proteus w/reality gem vs house of m wanda

Started by GalacticStorm13 pages

In the set of scans above, Heathers multiversal scanners take information from reality and they tell her what has happened. They talk of ONE change at that point and that is Wanda bringing about House of M on Planet Earth. That is ALL that Wanda changed up until that point.

As Heather speaks we see Wanda changing reality once again (therefore for the SECOND time). You see the mutant Beak and Angel caught up in Wandas reality alteration. The issue ends.

Next issue, you see that the change we saw at the end of the prevbious issue was the "No More Mutants Change", therefore another GLOBAL change. Beak is now human, so are some of his previously mutant babies:

No rants. No speculation. Can you show me whereabouts on panel your ALLEGED third change occurred? What happened in this third change YOU describe and once again, WHERE ON PANEL is this third change detailed?

Heathers scanners analysed reality 616 and told us about the HOM reality creation ON THE PLANET. Then as the issue was closing we saw the "No more mutants" change occurring, with the subsequent Exiles issue showing us the result.

The issue summary of Exiles 72 summarizes previous issues and talks of how Wanda warped EARTH 616 to create HOM and then talks of how at the end of the previous issue (where the previous scans are from) Wanda warped EARTH 616 again (so for the second time). Where is the third change?!!!

The "No more mutants" change was the last reality warp Wanda brought about and that was a global change to rid the world of mutants.

It was focused on mutants and was to spite her father, it had nothing to do with anything but Earth.

The intro page to the House of M title, the main title that dealt directly with Wanda and her reality warp talks of how "the WORLD went white" when Wanda brought about the HOM reality and no mention of any other change whatsoever is made until it refers to the "No more mutants" change where once again it states "the WORLD went white"

Heres Hank Pym talking about the GLOBAL effects of the NO more mutants change:

In line with the above, once again please remember how Roma said the HOM conversion was a GLOBAL alteration and the Eye of Agamotto scanned the multiverse and stated plain as day that ALL of Wandas changes were GLOBAL. I’ll quote myself:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

In the What If series, it features the Watcher of 616 chronicling events across the multiverse which diverge from 616.

In the recent What If featuring the Disassembled Avengers, the Beast spearheads a plan to stop Wandas rampage. In this reality, she is defeated before she gets to say "No More mutants". At the end, when she is killed (along with Cap America who had secretly lost his mind and was in on the whole thing) Dr Strange uses the eye of Agamotto to scan all other realities to see what could have been if Beast hadnt intervened:

If Beast hadnt intervened, then Wandas rampage would have come to an end without the need for Wanda or Caps death (and therefore would have been in line with what happened in 616)

The key points are that the Eye Of Agamotto, (which scans across the multiverse) discovers that

a) in all other(other than this "What If" therefore including 616) realities it was just a peaceful WORLD that Pietro convinced Wanda to create.

b) In all other realities her subsequent reality warping just ridded the world of the mutant gene

c) In all other realities, the transformations were GLOBAL

"In ALL other realities her GLOBAL transformations"

You have the Eye of Agamotto scanning across the multiverse and determining that in all other realities the Scarlet Witch JUST warped the world to create House of M and that ALL her changes in ALL other realities were GLOBAL.

That all fits together nicely.

So just to summarize, NOWHERE on panel are any changes to reality made directly by Wanda with the exception of the GLOBAL conversion to the HOM reality and the No more mutants change. Where is this fabled third and allegedly universal change you talk about Mr Master.

No rants. Just show us on panel where the third change is shown happening in 616 and where it’s talked about. The conversion to HOM was the first, the No more mutants change was the last. Both of those were depicted and discussed in detail on panel. Why would they omit a supposedly universal change?

bump 🙂

Wanda ftw.

Quoting Galan

Originally posted by Galan007
Further proof that the Chaos Wave affected the Omniverse...

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"Not so long ago, the Omniverse was swept by a temporal reality Wave of unimagineable power -- That literally tore the continuum to bits, and rearranged it.."

"Then after time it apparently reversed itself, and put everything back the way it was -- Well almost everything.."

*Enter James Jaspers*:

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Now what was that temporal reality Wave, [which was responsible for resurrecting Jaspers in the first place], called again?: umm

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Ohhh yeah.... It was called the [b]Chaos Wave, [unleashed by Wanda herself]: 😎

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The Chaos Wave affected the Omniverse, 'tis undebatable. sheppardanime29 [/B]

lol "GLOBAL". Right.

Interesting match up.

If a thread specifies that one of the combatants wields a certain weapon, shouldn't it be a given that that character is competent with that weapon?

In this instance, if it's "Proteus with the Reality Gem vs HOM Wanda" it should mean the reality powers of Proteus added to the reality manipulation powers of the Reality gem. However, if we say "Hey, Proteus doesn't know how to use the gem", the thread should just be "Proteus vs HOM Wanda"