Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlWell to me, "held back" means that something was moving in one direction, and another variable momentarily halted it's progress.
To me held back and slowed down are the same. If I were to say he stopped the God wave, then That would be incorrect. Meh, just our interpretation of words.
Whereas "slowed down", means something was slowed, but not halted...
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Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirlagain do u undersetimate the power of the big g. he takes out solar systems physically when hes angry. galactus could crush darkseid,highfather, and takion at once. he is galactus and way above any new god. closet one was yuga khan and he tore through new gods like a knife cutting through butter.
You are so silly. Darksied and highfather and Takion And Stayne Are enough to give hell. Don't forget all those Mother boxes and Father boxes. Also Metron has the mobious chair and the worlogog. He could win this all on his own.
is Galactus not allowed to make Heralds 'on-the-fly'?
or what about replenishing/reviving his Heralds?
if he's allowed to use his powers to their fullest, the numbers wouldn't matter. each one of his Heralds would be Galactus level...
as for reality warping or whatever, Galactus and his Heralds could easily destroy these characters from galaxies away, beyond their perception.
and Surfer can travel in time, somewhat, so Galactus could simply amp that power up further and make it a far easier victory for Heavy G and the boys.
I don't think its clearcut in any direction.
Most New Gods are fodder types who'd be vaped by Tyrant or Galactus.
I don't think any NG can stack up to Galactus pound for pound, but it depends.
Is he hungry? Is Tyrant fully powered?
And Yuga Khan is a Promethian Giant, not a New God.
Galactus at one of his moderate showings can vape most of the fodder himself, with Tyrant there to massacre the rest.
The heralds can also do some justice.
I'll say 50/50
Originally posted by UniOmni
I don't think its clearcut in any direction.Most New Gods are fodder types who'd be vaped by Tyrant or Galactus.
I don't think any NG can stack up to Galactus pound for pound, but it depends.
Is he hungry? Is Tyrant fully powered?
And Yuga Khan is a Promethian Giant, not a New God.
Galactus at one of his moderate showings can vape most of the fodder himself, with Tyrant there to massacre the rest.
The heralds can also do some justice.
I'll say 50/50
Does Galactus matcht he power of the Godwave? NOT!!! Takion and Stayne Unleashed upon Big G would give him hell. Highfather and Darksied would make short work of Tyrant and There are many New Gods who are Herald lvl or above. Mantis, Devilance, Orion, Barda, Mr. Miracle, Light Ray, The Infinity man is above most of the heralds, Kalibak is above the top tier as well, let's not forget about grayven and the Black Racer. What are the Heralds goign to do to the black Racer. And Metron is a whole other problem to the heralds. The new Gods win in a solid victory. We also have Desaad who has shown that he is nearly as powerful as Thanos is. Able to impersonate Darksied with almost unerring perfection.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Does Galactus matcht he power of the Godwave? NOT!!! Takion and Stayne Unleashed upon Big G would give him hell. Highfather and Darksied would make short work of Tyrant and There are many New Gods who are Herald lvl or above. Mantis, Devilance, Orion, Barda, Mr. Miracle, Light Ray, The Infinity man is above most of the heralds, Kalibak is above the top tier as well, let's not forget about grayven and the Black Racer. What are the Heralds goign to do to the black Racer. And Metron is a whole other problem to the heralds. The new Gods win in a solid victory. We also have Desaad who has shown that he is nearly as powerful as Thanos is. Able to impersonate Darksied with almost unerring perfection.
Wow.
Stayne and Takion unleashed upon Galactus will give him hell? Not likely.
Devilance, Barda, Orion, Mr. Miracle and LightRay above herald level?
BARDA?!
Mr. Miracle.........ie Spiderman with a better colorscheme?!
Devilance?!
Orion is merely a top tier.
Lightray?! Not even close.
The Infinityman i'll give you, but nobody else.
Kalibak is above the top tier?! Not in his dreams.
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE LAUGH AT YOU.
Metron? He's not a fighter type character, and is frankly useless without prep.
I forgot about the Black Racer, true.
Desaad?
DESAAD?! You're using the fact that he impersonates Darkseid as proof that he's above the top tier?
Reaching much?
The only threats to Galactus at all, are Darkseid(lollaecakes) and Highfather.
The Black Racer is hard to peg, since he operates only in Apok/NG.
