Originally posted by King Kandy
...Yeah. It's clearly stated on-panel that Phoenix is the Big Bang.
The only person to state that was Reed, with an ambiguous line.
"the Big Bang, the Phoenix Force, or what have you"
The Phoenix Force is the "Spark" that ignites the Big Bang.
The Phoenix Force in it's natural state consumes the Universe, and then the Big Bang in it's self perpetuating process recycles a Universe on it's own.
I have never denied this, in fact I've promoted it.
But the Phoenix Force does not, and has never created a Universe,
while Big Banging or while using an Avatar.
Originally posted by King Kandy
That's not what you said before....
You havent taken notice of my current perspective. My old one from 2 years ago has always been in mind no matter what different stuff i've posted. 😬
All that stuff went out of the window when i was shown that whats suggested on panel isnt always canon. Whirly was good for something. It got through in the end. Mr Master reminds me of me from about two years ago. 🙂
Originally posted by Mr Master
The only person to state that was Reed, with an ambiguous line."the Big Bang, the Phoenix Force, or what have you"
The Phoenix Force is the "Spark" that ignites the Big Bang.
The Phoenix Force in it's natural state consumes the Universe, and then the Big Bang in it's self perpetuating process recycles a Universe on it's own.
I have never denied this, in fact I've promoted it.
But the Phoenix Force does not, and has never created a Universe,
while Big Banging or while using an Avatar.
The Phoenix as per current continuity is the Big Bang.
In line with this many characters have called it the energies of creation, the sum and substance of life, mother of the stars, the beginning and end of reality and the life force of reality, it all ties in.
Have a read of my Respect thread. Im sure you'll find it very enlightening. 🙂 👆
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Have a read of my Respect thread. Im sure you'll find it very enlightening.
It's full of exaggeration and bull shit
But I won't Spam it with the Truth,
I'm not interested in trying to disprove your horse shit
I have my own thread,
there's some advice,
Stop Spamming my thread and make your own.
Oh that's right,
no one gives a shit about what you have to say.
We'll except for your Sock account.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Actualy, maybe you SHOULD make your own Hierarchy thread instead of babbling in Master's... And we could have annual "Hierarchy battles".
Someone should. I don't trust Master's at all. It's too subjective. I found a really good one on another forum. They had like every marvel and DC being you could think of.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
Nvr: Link?Kandy: Marvel's cosmic hierarchy is more defined, and given how much marvel bias there is on here and the shit people do about say, Darkseid or Anti-monitor or Superman, etc. there'd be too many disputes. 🙁
I'll try to find the link. But this guy put together a good list. Of course I could do a DC hiearchy list very well if I had the time to do alll those scans and postings. I"d probably break into tiers. Becuz people within tiers often beat each other or swap places routinely. Like Shazam and Mordru would be in the same tier.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Someone should. I don't trust Master's at all. It's too subjective.
It's not a matter of trust.
Eveything I claim, comes straight from On Panel occurances or, officially Marvel certified Bios.
The Bios however, MUST correspond with what took place on panel,
otherwise,
On Panel>>>>>>Bio.
Originally posted by Mr Master
It's not a matter of trust.Eveything I claim, comes straight from On Panel occurances or, officially Marvel certified Bios.
The Bios however, MUST correspond with what took place on panel,
otherwise,
On Panel>>>>>>Bio.
Just like when Silver Surfer became a "universe". or when the incomplete IG pwned the "multiversal" UN. Show me a bio of the Un when the IG pwned it and I can guarantee it wasn't Multiversal back then.