Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Stop believing everything youre told is happening in scenes. Take time out to analyse comics yourself. Jamie did NO such thing.Nope. He created a city within an alternate universe within which he created an avatar of himself to mess around with Excalibur.
When Jamie gets distracted and diverts his attention, what fades? The universe? ❌
The planet? ❌
Just the city Excalibur were in:
And yet some would have you believe he created that entire universe.
Based on what? 😕
The fact that he shot down some stars? Certainly not from on panel statement or depiction.
Within a reality warpers reality warp, the laws of space and time need not apply. Whilst within a warp, the space could appear limitless, however from outside the warp, the area the warp covers could be as small as a telephone box.
Look at the M'kraan crystal for example. As big as a bus looking at it from its outside where the laws of time/space apply, but from inside its confines are limitless.
I always analyse the situation and make up my own mind, I never point blank accept the scans.
Have you thought about the possiblity that he warp can also easily be enormous in it own right but dwindle just as quickly?
I believe we have had that argument before every being analyses the current event in different ways. My analyse of that scan is different from your own and everyones openion is equal. Unfortunetely I don't have a scaner to show you what I think show that he was warping a universe but I could just as well try to convince you that: A. Jasper warped a universe B. The UN rewrote the multiverse. Thats your interpretations and you are allowed to have them, as I'm allowed to have my own.
Originally posted by Utrigita
I always analyse the situation and make up my own mind, I never point blank accept the scans.Have you thought about the possiblity that he warp can also easily be enormous in it own right but dwindle just as quickly?
I believe we have had that argument before every being analyses the current event in different ways. My analyse of that scan is different from your own and everyones openion is equal. Unfortunetely I don't have a scaner to show you what I think show that he was warping a universe but I could just as well try to convince you that: A. Jasper warped a universe B. The UN rewrote the multiverse. Thats your interpretations and you are allowed to have them, as I'm allowed to have my own.
All it comes down to is that the ONLY evidence you have behind the opinion that Jamie CREATED an entire universe is the fact that he shot down stars in that alternate universe scene. 🤨
Your point isnt stated or even suggested.
My interpretation is alot more probable given the showings Jamie had at the time, plus the events of the comic actually support my interpretation and dont support yours in the slightest. I.e nowhere is Jamie shown creating a universe, nowhere is that stated, youre just putting two and two together. Supposition. Jamie turns away from his games in that other reality and ONLY the city Excalibur were fighting in, plus the Jamie avatar itself disappears. That says it all. 😉
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
All it comes down to is that the ONLY evidence you have behind the opinion that Jamie CREATED an entire universe is the fact that he shot down stars in that alternate universe scene. 🤨Your point isnt stated or even suggested.
My interpretation is alot more probable given the showings Jamie had at the time, plus the events of the comic actually support my interpretation and dont support yours in the slightest. I.e nowhere is Jamie shown creating a universe, nowhere is that stated, youre just putting two and two together. Supposition. Jamie turns away from his games in that other reality and ONLY the city Excalibur were fighting in, plus the Jamie avatar itself disappears. That says it all. 😉
Allow my to pound my last statement into you head I HAVE NO SCANNER. hence is why I almost never shows any scans.
oh lets completely ignore this scans:
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91717725sy0.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j1ht7.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j2cp4.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j3gx4.jpg
because if we do then yes Jamie did nothing great only managed to be in the 616 and then create a totally different reality no it isn't important.
P.S. and that is my analyse of the situation. But basically you have to disagree with anything Master say and thats okay makes sure the rest of us doesn't get carried away 😄 I agree with you on some points and I agree with him on some points, and most of us agree with the one that makes the best points.
scan seems to say "hes fading away" "so's the city"
but some do consider big citys to be practicly universes with in them selfs
cis is involed in these battles and going by those scans
jean scolds and yells at jamie to go to bed for the win.
mabey throws a spanking in for good messure 😆
quoted from the rules
"Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates."
jamie is genuinely that dumb!!
Originally posted by xjustice69x
scan seems to say "hes fading away" "so's the city"
but some do consider big citys to be practicly universes with in them selfscis is involed in these battles and going by those scans
jean scolds and yells at jamie to go to bed for the win.
mabey throws a spanking in for good messure 😆quoted from the rules
"Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates."
jamie is genuinely that dumb!!
😆
Originally posted by Utrigita
oh lets completely ignore this scans:
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91717725sy0.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j1ht7.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j2cp4.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j3gx4.jpgbecause if we do then yes Jamie did nothing great only managed to be in the 616 and then create a totally different reality no it isn't important.
