Odin vs. Thanos H2H

Originally posted by King Kandy
It doesn't need to be stated... It's the logical conclusion.

Based on what issues is it logically concluded Odin is class 30? Not Thor 349 and the story of Odin,Vili,and Ve.

Not the recent Jurgens run which has Odin one shot koing a near Thor level person.

From the terms before:

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
yeah but I'm going off of them not using any of that. They are just using thier power that they are starting out with. Who would win.

It sounds to me that what is outlawed are things like Odin specifically physically amping for the purpose of grappling with others.

The thing you don't get is that Odin is ALWAYS amped by the Odinforce... Without it he is far from his usual power.

Have you read the origin story related to the Three Brothers?

Actually no. Can you summarise it?

It's complicated and I'm going my memory,but I'll try my best.

Basically,Odin,Vili,& Ve travel to Surtur's land of Muspelheim.It's quoted that they had slain Ymir(who is certainly well above a standard class 100.) Then,it's quoted that they are the Sons of Bur,Grandsons of Buri.And,first of the immortal style Gods.One of the Brothers already demonstrates storm powers.All this,keep in mind,is before Odin gets his Brothers physicality or power.

They combined powers and engage Surtur.After a battle,Surtur's sword is broken and the brothers parted.One brother slashes Surtur's flame mount and Odin casually catches it.Then Odin,in one arm,rides off still holding the Eternal Flame inside the torch head(keep in mind this thing is seemingly larger than Odin himself.) Vili & Ve follow.Upon approaching the exit to Surtur's realm,Odin keeps riding with the flame & torch container still on him.But Vili & Ve stop.Odin looks back and the exit from the realm is gone.A moment later,Odin is now what all three brothers were prior to such.

I just never got the sense that each brother was around a class 10 there before passing on thier abilites to Odin.Nor did I see any reason to feel Odin didn't get their physicality but got everything else.And honestly,given their heritage,I didn't see a reason to think they weren't superior to normal Asgardian farmers and the like,anyway.

Ah,and also see an issue like Thor 355.Where Thor meets what turns out to be his Great Grandfather,Tiwaz.

Superiority to average Asgardians seems to run in the bloodline imo.

Okay, Odin minus amping is above average... But I still don't think he can take out Thanos.

Even if Odin is class 90+, would Thanos be that much lower in the physical strength department? Also It seems to be a trend here to get too hung up on sheer power alone. Look at the Superman vs Thanos H2H threads, rather than focusing on the fact that Thanos has trained in a variety of fighting styles from different parts of the cosmos, everyone was hung up on sheer power alone.

Originally posted by redhotrash
Even if Odin is class 90+, would Thanos be that much lower in the physical strength department? Also It seems to be a trend here to get too hung up on sheer power alone. Look at the Superman vs Thanos H2H threads, rather than focusing on the fact that Thanos has trained in a variety of fighting styles from different parts of the cosmos, everyone was hung up on sheer power alone.

Thanos spent 80 years going to the worst places in the universe to hon his skills

Odin has gone H2H with Thpor and one...but it was stated that Thor held back.

In another issue Loki made Thor evil and Tjor damn near put Odin on his ass in a physical confrontation.

there is lotsa conflicting history in regards to Odins H2H.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Scan of Thanos doing some difficult martial arts stuff ? Issue number ?

You ever watch UFC? If not, take a look and you'll see that the ones who really excel are the ones with superior grappling skills, NOT the ones that like to stand up and fight it out Karate Kid style(I'm talking movie KK, not comic).

Thanos wiull win with no amping alowed...

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think that martial arts are the only fighting styles in the Universe? Thanos uses a fighting style that's suited to his physicality and powers. His fighting like Gamora or Iron Fist would be stupid because he's built differently than they are, and it would look as silly as Hulk Hogan fighting like a luchador. There have been highly skilled wrestlers, boxers, etc. for thousands of years now, and the fact that they didn't do a lot of fancy flips and such doesn't take away from that skill.

You ever watch UFC? If not, take a look and you'll see that the ones who really excel are the ones with superior grappling skills, NOT the ones that like to stand up and fight it out Karate Kid style(I'm talking movie KK, not comic).

All fighting except street brawling and being spastic is considered a MartialArt. Of the H2H fights I've seen Thanos in though I've only seen boxing or wrestling style movements.

Originally posted by darthgoober
What makes you think that martial arts are the only fighting styles in the Universe? Thanos uses a fighting style that's suited to his physicality and powers. His fighting like Gamora or Iron Fist would be stupid because he's built differently than they are, and it would look as silly as Hulk Hogan fighting like a luchador. There have been highly skilled wrestlers, boxers, etc. for thousands of years now, and the fact that they didn't do a lot of fancy flips and such doesn't take away from that skill.

You ever watch UFC? If not, take a look and you'll see that the ones who really excel are the ones with superior grappling skills, NOT the ones that like to stand up and fight it out Karate Kid style(I'm talking movie KK, not comic).

Not one. Based on his fights on panel, he could very well be the worst fighter ever. In most cases, he just stands there, and once in a while he uses his fists - just some ordinary punches, nothing fancy.

So again, why does everybody assume he's this amazing fighter ?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
That's all nice, but until now, I still haven't seen one move of Thanos that made me think : wow, cool.

Not one. Based on his fights on panel, he could very well be the worst fighter ever. In most cases, he just stands there, and once in a while he uses his fists - just some ordinary punches, nothing fancy.

So again, why does everybody assume he's this amazing fighter ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
how isnt he an amazing fighter. he trainderd gamora take on tyrant for shits and giggles and hangs with odin. how with everything thanos has done can someone actually say whats so special about him.

I was very clearly talking about his so-called fighting skills. The fact that he survived Tyrant and Odin has nothing to do with his fighting skills, but everything with his amazing durability and his control over his molecules.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
I said it before and I'll say it again : you - really - have reading problems.

I was very clearly talking about his so-called fighting skills. The fact that he survived Tyrant and Odin has nothing to do with his fighting skills, but everything with his amazing durability and his control over his molecules.

Also true.

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
That's all nice, but until now, I still haven't seen one move of Thanos that made me think : wow, cool.

Not one. Based on his fights on panel, he could very well be the worst fighter ever. In most cases, he just stands there, and once in a while he uses his fists - just some ordinary punches, nothing fancy.

So again, why does everybody assume he's this amazing fighter ?