Originally posted by IOUIt doesnt, science states so. I reconmend you do study physics
outer space actually isnt a perfect vacuum, its not completely empty and it still contains matter, so try again
Originally posted by IOUI already have
again, youve failed to establish that the force can exist without mattertechnically, as TC, i should be allowed to make such a decision, but ill let you continue arguing it if you start offering up a valid point
Originally posted by IOUFair enough. Tk will render that useless however and so would malacia
the character who originally possessed the ability, DL Hawkings, could move through walls for long durations of time, phase through bullets, make anything he touches immaterial and phase through people
Originally posted by IOUAs gideon pointed out, How is he going to harm sidious if he gets into that state? And again sidious can instantly render sylar unconcious with a simple use of malacia which would render all of his abilities useless
sylar, thanks to his original ability of enhanced perception (somewhat akin to mace's shatterpoint ability), can master and perfect his abilities better than anybody else as can be seen when he steals the ability of telekinesis off of brian davis, and straight away can use the power to much greater effect, and the same thing happens with his liquefaction ability, so it can be safely assumed that sylars use of phasing far eclipses DL's
Originally posted by IOUMeaning even if he did get into that state, He still can be torn apart by TK
plot necessity?
Originally posted by IOUNope. Light alone which is made up of paticulary nothing gets destroyed and even if he did survive he would be warped to another dimention where he will never be able to escape
not if you can make yourself immaterial 😄
Originally posted by IOUYou really need to brush up on your chemistry because protons are in the nucleus of the atoms. No atoms = no protons Light isnt made of of atoms nor ions or charged particles. If a wormhole can destroy light it can too on sylar
so what if its not made up of atoms, its still made up of protons, and thus is material, which is more than can be said for DL when he phases. face it dude, sidious cant touch DL once hes phased
And before you claim he could go super sonic and cleave sidious head off, Think about it. His blurs still can be seen when he moves, Sidious moves faster than the eye meaning you cant follow his movements while you still get to see sylars blurs
It doesnt, science states so. I reconmend you do study physics
again, your wrong, outer space isnt actually entirely empty, it just has an extremely low density of particles
I already have
no u havent
Fair enough. Tk will render that useless however and so would malacia
how can TK or malacia effect something that is immaterial?
As gideon pointed out, How is he going to harm sidious if he gets into that state?
he can control which parts of his body stay phased, ergo he could phase completely through sidious, for example he could face his hand through sidious' head, and then unphase it once its already in, and crush his brain
And again sidious can instantly render sylar unconcious with a simple use of malacia which would render all of his abilities useless
hence why gideon was saying that it might depend on who reacts first
however theres no proof that anything sidious does would have an instant effect on sylar, whereas phasing is 100% instant
Meaning even if he did get into that state, He still can be torn apart by TK
no, thats not what that means, that means that shadowcat may have miraculously decided not to phase quick enough to prevent herself from getting telikenetically b1tchslapped purely for plot necessity despite it being unrealistic
Nope. Light alone which is made up of paticulary nothing gets destroyed and even if he did survive he would be warped to another dimention where he will never be able to escape
actually light is made up of subatomic particles, namely protons, this is simple stuff manslayer
You really need to brush up on your chemistry because protons are in the nucleus of the atoms. No atoms = no protons Light isnt made of of atoms nor ions or charged particles. If a wormhole can destroy light it can too on sylar
id suggest doing that yourself, protons are part of what makes up an atom, but they can still exist without being in that state, and light is indeed made up of protons.
And before you claim he could go super sonic and cleave sidious head off, Think about it. His blurs still can be seen when he moves, Sidious moves faster than the eye meaning you cant follow his movements while you still get to see sylars blurs
refer to my post afterwards
Originally posted by IOUYou really are an idiot if there was some particles they wouldnt call it a vacuum and its only in certein parts of the universe where there ARE matter. Like nebula and space gas, Sadly however the force still flows through some empty areas
again, your wrong, outer space isnt actually entirely empty, it just has an extremely low density of particles
Originally posted by IOUAww i did
no u havent
Originally posted by IOULets see. Malacia is a power which affects your mind, It doesnt have to physically touch you and tk would kill him seeing as TK rendered shadowcats(marvel) ability useless
how can TK or malacia effect something that is immaterial?
