I thought plagiarism was a serious offense...

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not surprised. You're all seeing and all knowing after all right?

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
It is.Why should a man be selfish and have more then one wife?It is true that if you look in the bible that they did that then.But why should it keep on going?jm

Fantastic. Please tell me you're the greatest sock, to have ever existed....

anyway, back to the issue of legallity, i did in fact bring up the issue of plagiarism laws in the original post. to be clear though, it wasnt my intention to imply that the two are related directly (kids plagiarising in a forum of debate and illegal copyright/intellectual property violation.)

i just feel that a lack honesty on such a basic level, in public interaction, is a sign of poor character and no personal honor nor accountability for one's acts. in short, little frauds grow up to be big frauds. this is not 'kids being kids' imho

No you're right, it's basically kids being completely dishonest and utterly selfish. It's lying at a worse level, as someone's actual work and/or words are at expense.

Being that Plagiarism isn't an issue for little kids and many aren't even aware they're doing it.

It doesn't really matter.

Kids are kids.

The fact that they're not citing really doesn't mean anything. If anything, they're getting in a lot of RESEARCH practice.

I'm not expecting little kids to know the MLA Format and start giving me a page full of citations.

My Conclusion: You're over reacting. They'll learn how to cite soon enough and learn when citing is necessary and when it isn't necessarily necessary but helpful, such as on Forums.

Anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

And then there are the ones who casually brush off accusations. "Well I posted it{credit or the srticles themselves} before in other threads." or "Its italicized, so you should have been able to tell." oir other such dodges where its the fault of the reader for not being able to read the other person's mind.

Thanks for pointing out the conclusion.......

The kids I'm talking about aren't eight, they know what they're doing and they know it's wrong.

honestly though, while I share your guys emotions toward plagiarism, I don't see it as a very prevalent problem. 2damnloud was called on it almost immediately, and I can't think of any respectable posters that have even been accused of it.

It sucks, it is the pinnacle of intellectual dishonesty, we shouldn't believe what people who do it say or respect their opinions, but we can surely do that as a group.

I guess I have to cop-out to the illegal stuff though. If its plagiarizing copyrighted material it is only right that the mods get involved.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Thanks for pointing out the conclusion.......

thats half of all he does

Originally posted by Schecter
thats half of all he does

funny

anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

...and thats the other half.

Originally posted by InnerRise
anata wa wakarimasu ka.....

Translation: I love teh cock.

Originally posted by Schecter

have we as a society grown too lax on this crime? and what of we on this particular forum? do you think this complete lack of any accountability is just an internet thing or is it worse than that? maybe you feel its no big deal at all?

discuss.

Its the internet man...calm down

plagiarism? omgwtfbbq!!!1!

idiots

Originally posted by Schecter
some people mistakenly forget to site a source AND use quotes (imho both are common courtesy unless a source is not relevant). however i have seen blatant acts of copying other people's literal pros and trying to pass them off as their own. when they get caught its just as quickly forgotten and they are allowed to continue debating as if they had credibility...and the kicker is everyone seems to go on entertaining them like it never happened. this blows my mind.

You refering to this?

Originally posted by Schecter
http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/Whiteness/Whitenesstalk.html

word for word

Didnt he get the link from this site?

Originally posted by 2damnloud

The ironic thing is.......

Are you ready for this................?

The guy who wrote that is "white"! http://www.uwm.edu/~gjay/

Originally posted by Alfheim
You refering to this?

i quoted exactly what i referred to.
didnt feel like dragging that argument into the discussion since its irrelevant.

Originally posted by JacopeX
As long as it is being "Quoted", i'm fine with it.

What about when you plagiarized? Where you O.K. with that? How soon we forget.

Just in case you forgot:

[QUOTE]
Originally posted by JacopeX
((heres a story me and ma friends ((Matarrdona000, chica boom1, and el fracasado)) made this shit up.

Hispanic man walks into a cafe one early morning and noticed that he was the only Hispanic man there. As he sat down, he noticed a white man behind him.The white man said, "Colored people are not allowed here." The Hispanic man turned around and stood up. He then said:
"Listen Pendejo....

when i was born, i was tan, "
"When i grew up, i was tan, "
"When i'm sick, i'm tan, "
"When i go in the sun, i'm tan, "
"When I'm cold, i'm tan, "
"When i die, i'll be tan ."
But you pendejo...."

"When you're born, you're pink, "
"When you grow up, you're white, "
"When you're sick, you're green, "
"When you go in the sun, you turn red, "
"When you're cold, you turn blue, "
"And when you die, you turn purple."
"And you have the nerve to call me colored?"

And now the original
(which is at least 6 years older than JacopeX ).

Black and White by Unknown Author

A black man talks to a white man:
When I was born I was black,
When I grew up I was black,
When I'm sick I'm black,
When I go in the sun I'm black,
When I'm cold I'm black,
When I die I'll be black.

But you:
When you're born you're pink,
When you grow up you're white,
When you're sick, you're green,
When you go in the sun you turn red,
When you're cold you turn blue,
and when you die you turn purple.
And you have the nerve to call me colored. [/QUOTE]

Remember that Jaco?

Yo, K to the D, whazzup?!?