Galactus devolves the entire lineup into amoebas, and Tyrant massacres the leftovers.
Lol at the high level New Gods being approximately equal to Surfer.
That's a funny.
70/30 is the new odds for the match
Originally posted by Deathstroke
In Superman #663 about 35 New Genisian kids are running around Metropolis just playing around and one of them nearly takes out Superman with one attack.If a New God child can nearly take out Superman in one attack that's pretty impressive.
Exactly. High Father Says explicitly that The very least of New Genesis is more powerful than the most powerful of Olympus and Asgard.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Does Galactus matcht he power of the Godwave? NOT!!! Takion and Stayne Unleashed upon Big G would give him hell. Highfather and Darksied would make short work of Tyrant and There are many New Gods who are Herald lvl or above. Mantis, Devilance, Orion, Barda, Mr. Miracle, Light Ray, The Infinity man is above most of the heralds, Kalibak is above the top tier as well, let's not forget about grayven and the Black Racer. What are the Heralds goign to do to the black Racer. And Metron is a whole other problem to the heralds. The new Gods win in a solid victory. We also have Desaad who has shown that he is nearly as powerful as Thanos is. Able to impersonate Darksied with almost unerring perfection.
Just so I've said it.
Herald levels won't harm Galactus, nor will they defeat Tyrant. They're not really useful in a battle against Galactus and Tyrant, simple as that.
If you want a shot at injuring Galactus, you'll need skyfathers or stronger.
How many people do they have that are far above Skyfather level?
[Originally posted by UniOmniWow.
Stayne and Takion unleashed upon Galactus will give him hell? Not likely.
Takion alone was able to slow the power of the Godwave. him and Stayne Together would most certainly be able to hurt galactus in a big way.
Devilance, Barda, Orion, Mr. Miracle and LightRay above herald level?
Did I say Above? I said herald lvl AND above.
BARDA?!
Barda is as strong as any herald with the omega rod which was able to blast thru the harmony and charity shields and her weaker gun was able to put a hole in amazo
Mr. Miracle.........ie Spiderman with a better colorscheme?!
Mr. Miracle would beat the crap out of spiderman, captain america, and wolverine all for fun.
Devilance?!
Devilance is the only new God who can challenge the might of the IM except for DS.
Orion is merely a top tier.
Orion With Strength alone is a top tier. With the AF and MB he is above the top tier.
Lightray?! Not even close.
Lightray has showings to outshine many of the heralds. Try again.
The Infinityman i'll give you, but nobody else.
Kalibak is above the top tier?! Not in his dreams.
Kalibak has had a huge power up.
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE LAUGH AT YOU.
This is why people like you are made to look like fools. You speak out of the side of your ******* and then I counter your shit with some real shit.
Metron? He's not a fighter type character, and is frankly useless without prep.
Metron Doesn't need prep when he has the worlogog and the mobius chair. And he is always prepared. It's his character.
I forgot about the Black Racer, true.
Desaad?
DESAAD?! You're using the fact that he impersonates Darkseid as proof that he's above the top tier?
Reaching much? Sorry that you dont' like the fact that Desaad is so powerful. It only shows your true biased colors. What I said about desaad had merit.
The only threats to Galactus at all, are Darkseid(lollaecakes) and Highfather.
The Black Racer is hard to peg, since he operates only in Apok/NG.
Galactus devolves the entire lineup into amoebas, and Tyrant massacres the leftovers.
Lol at the high level New Gods being approximately equal to Surfer.
That's a funny.
70/30 is the new odds for the match
The ****ign kids of new genesis can take out Superman. So much for your theory. you lose.
Originally posted by Deathstroke
In Superman #663 about 35 New Genisian kids are running around Metropolis just playing around and one of them nearly takes out Superman with one attack.If a New God child can nearly take out Superman in one attack that's pretty impressive.
Where?
I just skimmed the issue but the closest they got to hurting him was with the crono-freeze.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Where?I just skimmed the issue but the closest they got to hurting him was with the crono-freeze.
That was why I put that one "nearly" took out Superman. Supes said he was instantly colder than he'd ever been before and almost passed out. I wasn't trying to make it sound like they were attacking and trying to hurt him but just take him out of action. Sorry for the confusion.
I was basically just trying to say "Hey, even little New Gods are pretty powerful if one can almost take out Supes"