against Wonder Woman, against Superman, against Magneto, against Martian Manhunter at the top of my head.

Oh please.

Most of those are about speeds that they NEVER USE in BATTLE.

Storm has above normal reation speeds. and long range attacks.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

And why are you assuming that Iceman would not instantly freeze Storm's brain?

Because he'd be plasma.😐

Originally posted by yer
Wait I thought Cockrum created Storm, not Claremont.

No he didn't

CC didn't "create her" in the literal sense. He set the template for who Storm is.