The Dangers Of Creationism In Education

Started by xmarksthespot14 pages

Originally posted by ThePittman
Also what is with all the editing on your post, do you write something and then realize that it is BS and need to change it?
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
What is it?

A mutated shark?

And you are no less of an idiot then me because you also believe in a an assumed process mentioned in books made by Evolutionists.

This originally said "mutated whale."

Collectively his posts tell me at best he has possibly some high school general science education and his "studying evolution" derives from Wikipedia and other unreferenced likely biased websites with a creationist slant.

Originally posted by InnerRise
I stated a fact. I stated how some people believe.

That is all.

Don't get all offensive and defensive for whatever reason.

Just b/c it's not your belief doesn't mean it's wrong and gives you no right to act stupid.

What I know is what I POSTED.

You want more. Research can be your friend. I'll introduce you 2 since it seems you've never met.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

I'm sorry to have ruffled your feathers little girl.........

you stated something impossible, that a person believes to things that directly contradict each other. you have no first hand knowledge as you've admitted.......then you offer no clarification. perhaps you need to do research. It seems to me what you are talking about is intelligent design with a diety, god, using the mechanism of evolution for the design. some people certainly do believe this........but those people are not fundamentalists who believe the bible is true and certainly has nothing to do with creationism or the belief thereof. you, however, stated that people believe the creation story in the bible to be true and evolution, which is just prepostorous and contradictory. Do a quick google search of "intelligent design" and "creationism" to learn the difference as it seems you do not know. When you're done, please return to this thread........perhaps you may be able to contribute.

Originally posted by InnerRise

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

I don't understand some people's drive to post absolute nonsense and then retreat to the "I'm just saying" or the "Whatever I don't care" defense. :/

way to be evasive, totally adds stuff to the thread

Originally posted by Evil Dead
I'm sorry to have ruffled your feathers little girl.........

you stated something impossible, that a person believes to things that directly contradict each other. you have no first hand knowledge as you've admitted.......then you offer no clarification. perhaps you need to do research. It seems to me what you are talking about is intelligent design with a diety, god, using the mechanism of evolution for the design. some people certainly do believe this........but those people are not fundamentalists who believe the bible is true and certainly has nothing to do with creationism or the belief thereof. you, however, stated that people believe the creation story in the bible to be true and evolution, which is just prepostorous and contradictory. Do a quick google search of "intelligent design" and "creationism" to learn the difference as it seems you do not know. When you're done, please return to this thread........perhaps you may be able to contribute.

When you ASSUME you make a...............yeah you know the rest.

I've stated something impossible?

So are you saying that nobody on Earth believes in this way? Prove that nonsense then.

Who are you to say what is impossible for people to believe and what is not. You don't set the standards.

Even NAZ said a page back or so how she was taught about both the Bible and Evolution and how they coexist.

Tell the many people who DO believe that way that it is impossible. I don't care how impossible you may think it is to believe in that way, but there are actual PEOPLE on EARTH who DO BELIEVE it.

Nothing you say can change that FACT.

Your lack of COMPREHENSION is what is IMPOSSIBLE.

Anata wa wakarimaus ka.....

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Explain how that is possible.

Are you playing dumb?

There are even on KMC people that believe that. Not everyone is a fundamentalist "Earth is 5000 years old" Christian.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Are you playing dumb?

There are even on KMC people that believe that. Not everyone is a fundamentalist "Earth is 5000 years old" Christian.

I don't get how it works though. Let me guess. God created the animals, then they evolved?

Originally posted by lord xyz
I don't get how it works though. Let me guess. God created the animals, then they evolved?

Well, for one God could have used the big bang and it could have gone like we now think it has gone without a God.

There are multiple possibilities. The one stated above seems reasonable in many ways.

There could be a third possiblity though.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, for one God could have used the big bang and it could have gone like we now think it has gone without a God.

There are multiple possibilities. The one stated above seems reasonable in many ways.


That doesn't really coincide with the theory of Creationism.

Originally posted by InnerRise
When you ASSUME you make a...............yeah you know the rest.

I've stated something impossible?

yes. you've states something mathematically and therefore scientifically impossible. You stated that you know someone who believes the earth is 7000 years old (creationism) and also believes it is 4.5 billion years old (evolution). nonsense kid. A person could definitely believe both in their life, just not at the same time. They are contradictory. Me thinks you seek attention.

So are you saying that nobody on Earth believes in this way? Prove that nonsense then.

yes I am saying that. Nobody on this earth believes the earth is BOTH 7,000 and 4.5 billion years old. mathematically, scientifically impossible. A person like you might SAY it to garner much needed attention on a internet message board....but not believe it. Prove it? LOL........you don't even know it's impossible to prove a negative? what the hell are you doing here? Your new nickname is Straw Man.

Who are you to say what is impossible for people to believe and what is not. You don't set the standards.

