Batman and Wolverine vs Black Panther and Captain America

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Wolverine..... 🙂

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Sure, np.

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Reflex feat then a speed feat.

Not to mention again surprising some one with your speed ( reflex really) does not make you faster.

Black panther did it in contast of champions issue 3 and then it turned out Logan was as fast if not faster and slammed black panther to the ground.

So yup complete useless evidence and is not a speed feat.

Surprising an opponent with one speed does not equate to faster. Not sure how you can’t get that through your skull.

Now actually post a feat of black panther beating a meta by use of speed.

All You have manage to prove is Black panther who Logans only had one interaction with was able to surprize him whoopy.

[QUOTE=9125829]Originally posted by Apolloknight
I know, too bad Black Panther was to fast for Iron fist land any of them Herc shattering blows on him until the end of the fight, when Panther thought it was all over. Remember capt, Iron fist did not hit panther at all until panther thought it was all over.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
But don't get mad at me, get mad at Christopher Priest, and whoever the Editor was on the issue, they wrote it, I didn't, tell them it was Bull shit. and they'll probably say something like

"I'm a marvel writer, you just read what I write, go away now"

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Well, at one time wolverine was a peak human, and some writer decided to say, "hey guys, I'm gonna upgrade wolverine, make him immortal, make his healing factor unreal, make him a master Martial artist OK"

Originally posted by Apolloknight
It happens cap, characters get upgraded all the time. Oh and Hudlin isn't the only one who think hes Superhuman, Editors, you know the guys who keep the writers in check and tell them what the can and cant do on every single comic issue, also think BP is superhuman. Editors and writers, do write the marvel bios you know (Not that I agree with how fast they have BP and wolverine, just saying those writers and editors think there are pretty fast also!!!)

Again editor mean nothing. They let the stupid shit go by. It the writers that matter and you have one writer opinion which contradict every other writers opinion not to mention no reason for the up grade.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
This is why This forum bothers me. HYPOCRISY is unreal these days.

Cap you just tooled yourself right here, First you disclaim beast saying himself, that BP is as fast as him, remember, beast in a fight against panther, said this.

Then you turn around and say, the x-men thinking wolverine moved like beast is ok.

wow...

If it said all the time then fine it true, but one random comment means squat for the most part.

Also The example I used was bad since well it was one person saying it. It was person after person thinking it all around new york.

Originally posted by capt it up
Retarded bullshit that know one listens to because I am a F A G

Originally posted by capt it up
Again Black panther was still hit……and again if IF was using as much power as you say Black panther should be dead. Not to mention IF was fighting mind controlled and sloopy…….Logan foughten his entire team to a stand still while they were mind controlled………

Thats a horrible argument, I think mind control is one of the only ways writers had to have best friends/hero's fight each other. I think in no way was Iron fist fighting sloppy. My whole thing is if both fighters are written to their full potential, then so be it.

I mean, Daredevil and BP fought one time, and BP was mind control, he was fighting it hard, and told Daredevil, the only reason that he hadn't killed him yet was because he was fighting the mind control.

Also, BP has defeated the entire New warriors line up, with no prep, no mind control, just straight up beat them in a fist fight.

Originally posted by capt it up

You think black panther talking on silver surfer was good writing don’t you lol..

NO, actually, I thought it was horrible, and I actually sent an email to Mcduffie telling I thought it was, he gave me a decent reply back also.

I'm a black panther fan, but not a fanboy.

Originally posted by capt it up

First off Logan has never been peak-human. He originally had sipderman stats in every area. Logan past was reconned entirely and he was given a healing factor. He was said to be immortal since his first mini if not earlier. So really this is not helping you and Logan up grades to his healing factor were explained.

Still, wolverine was upgraded wasn't he, explained or not, he was upgraded throughout the years, my point still stands.

Originally posted by capt it up

Actually the bio state Black panther as peakhuman…………

Again editor mean nothing. They let the stupid shit go by. It the writers that matter and you have one writer opinion which contradict every other writers opinion not to mention no reason for the up grade.

