The match ups come into play. As it has been said Dooku isn't physically strong like Anakin. But Mual is strong,fast,etc. (like anakin) which means he would fight an aggressive way that is somewhat similar to Anakin's. That could cause a problem that Anakin would overcome but it means there is a chance he could last longer than Dooku. (I'm not saying Maul>Dooku)
Originally posted by Count Makashi✅
I do believe Anakin can effortlessly defeat Maul, because one of the reasons, is him trashing Dooku. But his victory against Dooku, wasn't just because he was physically more powerful, if that is the case, anyone who is physically strong can defeat Dooku easily and yet, he(Dooku), had no problems dealing with General Grievous, easily the most physically strong fighter in the movies, if he had problem with Anakin, he should have even bigger problems with Grievous and yet he didn't. Anakin won so laughably easy, because of combination of strength, speed, skill, stamina......(his Force reserve is the biggest, i mean, he tires the slowest in the movies), his blows were just so fast and powerful, Dooku didn't have the time to do anything, but to defend for his very life(and Dooku can contend with Yodas sped). Like Gideon said about Yoda, that he becomes a whirlwind of destruction, Anakin is even worst. Dooku got overwhelmed, yea, Maul is more physically more powerful then Dooku and maybe he would do better then Dooku, but not enough, for even a walk in the park defeat. Anakin is just so unstoppable.
Yes, Anakin wins but he by no means pwns. Maul bested the Order's finest swordsman (Anoon Bondara). He fought one of the Order's best swordsman and that Jedi's strong apprentice 2 on 1, when not at full strength, and nearly won. And he almost killed Sidious in a lightsaber duel, most of us think ROTS Anakin could likely beat Sidious in a saber duel but that it'd be close. So yeah, Anakin wins, but with a little bit of difficulty.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, Anakin wins but he by no means pwns. Maul bested the Order's finest swordsman (Anoon Bondara). He fought one of the Order's best swordsman and that Jedi's strong apprentice 2 on 1, when not at full strength, and nearly won. And he almost killed Sidious in a lightsaber duel, most of us think ROTS Anakin could likely beat Sidious in a saber duel but that it'd be close. So yeah, Anakin wins, but with a little bit of difficulty.
This is true.
Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, Anakin wins but he by no means pwns. Maul bested the Order's finest swordsman (Anoon Bondara). He fought one of the Order's best swordsman and that Jedi's strong apprentice 2 on 1, when not at full strength, and nearly won. And he almost killed Sidious in a lightsaber duel, most of us think ROTS Anakin could likely beat Sidious in a saber duel but that it'd be close. So yeah, Anakin wins, but with a little bit of difficulty.
This is true.
It's already been done, but I feel like saying it:
Anakin would probably have a harder time with Maul than Dooku. No, I don't think that Maul>>>>Dooku. In Star Wars, A being greater than B and B being greater than C rarely means that A is greater than C. Anakin would have a harder time with Maul due simply to the way they fight.
Dooku is older, obviously. He fights with a style revolving highly around finesse. He relies on a combination quick, highly accurate strikes to disable his opponents (As shown in AotC when fighting Obi-Wan), and Force techniques (As shown when fighting Obi-Wan in RotS). However, seeing as he's older now, he lacks the brute power that certain others such as Anakin and Maul. When faced with someone who has a lot of brute power but not nearly enough skill, such as Anakin in AotC, this isn't a problem. But against opponents like Maul or RotS Anakin who have not only the brute strength, but more than enough skill, he's at a severe disadvantage. Especially considering that both Anakin and Maul are not only highly skilled with sabers, but that they're pretty advanced in terms of hand-to-hand and some grappling abilities.
This means that not only can they overpower a style like Dooku's by putting raw power behind lightsaber strikes (As Anakin tends to do), but he's very poorly defended against simple hand-to-hand attacks. This is clearly shown when Anakin (While in a saber lock, IIRC) grabs his wrists, pulls him forward, and twirls his saber to cut off his hands. He spent time overpowering Dooku with the saber, and finished it by using brute strength, only using his saber to cut off Dooku's hands.