P.S. and that is my analyse of the situation. But basically you have to disagree with anything Master say and thats okay makes sure the rest of us doesn't get carried away 😄 I agree with you on some points and I agree with him on some points, and most of us agree with the one that makes the best points.
Ummm ONCE AGAIN where in those scans is it STATED and/or CONCLUSIVELY depicted that Jamie created that alternate universe.
There is no statement or artistic depiction anywhere on panel for you to come to that conclusion. The stars within Jamies reality warp turn to dust so that means Jamie created that universe? 🤨
Horrible, horrible argument. 😬
What is actually stated is that there appears to be a connection between Jamies games in 616 and whats going on with Excalibur in that other dimension.
Kitty clicks on to this and then knowing Jamie to be a dumbass, pretends to be one of his carers and orders him to stop playing his "chess game" and to go to bed.
Soon as 616 Jamie stops playing his game, what happens? 😖hifty:
The city Excalibur were fighting disappears as does the Jamie they were fighting against. Thats ALL that disappears.
From that occurrence, plus the fact that your argument is completely unfounded on panel i think this is pretty much done and dusted.
Phoenix for the win! 😱
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
My interpretation is alot more probable given the showings Jamie had at the time, plus the events of the comic actually support my interpretation and dont support yours in the slightest. I.e nowhere is Jamie shown creating a universe, nowhere is that stated, youre just putting two and two together. Supposition. Jamie turns away from his games in that other reality and ONLY the city Excalibur were fighting in, plus the Jamie avatar itself disappears. That says it all.
I disagree.
Jamie 616 created that Alternate Reality.
Jamie 616 was controlling everything,
but he's insane so Kitty was able to put him to sleep portraying his mommy. 😂
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Show me where its stated that Jaspers created that universe or drop the point. You cant use your supposition as a feat. Jamie stopped his games, the city and his avatar disappearred. No more, no less. Your opinion has no support.
I disagree.
Jamie FTW,
and Jamie 616 created that Alternate Reality and his counterpart with power of his own. 🙂
Originally posted by Utrigita
oh lets completely ignore this scans:
http://img59.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91717725sy0.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j1ht7.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j2cp4.jpg
http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=j3gx4.jpgbecause if we do then yes Jamie did nothing great only managed to be in the 616 and then
create a totally different reality no it isn't important.
P.S. and that is my analyse of the situation.
But basically you have to disagree with anything Master say and thats okay
makes sure the rest of us doesn't get carried away 😄
👆
Originally posted by xjustice69x👆
scan seems to say "hes fading away" "so's the city"
but some do consider big citys to be practicly universes with in them selfscis is involed in these battles and going by those scans
jean scolds and yells at jamie to go to bed for the win.
mabey throws a spanking in for good messure 😆quoted from the rules
"Character Induced Stupidity, or CIS, on the other hand, refers to any natural mental limitations that characters impose upon themselves and reduce their ability to use their own skills and powers effectively. Unlike PIS, CIS does not occur because the plot requires it, but because the character is genuinely that dumb. Examples of the CIS-afflicted include characters such as Rhino or Jar Jar Binks. Events of CIS are not exempt from debates."
jamie is genuinely that dumb!!
I do believe CIS would be involved in this battle......we dont question anything about the rhino? and this guy is clearly more in the stupid end of this debate
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Ummm ONCE AGAIN where in those scans is it STATED and/or CONCLUSIVELY depicted that Jamie created that alternate universe.There is no statement or artistic depiction anywhere on panel for you to come to that conclusion. The stars within Jamies reality warp turn to dust so that means Jamie created that universe?
Horrible, horrible argument.
What is actually stated is that there appears to be a connection between Jamies games in 616 and whats going on with Excalibur in that other dimension.
Kitty clicks on to this and then knowing Jamie to be a dumbass, pretends to be one of his carers and orders him to stop playing his "chess game" and to go to bed.
Soon as 616 Jamie stops playing his game, what happens?
The city Excalibur were fighting disappears as does the Jamie they were fighting against. Thats ALL that disappears.
From that occurrence, plus the fact that your argument is completely unfounded on panel i think this is pretty much done and dusted.
I disagree.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix for the win!
dontgetit
Jamie Braddock Warped the White Hot Room ("Heart of the Phoenix"😉 like child's play.
This is the WHR
Jamie teleported Rachel and Betsy to the Room,
then after a short while he begins to Morph the White Hot Room:
He appears flying by an image of Captain Britain:
Jamie Braddock with total control of the WHR ("Heart of the Phoenix"😉
Jamie Warps it into a Crystal like object.
Jamie Braddock FTW in a Stomp! ✅