Yup, Bios of the past, did you miss the whole part where I said he was upgraded, because the 2007 bio has him at superhuman.

Originally posted by capt it up

Again editor mean nothing. They let the stupid shit go by. It the writers that matter and you have one writer opinion which contradict every other writers opinion not to mention no reason for the up grade.

Editors>>>>>>>>You. Current Writer of said superhero>>>>>Any writer who isn't writing said Superhero.

Originally posted by capt it up

you missed my point. My point was what characters say mean nothing it there feats that matter.

If it said all the time then fine it true, but one random comment means squat for the most part.

Also The example I used was bad since well it was one person saying it. It was person after person thinking it all around new york.

Understood, what characters say can be hyperbole, I understand that whole concept.........

Only thing is, Black Panther and beast where fighting, Black Panther was hanging from the celling swinging beast in a leg lock around his neck and thats when beast said what he said.

There for, in this case, There is a feat, to back up the words.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Thats a horrible argument, I think mind control is one of the only ways writers had to have best friends/hero\'s fight each other. I think in no way was Iron fist fighting sloppy. My whole thing is if both fighters are written to their full potential, then so be it.

I mean, Daredevil and BP fought one time, and BP was mind control, he was fighting it hard, and told Daredevil, the only reason that he hadn\'t killed him yet was because he was fighting the mind control.

Also, BP has defeated the entire New warriors line up, with no prep, no mind control, just straight up beat them in a fist fight.

NO, actually, I thought it was horrible, and I actually sent an email to Mcduffie telling I thought it was, he gave me a decent reply back also.

I\'m a black panther fan, but not a fanboy.

Still, wolverine was upgraded wasn\'t he, explained or not, he was upgraded throughout the years, my point still stands.

Yup, Bios of the past, did you miss the whole part where I said he was upgraded, because the 2007 bio has him at superhuman.

Editors>>>>>>>>You. Current Writer of said superhero>>>>>Any writer who isn\'t writing said Superhero.

Understood, what characters say can be hyperbole, I understand that whole concept.........

Only thing is, Black Panther and beast where fighting, Black Panther was hanging from the celling swinging beast in a leg lock around his neck and thats when beast said what he said.

There for, in this case, There is a feat, to back up the words.

Dude. Okay, I'm not a huge fan of Capt if up, but I think he deserves a bit more respect than your crap...

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Thats a horrible argument, I think mind control is one of the only ways writers had to have best friends/hero's fight each other. I think in no way was Iron fist fighting sloppy. My whole thing is if both fighters are written to their full potential, then so be it.

I mean, Daredevil and BP fought one time, and BP was mind control, he was fighting it hard, and told Daredevil, the only reason that he hadn't killed him yet was because he was fighting the mind control.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Also, BP has defeated the entire New warriors line up, with no prep, no mind control, just straight up beat them in a fist fight. .

Originally posted by Apolloknight
NO, actually, I thought it was horrible, and I actually sent an email to Mcduffie telling I thought it was, he gave me a decent reply back also.

I'm a black panther fan, but not a fanboy.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Still, wolverine was upgraded wasn't he, explained or not, he was upgraded throughout the years, my point still stands.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Yup, Bios of the past, did you miss the whole part where I said he was upgraded, because the 2007 bio has him at superhuman.

Also it useless information that unusable on the forums but I still like to know the name of the bio.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Editors>>>>>>>>You. Current Writer of said superhero>>>>>Any writer who isn't writing said Superhero. .

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Understood, what characters say can be hyperbole, I understand that whole concept.........

Only thing is, Black Panther and beast where fighting, Black Panther was hanging from the celling swinging beast in a leg lock around his neck and thats when beast said what he said.

There for, in this case, There is a feat, to back up the words.

Originally posted by capt it up
What MA feats does capt have that are better...not to mention capt did not fair well vs a tired and worn out wolverine..........

