Originally posted by Alliance
The Father is the creator.
You do not understand the triune God. God is Father, Son, Holy Spirit, so all Three are Creator. In fact, to reinforce this Truth the Bible states that God (meaning the Father even though Jesus is God too) created all things through Jesus Christ.
Originally posted by Alliance
No. I asked where.
I was going to give you the Scripture reference so that you could look it up on your own time. But here it is:
Ephesians 3:9
and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;
Originally posted by Alliance
"kai fwtisai [pantaV] tiV h oikonomia tou musthriou tou apokekrummenou apo twn aiwnwn en tw qew tw ta panta ktisanti"its a mistranslation, the original Greek word that was translated into "through" actually more often means "on account of."
God created the world so he could bring his son into it.
But Jesus is God too. Rember: God is triune (Three in one). So Jesus Christ is the Creator (more Scriptural support):
Colossians 1:16-17
16 For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. 17 And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist.
I think we need a reference check on him? Despite that Christianity is henotheistic, you do a disservice to God by claiming that he is something when he is not. If God was interested in only being Jesus, the OT would have been presented that way. Clearly God wanted a different persona to be the creator.
Jesus was very clear on maintianing the integrity of the one true God, His father, the creator of all things. Jesus made that distinction...you should too.
Originally posted by Alliance
I think we need a reference check on him? Despite that Christianity is henotheistic, you do a disservice to God by claiming that he is something when he is not. If God was interested in only being Jesus, the OT would have been presented that way. Clearly God wanted a different persona to be the creator.Jesus was very clear on maintianing the integrity of the one true God, His father, the creator of all things. Jesus made that distinction...you should too.
Are you referring to John 17:3? Jesus is God (Read John 1:1)
John 17:3
3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent.
I want to continue this conversation with you but I have to run. I will talk to you later.
Originally posted by Alliance
"kai fwtisai [pantaV] tiV h oikonomia tou musthriou tou apokekrummenou apo twn aiwnwn en tw qew tw ta panta ktisanti"its a mistranslation, the original Greek word that was translated into "through" actually more often means "on account of."
God created the world so he could bring his son into it.
"If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me!"
-Marilyn Ferguson, first female govenor of Texas, 1925