This Team vs 300 Spartans

Originally posted by charlemagne9746
It is true that the phalanx is a disadvantage in this fight...but it would be wrong to say that the Spartans wouldn't adjust their tactics once they realized that they were getting slaughtered. Spartans are soldiers. They are highly experienced with battle tactics.

If the situation called for it, the Spartans could employ what is known as Fabian tactics. Although this type of warfare was not known until the Punic Wars when Fabius Maximus utilized it to stop the Carthaginian phalanx and their onslaught of elephants. George Washington even used it to combat the more experienced British army during the American Revolution.

I'm not saying that the 300 would defenitely win if they used this type of warfare, but it would make things tougher for the comic trio. The point is...I don't think the 300 are just gonna stand there using the phalanx when it would become apparent rather quickly that their formation was not working. They would adjust....and Leonidas was a smart enough soldier and leader to change battle tactics on the fly.

Wasn't the Fabian strategy more of a war of Attrition than an actual military strategy? It involved avoiding Hanibal, and not actually engaging him, in an effort to strain his supplies and to prevent him from gaining another victory and with it the support of the locals.

I don't see how this matters. Any tactical mastery would be by the team. Cap knows more than pretty much anyone else, and Bats is no slouch.

Also you do realize that Fabian was somewhat later than the 300...

Talking about the Phalanx was in response to a suggestion that is would help, I agree that they won't just sit there, I just don't think they will lay a hand on 3 uber street level guys like this, with better weapons.

Originally posted by nimbus006
You guys are nuts... Dozens ok fine... maybe 24 at most. This is 300 lets say they all take out two dozen each that still leaves 228.
There is no way those three can take out 300 bad asses with swords, spears, and shields. Not happenning EVER!!! You have to realize numbers do count especially against street levellers who can be killed with conventional weaponry.

Just because they are outnumbered doesn't mean anything. Did you ever watch Bruce Lee movies? Now secondly, All the gear Batman carries, he can take out a whole lot of them before he even starts punching and kicking. And Capt America and DD will take out their fair share also. BM,CA and DD win.

Leonidus after hearing about captons shield = indestructable: "Indestructable? We'll put its name to the test..."
(few minutes later)
"Shit it is indestructable... its a good thing we stabbed him and his 2 friends....."

Holy crud these three guys get majorly pwned.

Originally posted by DARKLORDCAEDUS
Just because they are outnumbered doesn't mean anything. Did you ever watch Bruce Lee movies? Now secondly, All the gear Batman carries, he can take out a whole lot of them before he even starts punching and kicking. And Capt America and DD will take out their fair share also. BM,CA and DD win.

Bruce Lee movies 🙄... are you being serious? Sorry to dissapoint you but they lose very hard. They get rushed, maybe take out 50-75 Spartans then die very horrible deaths. People keep bringing up the fact that Cap and DD have taken out a dozen shield agents. Ok fine a dozen is nothing compared to 300. Its a huge difference Im just trying to be realistic. Skill can only take you so far, they dont have any superhuman stamina (save cap, but even he tires) that would allow them to fight for hours upon hours, which is how long it would take to finish these guys off.

Another huge factor is where the fight takes place.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Bruce Lee movies 🙄... are you being serious? Sorry to dissapoint you but they lose very hard. They get rushed, maybe take out 50-75 Spartans then die very horrible deaths. People keep bringing up the fact that Cap and DD have taken out a dozen shield agents. Ok fine a dozen is nothing compared to 300. Its a huge difference Im just trying to be realistic. Skill can only take you so far, they dont have any superhuman stamina (save cap, but even he tires) that would allow them to fight for hours upon hours, which is how long it would take to finish these guys off.

Another huge factor is where the fight takes place.

Bruce Lee was a real martial artist though, possibly the best ever..! He could pwn ANYONE! 😖hifty: But I gotta say, I think they could take around 150 Spartans if they keep their distance and use it effectively long enough(doesnt matter they still die), but Batman has 'rangs and grenades, Capt-shield which can go on like forever and billy clubs for DD which are all ranged attacks. And not to mention, Capts chainmail would be quite effective in this fight considering its high-carbon steel at the least and all the Spartans have is bronze crap 😬 IMO, Cap takes out the most Spartans.