Now, against Maul, this simply wouldn't be as effective. Dooku was physically weaker than Anakin, and as such Anakin had a rather easy time overpowering him with raw physical strength. Maul, on the other hand, is probably just as strong as Anakin (Excluding Anakin's mechanical arm), and as such Anakin wouldn't be able to simply overpower him. Likewise, while Maul might be able to physically overpower Dooku, he couldn't do so with Anakin. With that in mind, it comes down to a matter of saber skill, and Force strength/skill. They both display similar types of Force abilities (Push, grab, etc, etc.), but Anakin has the advantage in power here. Both of them also seem to use rather aggressive saber styles (IIRC, Anakin uses Djem So and Maul uses Juyo style slightly altered for a double-bladed saber).
So in the end, my vote goes towards this:
Force only: Anakin pwns. They haven't displayed too many abilities, but Anakin has much more raw power.
Saber only: It could go either way. Both of them use aggressive styles, both of them have a lot of raw physical strength, and both of them are highly skilled in their styles.
All out: Anakin owns, but probably not quite as easily as he would if it was using the Force only.
I don't remember Grievous ditching his saber attacks for the sake of grabbing Dooku with his bare hands and yanking him forward...
Anakin wasn't just stronger. He used that strength with more than just lightsaber strikes. Grievous on the other hand seemed to rely almost completely on his lightsabers unless he lost them.
Ok, i have to say it: people say that anakin had great physical strength, that's why he beat dooku. But i mean anakin is, well, a bit slim... I mean, look at him in the AOTC, he is almost pathetically skinny, and even with the hours he had in the gym between the 2nd and the 3rd film, he is still hardly an average man in muscle mass (hardly, because he still quite slim, just seem him shirtless, when he wakes up after the nightmare from padme dying). So, i never understood this "physical power" crap. If you say to me that anakin used his great force power to amplify his strength, i could easily understand how he beat dooku, but now to say that anakin beat dooku with physical strength when grievous couldn't do it to dooku...
You are confusing a movie with reality. What i am saying is that, in reality, Hayden is far from being a muscular guy, so what i am saying is that i think it's hilarious to say that anakin's strength came from his "great physic". I simply think it's much more logical to say that his strength is great because he uses the force to amplify it...
Originally posted by kamhal
You are confusing a movie with reality. What i am saying is that, in reality, Hayden is far from being a muscular guy, so what i am saying is that i think it's hilarious to say that anakin's strength came from his "great physic". I simply think it's much more logical to say that his strength is great because he uses the force to amplify it...
Depends on how you define muscular. He's just not overtly so. Wiry, perhaps.
Originally posted by kamhal
You are confusing a movie with reality. What i am saying is that, in reality, Hayden is far from being a muscular guy, so what i am saying is that i think it's hilarious to say that anakin's strength came from his "great physic". I simply think it's much more logical to say that his strength is great because he uses the force to amplify it...
So for Anakin to be physically strong,Haden has to on steroids. 🙂
So for Anakin to be physically strong,Haden has to on steroids.
You completly misunderstood me. I am not saying Anakin had to be a bodybuilder or something, but you have to agree that he is hardly an average man when it cames with muscle mass, and it's the muscles from a person's body who gave him his physical strength.
Look whatever, Anakin wins, end of the story.
Two words that destroy the "Anakin can't be as physically strong because he doesn't have crazy muscles" theory:
Cloud. Strife.
Now, to elaborate for anyone who doesn't know about Cloud Strife, Cloud is a relatively non-muscular character in a fictional universe who's capable of lifting a huge iron sword thats about as tall as he is with one hand like it was a stick. The basic point here: This is a fictional universe. In fiction, muscle mass =/= power. As a matter of fact, the skinny guy is often capable of ripping the buff guy in half in fiction. This isn't as common in Star Wars, but even then it's still a fictional universe, and therefore saying "It can't be like that because it doesn't work that way in real life" isn't a very valid argument.
Originally posted by VinCon01✅ And FFVII rules.
Two words that destroy the "Anakin can't be as physically strong because he doesn't have crazy muscles" theory:Cloud. Strife.
Now, to elaborate for anyone who doesn't know about Cloud Strife, Cloud is a relatively non-muscular character in a fictional universe who's capable of lifting a huge iron sword thats about as tall as he is with one hand like it was a stick. The basic point here: This is a fictional universe. In fiction, muscle mass =/= power. As a matter of fact, the skinny guy is often capable of ripping the buff guy in half in fiction. This isn't as common in Star Wars, but even then it's still a fictional universe, and therefore saying "It can't be like that because it doesn't work that way in real life" isn't a very valid argument.