Space Pirates(Metroid) vs. Covenant(Halo)

Originally posted by ESB -1138
The Covenant are not as weak as you make them out to be. Because the Master Chief managed to kill hordes of Covenant does not make them weaklings. Oh and congrats Ridley MAY be able to take out one ship but he only has another billion to go. Samus alone is capable of killing Ridley so you throw in billions of Brutes, Hunters, Elites, Grunts, Jackals, and Drones Ridley would get WTFpwned.

And the Flood managed to overrun a small group of Covenant. When it comes down to the full Covenant force the Flood (and Metroids) wouldn't stand a slight chance.

And really how many Space Pirates has Samus killed throughout her games? I doubt they equal the amount Master Chief has killed in the two Halo games alone and yet the Covenant still holds a number to great to count.

The Space Pirates are better tech wise, but the problem is I don't think that there is enough Pirates. The Covenant troops would lose on a 1 vs 1 confrontation, but the SP just don't have enough troops to win an all out war. So by default the Covanant wins due to sheer numbers. If you gave the SP the same numbers they would win though, the Covenant wouldn't stand a chance.

Originally posted by ((The_Anomaly))
The Space Pirates are better tech wise, but the problem is I don't think that there is enough Pirates. The Covenant troops would lose on a 1 vs 1 confrontation, but the SP just don't have enough troops to win an all out war. So by default the Covanant wins due to sheer numbers. If you gave the SP the same numbers they would win though, the Covenant wouldn't stand a chance.

Master Chief killed more then a thousand Covanent units by himself BEFORE the first game even started. Yet The Covanenet sill have over a billion ships and more twice as much ground units.

Even tho they may be outnumbered the power of their individual troops is much greater than that of the covenant. And does anyone know how large the Space Pirates actually are compared to The Covenant?

How do you know that that Pirates are superior one on one? They both get killed by the hundreds every game, and so far from what I've seen the Covanenet are stronger, seeing as how it has been recorded that the plasma from there guns is hotter then the sun.

It was established long ago, back in the epic Samus vs. Chief thread, that for the intents and purposes of this forum the Halo novels are irrelevant.

The MC people were desperate for a victory in the debate, so they went and whined to Lana, and she has declared that the Halo novels can now be used as canon sources in all Halo related debates. Sucks, I know, I hate the books but rules are rules...

Goddamn the books always **** things up. And individually SPs are stronger and they also have more different kinds of troops. Normal troops are offered with automatic blasters that don't overheat and scythes for melee. They have Shadow Pirates that can become invisible and also use their scythes and can scale the ceiling and walls(I'm pretty sure they can, if I'm wrong tell me). They have Pirate Commandos that can phase in and out of realitie which is pretty much teleportation and they also wield EMPs. Their air pirates have blasters and rockets and if close to death will kamikaze you. They also have underwater versions of these. Their Elite Pirates are big and strong and have a shoulder blaster, can create shockwaves, and can absorb energy weapon fire. They have Metroids which absorb the life from their victims and grow larger. Hunter Metroids are stronger and have tentacles to absorb from a longer range, and fission Metroids multiply and can only be hurt by a certain type of wep. How are covenant troops stronger again?

Originally posted by Xenogears
The Covenant.

not unless they activate halo

~the halo activating hand of judgement

The Covanent would win.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Okay dude never said the covenant were weak and never said that SPs would win with just Ridley and Metroids. And remember this isn't one epic space battle this is all out war. Metroids are also much stronger than the Flood. And saying MC has killed more Covenant than MC is pure speculation and is not relevant to this debate at all. Matter of fact if that's true all that does is show that SPs are indeed stronger in that Samus would beat MC.

Considering what that a Covenant fleet whipped out Reach and that wasn't even a fraction of the Covenant's full force I would say that Space Pirates are vastly outnumbered. And number helps in a full blown galactic war.

Candy Mountain

~The candy-eating SPARTAN-II

Once again does anyone have some idea on how large the SP are to the Covenant?

Space Pirates Take This easy.
They Have all kinds of Different Pirates that can only be hurt by a special sort of weapon.
SP's have Far more better Technology then the Dumb-Dumb Covenant's (who are fighting each others all the time).
And lets not Forget about Meta Ridley and Omega Pirates, They are hard son of a Bi*ches to take out, and with wrong Equip it would be useless to even try.

Originally posted by Swe_Bum
Space Pirates Take This easy.
They Have all kinds of Different Pirates that can only be hurt by a special sort of weapon.
SP's have Far more better Technology then the Dumb-Dumb Covenant's (who are fighting each others all the time).
And lets not Forget about Meta Ridley and Omega Pirates, They are hard son of a Bi*ches to take out, and with wrong Equip it would be useless to even try.

We've never been given exact numbers for the Pirates. However, we do know they have a large fleet, large enough to make them a serious menace throughout the galaxy. And their race as a whole is evidently massive, given their readiness to experiment on themselves and their young.

All the Pirates met in Metroid Prime came from only the single frigate Orpheon, so it seems each frigate carries enough numbers to set up and maintain several bases of operation: Magmoor, Phendrana, and the Phazon Mines. Keep in mind also that the Pirates had already suffered severe losses to their genetic experimentation and Metroid-related accidents, and it would appear a single Pirate frigate carries an extremely large force indeed.

Since we know Corruption takes place across several planets instead of just one, and all under direct assault by the Pirates, it's likely that game will show more Pirates than have been seen before.

Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I agree with all this except the part about the covenant being dumb and SP takin it easy. I think this is a good war/battle.

Originally posted by General Kaliero
We've never been given exact numbers for the Pirates. However, we do know they have a large fleet, large enough to make them a serious menace throughout the galaxy. And their race as a whole is evidently massive, given their readiness to experiment on themselves and their young.

All the Pirates met in Metroid Prime came from only the single frigate Orpheon, so it seems each frigate carries enough numbers to set up and maintain several bases of operation: Magmoor, Phendrana, and the Phazon Mines. Keep in mind also that the Pirates had already suffered severe losses to their genetic experimentation and Metroid-related accidents, and it would appear a single Pirate frigate carries an extremely large force indeed.

Since we know Corruption takes place across several planets instead of just one, and all under direct assault by the Pirates, it's likely that game will show more Pirates than have been seen before.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
While the Covenant have poor land-based military; they have tremendous fleet-wars strategies and the humans have a hard time making it out of any encounter in space alive.

Do the Space Pirates have planet busting capabilities?

Do the Covenant have reverse engineering?

Chat about Planet-Glassing all you want, but the Space Pirates have various and numerous planets they may retreat to. The Covenant may have the superior numbers, but their lack of technology and intelligence leaves them susceptible to mass attacks from Pirates. Speaking of which Space Pirates don't receive their name from catching the "booty". No, they receive said name for capturing and reverse-engineering numerous space ships the Covenant ships can barely compare to. The time it could take for Master Chief (or any friendly UNSC) to destroy a ship is halved by a single Space Pirate of any type. Even then, the Space Pirates have managed to control the Metroids and use them to their disposal. Once a Metroid claims hold of a Covenant ship, it's gone. No matter how many Covenant ships are at disposal, a single Metroid will eventually destroy them all, considering the fact that Metroids are only vulnerable to ice, which is somehow undiscovered by the Covenant.