Originally posted by xmarksthespot
I do often wonder why a character who isn't particularly interesting manages to garner such a devoted fanbase.
srug
I thought was he was somewhat interesting back in X-Factor comics. Thought, the reason I liked him in the first place was because of the animated series, and I have to admit, when I came across his comic book counterpart, I was a bit disappointed, but I think people are exaggerating on his part of jobbing...
I've always wondered why there are so many people who actually liked Dr. Doom. When I first read about him, I didn't find him the slightest interesting; he was just a cliche, arrogant, power hungry villain, who pretty much just wanted to rule the world.
Originally posted by XplosiveHe (possibly) psi-blasted Professor X and caused him pain. Once. Oh noes, he's the uberest telepath ever.
He made X look like he wasn't even a telepath.
Originally posted by Evil_AshNow Mystique... she's like an onion...
srugI thought was he was somewhat interesting back in X-Factor comics. Thought, the reason I liked him in the first place was because of the animated series, and I have to admit, when I came across his comic book counterpart, I was a bit disappointed, but I think people are exaggerating on his part of jobbing...
I've always wondered why there are so many people who actually liked Dr. Doom. When I first read about him, I didn't find him the slightest interesting; he was just a cliche, arrogant, power hungry villain, who pretty much just wanted to rule the world.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
He (possibly) psi-blasted Professor X and caused him pain. Once. Oh noes, he's the uberest telepath ever.
Oh look:
Emma > Nate now right?
Now Mystique... she's like an onion...
Hey, this picture doesn't change the fact what Apocalypse did to Xavier.
I don't care for that scan, you are just trying something to prove, to discredit what has Apocalypse done to Xavier, you can't, because what Apocalypse did to Xavier is a fact. Nothing will change that and that scan surely won't change anything.
And anyway, Xavier didn't show anything ever to be able to defeat Apocalypse or capable of hurting him.
Only showed to be punked by him.
Originally posted by XplosiveThe fact that it's essentially a one time occurrence i.e. SvFL discredits the feat.
Hey, this picture doesn't change the fact what Apocalypse did to Xavier.
I don't care for that scan, you are just trying something to prove, to discredit what has Apocalypse done to Xavier, you can't, because what Apocalypse did to Xavier is a fact. Nothing will change that and that scan surely won't change anything.And anyway, Xavier didn't show anything ever to be able to defeat Apocalypse or capable of hurting him.
Only showed to be punked by him.
For the record, Apoc has some major TP feats, including punking Exodus and being unphased by a TP blast from him.
I'm gonna take my boy Apoc in this one. 😎 Magneto has alot of high feats, and he is very powerful, but some of his feats are dubious and have never been replicated. Not to mention some of his powers pale in comparison to Apocalypse's. Stalemating the High E, taking down Loki, taking a scream from Black Bolt, being able to redirect Havoc's plasma blasts back at him, etc.
Unfortunately, Apoc jobs so much and is so critically underutilized and abused by Marvel, that currently, he'd probably lose. 🙁 Classic Apocalypse (IE: non-jobbing, well-written) should beat Magneto for a majority. Btw, Apocalypse can solo the illuminati (Minus Dr. Strange), can Erik? 😈
Originally posted by TricksterPriestExodus doesn't use telepathy on Apocalypse in Black Knight and Exodus nor does Apocalypse use telepathy on Exodus afaik. I've seen the list of "TP" feats you posted in Spunky's thread about Apocalypse's vaunted telepathy. The only one of those which was (possibly) telepathy was the Xavier one, which ironically isn't the often touted "Classic Apocalypse."
For the record, Apoc has some major TP feats, including punking Exodus and being unphased by a TP blast from him.
Originally posted by llagrok
Apocalypse hasn't been a jobber, he has always been depowered. When he fought Stryfe he was at around 1/10 of his original power level. It's the same during his fight with the x-men just recently, he was severely weakened.If Apocalypse is so incredibly weak, then Mr. Sinister would've been able to finish him off himself. Being a jobber doesn't mean you're weak, far from it.
Apoc has class 100 strength, telekinesis, energy manipulation, incredible durability, energy absorption and complete control over his body. Magneto is NOT more versatile than him, not by a long shot.
P.S I'm starting to doubt if Apocalypse has telepathy, seeing as if it really was telepathy, Prof X should've been bleeding out of his ears/nose.
Batdude, go take a look in his respect thread.
You don't need to tell me shit, llagorak. I know who he is, and I know what he's capable of.
Trust me, Apocalypse is no Magneto.
And Trickster is just bombarding himself with delusions of Apocalypse's power. Deep down, he understands Magneto is Apocalypse's superior. 👆
Originally posted by batdude123
You don't need to tell me shit, llagorak. I know who he is, and I know what he's capable of.Trust me, Apocalypse is no Magneto.
And Trickster is just bombarding himself with delusions of Apocalypse's power. Deep down, he understands Magneto is Apocalypse's superior. 👆
It's llagrok.
How would Magneto kill Apocalypse at full power, when Black Bolt can't?
Blackbolt has never let loose at Apocalypse, as noted by others Apocalypse took a whisper not a scream as has been misleadingly touted.
And really, people have to stop using recent feats if they're going to go on about Apocalypse being depowered after the moon battle, or depowered at some other arbitrary point in the past. Otherwise it's just cherrypicking.