Originally posted by IOUAs if sidious cannot back away and give a counter attack. He hmself can move with blinding speeds Oh and by all means let sylar actually kill sidious physical form because sidious would still survive as his spirit and still be able to attack back since he drained the planet of byss as a spirit
he can control which parts of his body stay phased, ergo he could phase completely through sidious, for example he could face his hand through sidious' head, and then unphase it once its already in, and crush his brain
Originally posted by IOUHence force crush is also 100% instant and even if he did phase, Gideon whom is way more intelligent than you states that he wouldnt be able to harm sidious until he does like what you said, But sidious WOULD know that since he has precognition and he can mind trick sylars mind to render his for sight useless. Or how about using the force to create illusions of himself aka doppelgangers and then cloak his original self with the force, That would fool sylar
hence why gideon was saying that it might depend on who reacts first
however theres no proof that anything sidious does would have an instant effect on sylar, whereas phasing is 100% instant
Originally posted by IOUHers is instant sadly on the same level as sylar since she was born with it and she can phase subconciously when some one strikes her from the backno, thats not what that means, that means that shadowcat may have miraculously decided not to phase quick enough to prevent herself from getting telikenetically b1tchslapped purely for plot necessity despite it being unrealistic
Originally posted by IOULiar liar, Protons are in atoms fool and light isnt made up of atoms, You fail again. Go back to high school please. Light isnt physical because we cannot feel itactually light is made up of subatomic particles, namely protons, this is simple stuff manslayer
Originally posted by IOUIt isnt unless you want to prove which right you cant. A proton cant survive without a nucleus, electrons and neutrons
id suggest doing that yourself, protons are part of what makes up an atom, but they can still exist without being in that state, and light is indeed made up of protons.
Originally posted by IOUTheresno need to
refer to my post afterwards
You really are an idiot if there was some particles they wouldnt call it a vacuum and its only in certein parts of the universe where there ARE matter. Like nebula and space gas, Sadly however the force still flows through some empty areas
again, ur wrong, its considered a virtual vacuum due to the incredibly low density, thats it
Aww i did
Aww u didnt
Lets see. Malacia is a power which affects your mind, It doesnt have to physically touch you
clearly not, as having a great physical dexterity is stated as a possible defence in the totj companion
and tk would kill him seeing as TK rendered shadowcats(marvel) ability useless
bullsh1t, it was used on shadowcat before she had a chance to phase, please dont lie
As if sidious cannot back away and give a counter attack. He hmself can move with blinding speeds Oh and by all means let sylar actually kill sidious physical form because sidious would still survive as his spirit and still be able to attack back since he drained the planet of byss as a spirit
causing physical death counts as a winning condition in all of these versus threads, and especially in this one given im the tc and its a decision im making, ur completely grasping at straws here
Hence force crush is also 100% instant
the execution of the power is, however not necessarily the crush itself, especially considering sylar knowing the technique and therefor has a defence as well
and even if he did phase, Gideon whom is way more intelligent than you states that he wouldnt be able to harm sidious until he does like what you said, But sidious WOULD know that since he has precognition and he can mind trick sylars mind to render his for sight useless.
except sylar would know better than to just let sidious mindtrick him, hes incredibly smart and wouldnt keep eye contact and would isolate sidious' words from what he can hear if sidious were to even attempt it
Or how about using the force to create illusions of himself aka doppelgangers and then cloak his original self with the force, That would fool sylar
too bad sylar has enhanced hearing to the point where he can hear something as quiet as a heartbeat and would be able to use the power to locate sidious
Hers is instant sadly on the same level as sylar since she was born with it
i wasnt arguing that it was instant, however shed still have to actively decide to phase, and thought process is not instant
and she can phase subconciously when some one strikes her from the back
you forget to mention that shadowcat requires some sort of indication of danger to subconsciously do so, something which she didnt get with phoenix
Liar liar, Protons are in atoms fool and light isnt made up of atoms, You fail again. Go back to high school please. Light isnt physical because we cannot feel it
read up!!
light isnt immaterial, it contains protons, and protons can exist without being in atoms, know what ur talking about fool
It isnt unless you want to prove which right you cant. A proton cant survive without a nucleus, electrons and neutrons
refer to the above
Theresno need to
clearly there is
Originally posted by kamikz
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im not completely sure about this but i dont think just simply having a strong will makes you immune to the technique itself, but i think the greater the potency of the mind trick, the stronger the will required is in defending against it
...If that's the case, Sylar better be quick on the job. Because even if he has the willpower to fight off someone of Sidious's caliber, it's no easy feat.
Originally posted by IOU
yeah, agreed, though how does the mindtrick even work? does it require eye contact as well as your target actually hearing what ur saying, because if thats the case, sylar could manage to defend himself through some unorthodox manner
I don't know. I'm no expert on mindtricks. (except with Advent 😉 )