Originally posted by carver9
Avalonofthewind, youre a i****. What Thor couldnt do to juggernaut doesnt mean that he cant do it to superman, Steel, or who ever due to the fact that juggernaut whole character is his durability and he has a forcefield up to measure it. Everyone that you have named juggernaut durability is >> theres.Juggernaut has survived things and didnt feel it than most of the people you have named. Example; getting burned down to the bone and is still walking like nothing has happened. Bad example to use juggernaut when he is arguably one of the most durable characters is comics.
And thor out put of energy is >>>>>> supermans by a long shot. Superman main output of energy is his freeze breath and his heat vision. I dont even want to name everything that thor can do and the energy that he can dish out. Thor is so much more versatile than superman that its sickening.
Thor would be a better match and could possibly pull out some wins. Just because superman couldnt do it dont mean that thor cant.
I dont know why in the hell im up here arguing with you when your one of the most superman fans that i have met in my life. You dont think that the guy could lose to anyone. By the way you got it all mixed up with superman splitting a moon. He didnt split it with his fist, he flew through it. Anyone with a high class of durability and flight speed could do that. Its not impressive.
Beta ray bill stood on top of a planet and destroyed it. Two completely diffrent things. Superman has never broke a planet or even crushed anything close to the size of a city. I have seen him destroy a asteroid but we dont know how big the asteroid was. Im not saying that he cant do it but it has never been done (I collect a lot of his comics and havent seen it yet.).
I would like to get back to the juggernaut not being harmed by thors hammer. You do know what cytorrak is based off of. Well let me tell you, he is based off of true strength and invulnerability. He has other powers at his disposal but his main is his invulnerability and strength. He was stated as a being that could never be harmed and his strength was unlimited. He gave that to the juggernaut, the strength and the durability but the other powers juggernaut just dont know how to call upon them. So what galactus failed to do but juggernaut did dont mean jack sh** because again juggernaut could be the most durable person in comics. I have yet to see the character bleed.
But i havent came up with who would win this battle yet. Kinda leaning to thor since he is so da** VERSATILE.
Why do you bother to post? Who's going to read this wall of text?
Stop playing around and let the debaters debate. 🙂
Originally posted by Juntai
Looking in the Bill respect thread, it seems Bill is actually pretty superior. In their first confrontation easily bashing Thor up.In another, he had the upper hand, and Thor was begging Valkerie for help. Then Thor stood up and took a shot as Surfer, and Bill jumped in front of it.
Even in the case of Warrior Madness Thor, and Bills heart wasn't even even the fight, just trying to talk some sense into Thor... when they were engaged in physical confrontation Bill was busting him up, then Thor started using Mjolnir blasts, ftw.
Looking across the four or five confrontations there, when they engage melee, Bill is his superior.
Even in the Thor thread there is an example of Thor saying he was barely able to beat an enemy, and him being weak at the time had little shot of winning, but he had to try anyway. Then Bill flies in and smashes the guy like an ant.
Nope, first confrontation Bill came out victorious due to outside stipulations. Thor dropped Mjolnir, was unable to obtain it in 60 seconds, and was ko'd as Blake.
Second confrontation was a dead tie. Bill woke up from being ko'd before Thor because of the environment Odin placed them in.
Warrior Madness, Bill and Thor fought numerous times. Surfer almost dies, Bill almost dies, Warlock almost dies.
etc.