Space Pirates(Metroid) vs. Covenant(Halo)
While it's pretty much agreed that Samus>Master Chief but what about the forces that they fight against? This will be an all out galactic war. Anything that has ever been on one of the sides will be allowed to be used in this debate. In example even tho the last Pirate Elites and Omega Pirate are dead I will allow them to be used. I personally believe Space Pirates will win. Now debate.
Originally posted by Superboy Prime
I really don't know much about the Space Pirates. Didn't play MP2 or any other Metroid after the first gamecube title(which was awesome)The Covenant are a force to reckon with, but they are also gullible. They also have terrible strategic minds when it comes to land fighting(the marines actually outclass them in this regard) However their technology is uber. They can pretty much glass a planet without trying.
Can the Space Pirates pull something like that off?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm not a huge SP expert but they have huge fleets and have extremely advanced tech. They have found ways using phazon(I think that's what it's called) to mutate and enhance the strength of ordinary pirates. They also have made technology that can warp through space(not outer space, the OTHER space) to teleport and use it while fighting. They have cloaking tech that is IMO superior to that of the Covenant.
While the Covenant have poor land-based military; they have tremendous fleet-wars strategies and the humans have a hard time making it out of any encounter in space alive.
Do the Space Pirates have planet busting capabilities?
Originally posted by Violent2Dope😄
I'm not a huge SP expert but they have huge fleets and have extremely advanced tech. They have found ways using phazon(I think that's what it's called) to mutate and enhance the strength of ordinary pirates. They also have made technology that can warp through space(not outer space, the OTHER space) to teleport and use it while fighting. They have cloaking tech that is IMO superior to that of the Covenant.
The Covenant are great when dealing with fleets, but the Space Pirates would inevitably bring the battle planetside.
There, the Pirates would be fully capable of deploying any of their bioengineered genetic experiments, and most likely a cadre or two of captured Metroids. The Metroids alone could probably devastate a large portion of the Covenant forces on their own.
I think it'd be a great battle to see. The Pirates would eventually win.
In terms of individual soldier strength, I say SP are better. There normal units have both blasters for ranged combat and scythes for melee. Metroids would pose a real problem for them as they would have no way to get them off of them like Samus does. Also the heavy troops on each side, Elite Pirates for SP and Hunters for Covenant, the Elites have more available weapons and are larger and maybe stronger.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
The Covenant are great when dealing with fleets, but the Space Pirates would inevitably bring the battle planetside.
The Covenant don't role that way. Rather, they prefer to avoid landside battles and just glass the planet. Either way, the Covenant win.
The Covenant win because, (This is general consensus) The Covenant own the skies. Whoever owns the skies owns the battlefield, which is why despite the SPARTANS effectiveness the UNSC loses almost every battle, wither or not the Covenant lose on the ground or not is irrelevant, as they're going to just glass the planet anyway.
Are the novels the games?
Is this the book vs. forum?
It was established long ago, back in the epic Samus vs. Chief thread, that for the intents and purposes of this forum the Halo novels are irrelevant.
And thanks to Judgement mentioning Kraid... what about Ridley? He could burn his way through plenty of the Covenant on his own.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
It was established long ago, back in the epic Samus vs. Chief thread, that for the intents and purposes of this forum the Halo novels are irrelevant.
We're talking the characters in games vs characters in other games, Kaliero, not the actual games themselves. Fictional video game character vs. another. Any source of information, providing it is legitimate and approved by the game creators themselves, is viable. I wouldn't dispute your ability to use the Metroid graphic novel, for instance, to provide a better background and technical info on Samus's abilities.
If they are moot to you, then you'd better have a very good reason why.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
And thanks to Judgement mentioning Kraid... what about Ridley? He could burn his way through plenty of the Covenant on his own.
Originally posted by General Kaliero
The Covenant are great when dealing with fleets, but the Space Pirates would inevitably bring the battle planetside.There, the Pirates would be fully capable of deploying any of their bioengineered genetic experiments, and most likely a cadre or two of captured Metroids. The Metroids alone could probably devastate a large portion of the Covenant forces on their own.
I think it'd be a great battle to see. The Pirates would eventually win.
Like the Covenant would be stupid enough to fight on the planet if they know they can't win. This is what happens a lot between the marines and the Covenant. The marines would be capable of holding back the Covenant so they would retreat to their fleet and just nuke the entire planet.
I say the Covenant easily outnumbers the Space Pirates.
Originally posted by ESB -1138How? The Space Pirates suffer defeat after defeat from Samus and stuff but are still strong. And even if that's true the singular units are stronger than the singular covenant units. And when it comes to a space fight I'm pretty sure Ridley by himself could probably take out one ship by his damn self. If they were to let loose Metroids on a ship then everyone who was on that ship would die except for possibly the Hunters(because since they're immune to the Flood they may be immune to Metroids).
I say the Covenant easily outnumbers the Space Pirates.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
How? The Space Pirates suffer defeat after defeat from Samus and stuff but are still strong. And even if that's true the singular units are stronger than the singular covenant units. And when it comes to a space fight I'm pretty sure Ridley by himself could probably take out one ship by his damn self. If they were to let loose Metroids on a ship then everyone who was on that ship would die except for possibly the Hunters(because since they're immune to the Flood they may be immune to Metroids).
The Covenant are not as weak as you make them out to be. Because the Master Chief managed to kill hordes of Covenant does not make them weaklings. Oh and congrats Ridley MAY be able to take out one ship but he only has another billion to go. Samus alone is capable of killing Ridley so you throw in billions of Brutes, Hunters, Elites, Grunts, Jackals, and Drones Ridley would get WTFpwned.
And the Flood managed to overrun a small group of Covenant. When it comes down to the full Covenant force the Flood (and Metroids) wouldn't stand a slight chance.
And really how many Space Pirates has Samus killed throughout her games? I doubt they equal the amount Master Chief has killed in the two Halo games alone and yet the Covenant still holds a number to great to count.