Power Primordial vs Power Cosmic

Originally posted by starlock
Must have been a long time ago,search is coming up empty?
i have my own thoughts i wanted to compare it to yours,any links available?

It was a joke.

I posted in the wrong thread XD

Damn bottom of the page....

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Outside of Runner trashing Thanos I'd like to see a single feat that demonstrates the potential of the PP. All in all we really have no idea what the PP can do except maybe extend your life.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Well it's not much, but here's the Champion using it to throw Thor, Hulk, Sasquatch, Wonderman, Namor, Colossus, Doc Sampson, and Thing for a loop…
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each of them is able to tap into the PP for a variety of effects collector has beaten down the avengers, grandmaster has done the same. obviously immortality is another gain. ego has beaten a weak galactus and his power presumably stems from the PP as well.

again, i think it's simply a matter of who fights who, who is better skilled and who can tap the most power. both sources are essentially the same thing.

Originally posted by leonidas
ego has beaten a weak galactus and his power presumably stems from the PP as well.

Otherwise, a weak Galactus has gotten the better of Ego (and was about to destroy him before, Thor cheapshotted him).

Originally posted by AcousticDoc
Which one would you say is more powerful?

power primordial

Originally posted by guy222
power primordial

Power cosmic by a mile. the PC powers galactus. Galactus simply consumed the elders-all of them sans runner who was away at the time-simultaneously when they got to be too much of a pain in the ass.

they only survived due to the pact with death that forbid them from "dying" per se.

if all of the elders combined didn't pose a threat to the big G, the power primordial can't be very impressive at all.

note that this occurred before the "invention" of the infinity gems by marvel, so the gems or lack thereof can't be used to explain the low showing there.

Originally posted by Space M ummy
Power cosmic by a mile. the PC powers galactus. Galactus simply consumed the elders-all of them sans runner who was away at the time-simultaneously when they got to be too much of a pain in the ass.

they only survived due to the pact with death that forbid them from "dying" per se.

if all of the elders combined didn't pose a threat to the big G, the power primordial can't be very impressive at all.

note that this occurred before the "invention" of the infinity gems by marvel, so the gems or lack thereof can't be used to explain the low showing there.

Elders vs Galactus. Read that last week 🙂

people keep making the same mistake over and over. just because galactus is more powerful than the grandmaster, does NOT mean the PC>PP. 😬

Originally posted by leonidas
people keep making the same mistake over and over. just because galactus is more powerful than the grandmaster, does NOT mean the PC>PP. 😬

The only reason we can say the PC > PP is because we don't even know what the PP does for people who use it.

We don't even know if the Elders have thier powers inherently or from the PP. If they do get everything from the PP then it's likely more versatile the the PC.

I know Champion has stated that his power comes from the PP but the way he uses it is very linear. Runner has speed and his "likability aura" the speed likely comes from the PP but the aura could just be part of who he is.

What does the Grandmaster get out of it at all? Gardener? Collecter?

Its true, i guess which ever power is more powerful depends on who is using said power, and their ability to wield it.

To put it simply the Elders need a f*cking mini. The only two who have really been used out side of the 70's/80's is Runner and Champion.

Originally posted by grey fox
To put it simply the Elders need a f*cking mini. The only two who have really been used out side of the 70's/80's is Runner and Champion.

Preach it!

I would think, by the very nature of the term, that 'power primordial', (with all else being equal) should be the stronger (certainly the more fundamental) of the two.

But in the realm of which sounds and looks cooler in writing: power cosmic ftw.

Originally posted by Mindship
I would think, by the very nature of the term, that 'power primordial', (with all else being equal) should be the stronger (certainly the more fundamental) of the two.

But in the realm of which sounds and looks cooler in writing: power cosmic ftw.

🤨

In comics the "power of the kitten force" could easily be the most powerful energy source in the cosmos.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
🤨

In comics the "power of the kitten force" could easily be the most powerful energy source in the cosmos.

Blasphemer! Do not even speak Those Words, lest the cosmos fall before the wrath of Furrbalus!

Originally posted by Mindship
Blasphemer! Do not even speak Those Words, lest the cosmos fall before the wrath of Furrbalus!

Are they like Furlings? 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Are they like Furlings? 😖hifty:

No 😠 😛

Originally posted by grey fox
To put it simply the Elders need a f*cking mini. The only two who have really been used out side of the 70's/80's is Runner and Champion.

Marvel should write it

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
The only reason we can say the PC > PP is because we don't even know what the PP does for people who use it.

We don't even know if the Elders have thier powers inherently or from the PP. If they do get everything from the PP then it's likely more versatile the the PC.

I know Champion has stated that his power comes from the PP but the way he uses it is very linear. Runner has speed and his "likability aura" the speed likely comes from the PP but the aura could just be part of who he is.

What does the Grandmaster get out of it at all? Gardener? Collecter?

but we DO know it is the power of the big bang. that is the same source from which the PC stems. grandmaster has tapped the PP for all sorts of 'cosmic' effects, and collector has done the same.

before he became a champion jobber champion was strong enough to easily handle some of the strongest beings on earth (including thor) simultaneously and effortlessly. the elders need the annihilus treatment to define them further and to more closely examine the extent of their power.

i still see no logical way to say one is more powerful though. be like saying ironman's repulsors are more powerful than any magic because he could beat someone who could only cast illusions or something.

Originally posted by leonidas
but we DO know it is the power of the big bang. that is the same source from which the PC stems. grandmaster has tapped the PP for all sorts of 'cosmic' effects, and collector has done the same.

before he became a champion jobber champion was strong enough to easily handle some of the strongest beings on earth (including thor) simultaneously and effortlessly. the elders need the annihilus treatment to define them further and to more closely examine the extent of their power.

i still see no logical way to say one is more powerful though. be like saying ironman's repulsors are more powerful than any magic because he could beat someone who could only cast illusions or something.

I was just talking about feats accomplished by people using the PP and the PC.