Spectacular Spiderman: New Animated TV Show

Originally posted by Arachnid1
First off, in his first showing, he beat both Venom and Spiderman. After, Spidey and Venom had to CONTSTANTLY team up to fight carnage. The times that Venom beat carnage either included a weakened Carnage or loads of PIS due to fan base, the hero factor, and some major jobbing. And you said that that was the only time Carnage beat Venom? I don't think so. Let me find a carnage respect thread.

Actually, Carnage didn't beat Venom and Spiderman, it's not like they were KOed or anything. And not constantly. They jumped him couple of times, he was throwing them aroung and kept running using a baby and later Jameson as human shields. In the end Venom showed a better resistance to sound though.
The time where Venom beat a weakened Carnage was in "maximum Carnage" but Venom was weakened himself after hours (days?) of torture, so don't put this victory on Kassidy's mental problems (which according to him didn't effect his strength and speed)
And the claim that ALL other Venom victories (and there were 5) were due to PIS jobbing or fanbase is not based on anything.
From time to time Venom's been proving that he is a better and stronger fighter.

Originally posted by Sam Z
Actually, Carnage didn't beat Venom and Spiderman, it's not like they were KOed or anything. And not constantly. They jumped him couple of times, he was throwing them aroung and kept running using a baby and later Jameson as human shields. In the end Venom showed a better resistance to sound though.
The time where Venom beat a weakened Carnage was in "maximum Carnage" but Venom was weakened himself after hours (days?) of torture, so don't put this victory on Kassidy's mental problems (which according to him didn't effect his strength and speed)
And the claim that ALL other Venom victories (and there were 5) were due to PIS jobbing or fanbase is not based on anything.
From time to time Venom's been proving that he is a better and stronger fighter.

Originally posted by Arachnid1
Man, I hate the carnage Venom debates. Hold on a second. Its hell trying to find a carnage respect thread.

😄 I know what you mean. So in advantage lets agree to disagree.😄

Unfortunately Carnage RT was poor, I added all the scans I could find but people didn't post there much...🙁

Venom won on his own against Carnage, in fact Venom will ALWAYS win.

Originally posted by Sam Z
😄 I know what you mean. So in advantage lets agree to disagree.😄

Unfortunately Carnage RT was poor, I added all the scans I could find but people didn't post there much...🙁

Its not really all that suprising though. No one really likes carnage much anymore. 🙁

No one liked him from the start.

I always liked Carnage myself, a fun character to read, just good old fashioned smashy character, no fuss. I just wish they would have kept him stronger than Venom, but it seems they changed their mind after his first appearance. I also wish comics would stop saying he was stronger when there isn't evidence to back it up.

That is true, besides Venom has experience, he would beat Carnage ALL the time.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
That is true, besides Venom has experience, he would beat Carnage ALL the time.

Experience, he only had the symbiote about a year or so before Kassidy, how long is it going to take Kassidy before he learns all the symbiotes tricks and exp no loger is a factor?

Carnage is an Idiot, Kassidy thought the word reign was to be in context with rain, exp he is stupid he would never learn any tricks, also Carnage had his symbote absorbed and he was ripped in half, also in many comics, Carnage lost to Venom without any help from Spider-man, Carnage is pathetic nuff said.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Carnage is an Idiot, Kassidy thought the word reign was to be in context with rain, exp he is stupid he would never learn any tricks, also Carnage had his symbote absorbed and he was ripped in half, also in many comics, Carnage lost to Venom without any help from Spider-man, Carnage is pathetic nuff said.

Yes ok Carnage is an idiot, but that doesn't mean he can't master a symbiote, you don't did to be good at talking to know how to use a symbiote to its full effect as the ultimate killing machine.

Thats like saying Wolverine is stupid because he can't tell you all there is to know on physics, but he damn sure is a good tactician.

But Loganis not stupid, now Kassidy is an idiot, one dimensional, boring and a ploy to take peoples money, know that marvel have no need for him he is resting in Villain limbo, where he belongs.

Also your Paragraph made no sense.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
But Loganis not stupid, now Kassidy is an idiot, one dimensional, boring and a ploy to take peoples money, know that marvel have no need for him he is resting in Villain limbo, where he belongs.

Also your Paragraph made no sense.

lol i know it didn't but I'm saying the first things that pop into my head.

yes he is one dimensional, but these characters are good every once in a while, do you always want to read about a complex villain who then learns everything about the hero and then you never hear the end of it for ages, its nice to see a villain totally unrelated to the hero just so you can have a beat down for awhile.

Besides he isn't even completely one dimensional, he was abused by his parents, then they died, he was abused at a foster home constantly, pushed around for being weak and he snapped. He's out killing because of a disturbed childhood.

What about Venom's other children, they would have been great if they were given a chance, they had no chance to show how great they could become.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
What about Venom's other children, they would have been great if they were given a chance, they had no chance to show how great they could become.

i never read the stories with them in, except for the one that appeared when Venom was fighting Scarlet Spider, and she didn't strike me as great.

Scream.

Yeah she was only passing through, in that story.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
Scream.

Yeah she was only passing through, in that story.

Fair enough, didn't like her much, glad she got spanked by Venom.

She got her symbiotic suit ripped right of her.

Ouch Painful.

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
But Loganis not stupid, now Kassidy is an idiot, one dimensional, boring and a ploy to take peoples money, know that marvel have no need for him he is resting in Villain limbo, where he belongs.

Also your Paragraph made no sense.

Also, Harkhalen. Dude. Your getting off subject. Try to stay a little in line dude. 💃

Carnage is an interesting character and he's not an idiot. While Venom uses his powers in a more brutal way than Spiderman, Carnage is an exact opposition of Peter's moral guide that "with great power comes great responsibility" that's what makes Kassidy an interesting character.

But when you guys talk of experience, this isn't about experience in using symbiote, this is about fighting exp in general. Brock is a great fighter capable of taking several armed thugs at once. That's a big advantage...

Originally posted by Neo Darkhalen
She got her symbiotic suit ripped right of her.

Ouch Painful.