Spartans lose. Cap has taken out dozens of shield agents with guns, DD is no joke, and Bats with all his standard gear... that is a lot of deadly stuff. I realize 100:1 is a huge number, but I would count on Bats gear being used to lower the number pretty quickly. Still I think the 300 could pull some victories.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Spartans lose. Cap has taken out dozens of shield agents with guns, DD is no joke, and Bats with all his standard gear... that is a lot of deadly stuff. I realize 100:1 is a huge number, but I would count on Bats gear being used to lower the number pretty quickly. Still I think the 300 could pull some victories.
You guys are nuts... Dozens ok fine... maybe 24 at most. This is 300 lets say they all take out two dozen each that still leaves 228.
There is no way those three can take out 300 bad asses with swords, spears, and shields. Not happenning EVER!!! You have to realize numbers do count especially against street levellers who can be killed with conventional weaponry.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Spartans lose. Cap has taken out dozens of shield agents with guns, DD is no joke, and Bats with all his standard gear... that is a lot of deadly stuff. I realize 100:1 is a huge number, but I would count on Bats gear being used to lower the number pretty quickly. Still I think the 300 could pull some victories.
Idunno if they'd take a majority but I agree that the trio will take some wins here. Most likely, I could see them taking out 150 Spartans, at best I'd say they could beat them. Only about 1-2/10 though. To win, they'd have to attack from a far distance to take out alot before the 300 swarm them, meaning Capt would have to throw his shield several times really hard to go a long ways to take out a good chunk of them, same for DD with his billy clubs, which I dont think he can throw them that far 😬 and Batman would have to do the same with his couple of bat-grenades, batarangs and then when they get in close, he can throw down some tear gas/smoke, and thats where they most likely die IMO. 🙁 But I'd say Capt is most likely the last one fighting and maybe even standing because of his steel chain mail>>bronze weaponry.
Originally posted by braz
Idunno if they'd take a majority but I def agree that the trio will take some wins here. Most likely, I could see them taking out 150-200 Spartans, at best I'd say they could beat them. Only about 2-3/10 though. To win, they'd have to attack from a far distance to take out alot before the 300 swarm them, meaning Capt would have to throw his shield several times really hard to go a long ways to take out a good chunk of them, same for DD with his billy clubs, and Batman would have to do the same with his couple of bat-grenades, batarangs and then when they get in close, he can throw down some tear gas/smoke, and thats where they most likely die IMO. 🙁 But I'd say Capt is most likely the last one fighting and maybe even standing because of his steel chain mail>>bronze weaponry.
Guys the Spartans are no pushovers, they are master strategist just like these 3. The trio takes out 50 at best then go down really hard. If you've ever been in a fight you should know that even a 2 to 1 ratio is ridiculous advantage (This is 100 to 1). Each one has to take out 100 spartans. Lets not even get into fatigue, cuz these guys are still human. Even if they attack from a distance the Spartans are notoriuos for having an incredible defense called a phalanx. They would need machine guns to really penetrate it.
Batman take out one hundred by himself in the first ten minutes with a gas granades. DD curbstomp ninjas in massive numbers for kicks so he is going to take down quite few I say 75. Cap just plays the cut thrown the shield around killing probably 60 or so. Adamantium/Vibranium Alloy>>>>>>>>>Bronze. So lets see 300-100-75-60=65+1 Got to count Lionidas. 66 vs three HTH. Team wins. 😎
Originally posted by nimbus006
Guys the Spartans are no pushovers, they are master strategist just like these 3. The trio takes out 50 at best then go down really hard. If you've ever been in a fight you should know that even a 2 to 1 ratio is ridiculous advantage (This is 100 to 1). Each one has to take out 100 spartans. Lets not even get into fatigue, cuz these guys are still human. Even if they attack from a distance the Spartans are notoriuos for having an incredible defense called a phalanx. They would need machine guns to really penetrate it.
Caps shield will go right through their bronze shield like hot knife through butter.
Originally posted by nimbus006
Guys the Spartans are no pushovers, they are master strategist just like these 3. The trio takes out 50 at best then go down really hard. If you've ever been in a fight you should know that even a 2 to 1 ratio is ridiculous advantage (This is 100 to 1). Each one has to take out 100 spartans. Lets not even get into fatigue, cuz these guys are still human. Even if they attack from a distance the Spartans are notoriuos for having an incredible defense called a phalanx. They would need machine guns to really penetrate it.