Ermm that was PIS. Cap uses skill and intelligence far more than Wolverine does. Wolverine is starving and hasnt slept for days and manages to outsmart him...PIS. Besides many people on this forum think that origins was bad writing. Is it true Wolverine tackled Cyclops and he started crying like a b*tch.?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ermm that was PIS. Cap uses skill and intelligence far more than Wolverine does. Wolverine is starving and hasnt slept for days and manages to outsmart him...PIS. Besides many people on this forum think that origins was bad writing. Is it true Wolverine tackled Cyclops and he started crying like a b*tch.?

False Logan never tackled cyclopes and cyclopes never cryed.............

Originally posted by capt it up
there wa snothing PIS about it. It made Logan on equal footings with capt. Ther enothing PIS about Logan out fighting capt. Logan is at least as skilled as capt. Logan winning was not even close to PIS. It just your bias opinion that thinks so.

False Logan never tackled cyclopes and cyclopes never cryed.............

It was PIS and he said outsmarting not outfighting numbnuts.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
It was PIS and he said outsmarting not outfighting numbnuts.

Logan also extremely intelligent.

all your doing is being bias and calling PIS on a fight that clearly was not PIS. There was nothing close to PIS about it.

Originally posted by capt it up
he out fought him. By attacking him through a blood clot. There was nothing PIS about it. Logan skills and tatics are amopung some of the best in the world as is his training, but of course you would not know that.

Logan also extremely intelligent.

all your doing is being bias and calling PIS on a fight that clearly was not PIS. There was nothing close to PIS about it.

Put you banner down for a second. Your boy was starving he wasn't 100% and he is going to outsmart Cap in a fight, whom by the uses his brain wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better then anyone including logan when he fights.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Put you banner down for a second. Your boy was starving he wasn't 100% and he is going to outsmart Cap in a fight, whom by the uses his brain wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better then anyone including logan when he fights.

Your whole reasoning is a bunch of bias crap because your mad your boy got out fought.

If Logan was 100% it would not have been a fight capt stand little to no chance vs Logan who at a 100%.

Originally posted by capt it up
Umm not being 100% does not effect your brain........only your body. If any thing it force you to think harder while in combat becuase you know you can't take as much punishment. Capt not Logan superior in skill he his equal. There was nothing wrong with Logan beating capt. Logan knows far more styles he far more likly to pull out a move capt does not know then vice ver and thats what he did.

Your whole reasoning is a bunch of bias crap because your mad your boy got out fought.

If Logan was 100% it would not have been a fight capt stand little to no chance vs Logan who at a 100%.

Yes it does and the fact that you would say that make me not take anything you say seriously. Have you ever tried to take a test or right an essay when you haven't eating in two days. Try it sometime and get back to me then.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Yes it does and the fact that you would say that make me not take anything you say seriously. Have you ever tried to take a test or right an essay when you haven't eating in two days. Try it sometime and get back to me then.

So again your simply making excuses and being bias because your boy got beat.

Logan in a weak state was the only way to make the fight fair. Logan with out a healing factor pritty much is capt. ecpt he more willing to kill and knows more styles.

There pritty much equals other then healing factor. Thge only way to make a fair fight between the two is for Logan to be in a weak stated Like he was. His healing factor was very weakened, but mentally there was nothign wrong with him. He was the same as he always is. Have you ever even read the issue? Nope clearly you have not if You think it PIS because Logan was hungry.

Go read a wolverien comic then get back to me.

Oh by the way Logan at 100% would tool on capt. There really not a thing capt could do to him.

Originally posted by capt it up
Thats not fighting. Your a normal human Logans not. Logan has gone a month with out food and was fighting constantly. He did not lose any skill he was simply not 100 percent physically. Your talkign about a man who in order to fight has to hurt him self every time. You act Like beign hungry will effect him mentally. If beying stabbed gutten and so on does not effect him mentally then being hungry sure as shit won't.