I'm Evil Dead......the guy who knows that it is mathematically impossible for something, anything to be only 7,000 years old and for it to also be 4.5 billion years old. See....that's mathematics. The moment you state something is ONLY 7,000 years old, the eliminates the possibility that the person believes it to be older than that.....you don know what the word only means?

Even NAZ said a page back or so how she was taught about both the Bible and Evolution and how they coexist.

You misread. He was taught about the bible.....but not that the creation story is true. He stated his church taught Evolution was how life came to be on this planet.......not that humans were created by Adam being created from dirt and Eve being created from one of Adam's rib. You are simply typing "the bible".....which is you trying to change the subject. This thread concerns no book of the bible other than genesis, creationism.

Tell the many people who DO believe that way that it is impossible. I don't care how impossible you may think it is to believe in that way, but there are actual PEOPLE on EARTH who DO BELIEVE it.

one doesn't exist. you make a claim, now prove it. Show me a person on this planet who believes the earth is only 7,000 years old.....but also believes it is 4.5 billion years old, completely contradictory to it ONLY being 7,000 years old. Show me someone who believes humans evolved from a lower order of primates over hundreds of thousands of years.........but also believes humans were created in ONLY 1 day by god from dirt (Adam) and a rib bone (Eve). Ofcourse, if a person believes life was created in only 1 day by God, then it's impossible that the person believes life evolved over millions of years.......the very word "only" prevents it.

Nothing you say can change that FACT.

nothing I can say can change a fact, very true. I have yet to see you post a fact in this thread or any other for that matter. I have seen you post ridiculous bullshit......but no facts.

Your lack of COMPREHENSION is what is IMPOSSIBLE.

that doesn't even make sense. You claim I lack comprehension......then claim it is impossible that I do so. Jesus Christ you're f-cked up.

Originally posted by backdoorman
That doesn't really coincide with the theory of Creationism.

A-actually, there is no set theory of creationism.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
that doesn't even make sense. You claim I lack comprehension......then claim it is impossible that I do so. Jesus Christ you're f-cked up.

That deserves a huge "LOL"...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=creationism

edit: that was in response to Bardock.

Originally posted by backdoorman
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=creationism

edit: that was in response to Bardock.

Hmm, alright, though I think creationism does apply to those two (seeing as they believe in....creation), that is not that much the point really. There are people that believe in creation that don't think that the earth is 8000 year old, etc...

Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, alright, though I think creationism does apply to those two (seeing as they believe in....creation), that is not that much the point really. There are people that believe in creation that don't think that the earth is 8000 year old, etc...

little c creation and big C Creation

the latter seems to be a strict abrahamic ideology

I do agree however, it would be naive to paint all creationists with a similar brush.

Originally posted by Bardock42
A-actually, there is no set theory of creationism.

Main Entry:
cre·a·tion·ism Listen to the pronunciation of creationism
Pronunciation:
\-shə-ˌni-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1880

: a doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by God out of nothing and usually in the way described in Genesis

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creationism

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Hmm, alright, though I think creationism does apply to those two (seeing as they believe in....creation), that is not that much the point really. There are people that believe in creation that don't think that the earth is 8000 year old, etc...

intelligent design? completely separate......does not have a strict set of guidelines to adhere to as creationism does as laid out in the book of Genesis. Hell........I believe in Intelligent Design, but it has nothing to do with Adam, Eve, humans constructed from dirt, or taking place in 24 hours.

Main Entry:
intelligent design
Function:
noun
Date:
1847

: the theory that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by a designing intelligence

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intelligent%20design

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Technically shouldn't it be six days to create everything, excluding the one day of rest.

"Human evolved from apes." strawman. Lawl.

I never got why god had to rest, does this mean his power has limits...

the people making up the story didn't write it chronologically. They alreayd had the ten commandments done......liked them and had to come up with a reason for the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Originally posted by Evil Dead
Main Entry:
cre·a·tion·ism Listen to the pronunciation of creationism
Pronunciation:
\-shə-ˌni-zəm\
Function:
noun
Date:
1880

: a doctrine or theory holding that matter, the various forms of life, and the world were created by God out of nothing and usually in the way described in Genesis

http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creationism

That's actually the worst definition you could have taken, cause, well, it supports my view.

Many people believe that God created everything out of nothing, they don't have to believe that he created it like we see it now though. Those are fundamentalists.

People that believe in that (like Naz for example, and FeceMan, I think) are often still called creationists.

Now, that might have been wrongly labeled, in that case I apologize, and would restate my point using the correct word which might be "Intelligen Design" or "Belieg in creation through a Supreme being in one way or another"

Originally posted by Bardock42
A-actually, there is no set theory of creationism.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, alright, though I think creationism does apply to those two (seeing as they believe in....creation), that is not that much the point really. There are people that believe in creation that don't think that the earth is 8000 year old, etc...
Originally posted by inimalist
little c creation and big C Creation

the latter seems to be a strict abrahamic ideology

I do agree however, it would be naive to paint all creationists with a similar brush.

Exactly.

Why some people are so closed minded I'll never know.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....