Machine guns to penetrate a phalanx huh??
I guess those Roman Centurions had machine guns. The phalanx was a great strategy until people figured out ways to beat it. And honestly the phalanx helps the team here. Phalanx was way too close together, increasing the body count from bat grenades, or gas.
Using the Phalanx against this team is suicide. Cap's shied can easily break any and all spears. Picture a row of 200 spears, Cap throws his shield which bounces off a rock and cuts perpendicular to the spears, cutting them all. I mean that is just one example.
Also Spartans are no joke, but IMO this team could easily take out 50 shield agents with all their weapons, and 50 armed shield agents would shred the 300.
I have no reason to believe that the 300 would succeed where teams of ninjas and trained killers have not.
Also I agree in a real fight a 2:1 difference can be really hard to overcome, but these are comic book characters.
Originally posted by Caps Conscience
Caps shield will go right through their bronze shield like hot knife through butter.
Pretty much. And like Stupid said, (sorry, but thats ur name 😆 ) the phalanx would only worsen the Spartans' chances of winning because theyre so close together and Capts shield would just mow them down.
Originally posted by braz
Pretty much. And like Stupid said, (sorry, but thats ur name 😆 ) the phalanx would only worsen the Spartans' chances of winning because theyre so close together and Capts shield would just mow them down.
Yeah I need to change my name.
But yeah I think the fighting style of the Spartans plays right into the team's hands. Think about what gas, or exploding batarangs could do in a tight spot.
Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Yeah I need to change my name.But yeah I think the fighting style of the Spartans plays right into the team's hands. Think about what gas, or exploding batarangs could do in a tight spot.
Yup, I dont think the gas would be too bad though, except if theyre in the phalanx like u said, I mean cuz primative explosives didnt seem to shake em, but modern ones? Yeah, theyre dead.
It is true that the phalanx is a disadvantage in this fight...but it would be wrong to say that the Spartans wouldn't adjust their tactics once they realized that they were getting slaughtered. Spartans are soldiers. They are highly experienced with battle tactics.
If the situation called for it, the Spartans could employ what is known as Fabian tactics. Although this type of warfare was not known until the Punic Wars when Fabius Maximus utilized it to stop the Carthaginian phalanx and their onslaught of elephants. George Washington even used it to combat the more experienced British army during the American Revolution.
I'm not saying that the 300 would defenitely win if they used this type of warfare, but it would make things tougher for the comic trio. The point is...I don't think the 300 are just gonna stand there using the phalanx when it would become apparent rather quickly that their formation was not working. They would adjust....and Leonidas was a smart enough soldier and leader to change battle tactics on the fly.
Originally posted by charlemagne9746
It is true that the phalanx is a disadvantage in this fight...but it would be wrong to say that the Spartans wouldn't adjust their tactics once they realized that they were getting slaughtered. Spartans are soldiers. They are highly experienced with battle tactics.If the situation called for it, the Spartans could employ what is known as Fabian tactics. Although this type of warfare was not known until the Punic Wars when Fabius Maximus utilized it to stop the Carthaginian phalanx and their onslaught of elephants. George Washington even used it to combat the more experienced British army during the American Revolution.
I'm not saying that the 300 would defenitely win if they used this type of warfare, but it would make things tougher for the comic trio. The point is...I don't think the 300 are just gonna stand there using the phalanx when it would become apparent rather quickly that their formation was not working. They would adjust....and Leonidas was a smart enough soldier and leader to change battle tactics on the fly.
Yeah, Im not saying they'll be in the phalanx though, they probably wont also because they used that to create an impenetrable force with a 'forest of spears'(actually what the word phalanx means) to stop a massive army such as the Persians had, here its only 3 guys, so they'll most likely just charge at Capt, Batman and Daredevil. but I still say about 150 Spartans would go down, 50 about for each. Why? Capt uses his shield which has basically endless momentum(made of Vibranium) and takes down several as its coming to them, and the same amout when it comes back to Capt. DD does the same with his clubs, except not quite as effective IMO, and Batman just goes gadget-crazy for awhile and then uses smoke/tear gas when the Spartans get in closer, then thats when they die.