So again your simply making excuses and being bias because your boy got beat.

Logan in a weak state was the only way to make the fight fair. Logan with out a healing factor pritty much is capt. ecpt he more willing to kill and knows more styles.

There pritty much equals other then healing factor. Thge only way to make a fair fight between the two is for Logan to be in a weak stated Like he was. His healing factor was very weakened, but mentally there was nothign wrong with him. He was the same as he always is. Have you ever even read the issue? Nope clearly you have not if You think it PIS because Logan was hungry.

Go read a wolverien comic then get back to me.

Oh by the way Logan at 100% would tool on capt. There really not a thing capt could do to him.

Look I don't know how old you are but from your post I have gathered that I am older and more experience then so I will just say this. Having been in the Marine Corps and being placed in actual combat you do not fight or think as well when you hungry or tired period. There is no way Logan was outsmarting or out fighting Cap in that situation. No go play with transformer or something. 😂

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Look I don't know how old you are but from your post I have gathered that I am older and more experience then so I will just say this. Having been in the Marine Corps and being placed in actual combat you do not fight or think as well when you hungry or tired period. There is no way Logan was outsmarting or out fighting Cap in that situation. No go play with transformer or something. 😂

First off your body will get use to the lack of food over time and your mental state will not be effected.

Logan for one never stated he was hungry. WE do know he had not eaten in weaks which effected his healing factor making it on a very low level. Logan is not a human comparing him to real world humans is rediculous. Your superior then thou attitude is not only old, but unneeded since your a complete fool and bring nothing valuable to any conversation. You have no evdience you call things pis with any good comic evidence to suport such claims. It harder to think when your in pain then it is when your hungry or tired. Logan is in constant pain while his claws are exstanded and yet he never has problem thinking. Why would being hungry make him unable to think or fight when pain does not? Comic evidence shows us that Logan's tactical abitlies and fighting skills are not effected by pain let a lone hunger. So really you have nothing and your whole arguement is one bias claim after another.

How many times to you need to be shown to look the fool before you stop?

I don't believe you were ever in combat or in the marines nor would that matter since this is not a gun fight it h2h match which is completely different.

Originally posted by capt it up
From my post you got that your older and mroe experiencd then me? Who the f do you think you are? You had nothing so you came up with a lame ass excuse how wonderful.

First off your body will get use to the lack of food over time and your mental state will not be effected.

Logan for one never stated he was hungry. WE do know he had not eaten in weaks which effected his healing factor making it on a very low level. Logan is not a human comparing him to real world humans is rediculous. Your superior then thou attitude is not only old, but unneeded since your a complete fool and bring nothing valuable to any conversation. You have no evdience you call things pis with any good comic evidence to suport such claims. It harder to think when your in pain then it is when your hungry or tired. Logan is in constant pain while his claws are exstanded and yet he never has problem thinking. Why would being hungry make him unable to think or fight when pain does not? Comic evidence shows us that Logan's tactical abitlies and fighting skills are not effected by pain let a lone hunger. So really you have nothing and your whole arguement is one bias claim after another.

How many times to you need to be shown to look the fool before you stop?

I don't believe you were ever in combat or in the marines nor would that matter since this is not a gun fight it h2h match which is completely different.

I didn't even read your post because your an idiot whom cant even comprehend simple logic. So I'm really not wasting time with you and your oh so important debating skills. <------------------lol. If you can't acknowledged that your brain and body doesn't work as well when your tired and hungry theres nothing to talk about.

Black Panther and Captain America 7/10.

Better team work, the two have fought together for years. T'Challa also has his anti-metal claws that would utterly wreck Logan, Captain America could hold off Batman until Wolverine goes down and they both team up against Bruce.

Originally posted by capt it up
Umm not being 100% does not effect your brain........only your body. If any thing it force you to think harder while in combat becuase you know you can't take as much punishment.

Cap, you can post some of the most ignorant statements at times.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Cap, you can post some of the most ignorant statements at times.