300 spartans vs these three decimate them. tear them limb from limb. to many against just three.

Originally posted by braz
Bruce Lee was a real martial artist though, possibly the best ever..! He could pwn ANYONE! 😖hifty: But I gotta say, I think they could take around 150 Spartans if they keep their distance and use it effectively long enough(doesnt matter they still die), but Batman has 'rangs and grenades, Capt-shield which can go on like forever and billy clubs for DD which are all ranged attacks. And not to mention, Capts chainmail would be quite effective in this fight considering its high-carbon steel at the least and all the Spartans have is bronze crap 😬 IMO, Cap takes out the most Spartans.

LOL I know he was one of the best, but dont use his movies and proof for why numbers dont matter in a fight.

Agreed Cap would take out the most Spartans. 150 though is still alot, dont know if they can kill that many.

First of all Cap and Bats can both fight for days. Literally days. I am not sure about Dardevil, but I have seen him take on tons of ninjas and not seem too tired. Cap can run a mile in like one minute or something ridic like that. Also given Bat's suit, do you even think a spartan arrow or spear could do anything to him? 50 Spartans would die before they knew what was happeneing, due to explosive devices.
I agree dozens in less than a hundred, but guns are way better than spears. As I said earlier, 50 shield agents could kill all 300 Spartans imo with guns etc. If Cap can dodge and angle bullets, how are spears going to hit him. Realistically they can also run away, use distance for a while, and then run again. Caps and bats will tire much slower than the 300 imo, especially Cap.

They still get majorly owned. Cap will probably be the last to go down but they all three get majorly pwned after a while.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
First of all Cap and Bats can both fight for days. Literally days. I am not sure about Dardevil, but I have seen him take on tons of ninjas and not seem too tired. Cap can run a mile in like one minute or something ridic like that. Also given Bat's suit, do you even think a spartan arrow or spear could do anything to him? 50 Spartans would die before they knew what was happeneing, due to explosive devices.
I agree dozens in less than a hundred, but guns are way better than spears. As I said earlier, 50 shield agents could kill all 300 Spartans imo with guns etc. If Cap can dodge and angle bullets, how are spears going to hit him. Realistically they can also run away, use distance for a while, and then run again. Caps and bats will tire much slower than the 300 imo, especially Cap.

I dont think thats accurate. Cap and Bats cannot fight for days they are enhanced human at best.

We've seen Daredevil maw his way through The Hand ninjas.

Originally posted by nimbus006
I dont think thats accurate. Cap and Bats cannot fight for days they are enhanced human at best.

I think it was a figure of speech more than an accurate portrayal.

Ok I was exaggerating a little, this fight is not going to last days, but I have seen Cap and Bats fight long battles, against stronger opponents. They both can stay awake for long periods, and as I stated earlier, I don't know that the 300 would have an easy time piercing their armor.

Originally posted by Stupid Rookie
Ok I was exaggerating a little, this fight is not going to last days, but I have seen Cap and Bats fight long battles, against stronger opponents. They both can stay awake for long periods, and as I stated earlier, I don't know that the 300 would have an easy time piercing their armor.

Really Caps the one thats gunna be the biggest problem for the Spartans with his steel chainmail, which came out in Medieval times and its even more advanced around our time. And with Capt's reflexes and speed, he could brawl for awhile IMO, but would eventually die by too many spears at once or being stabbed in the face. Batman however, only has kevlar around his chest and a kevlar cowl, the rest is Nomex tights. And DD I dont know what his suit is made of. 😕

Originally posted by braz
Really Caps the one thats gunna be the biggest problem for the Spartans with his steel chainmail, which came out in Medieval times and its even more advanced around our time. And with Capt's reflexes and speed, he could brawl for awhile IMO, but would eventually die by too many spears at once or being stabbed in the face. Batman however, only has kevlar around his chest and a kevlar cowl, the rest is Nomex tights. And DD I dont know what his suit is made of. 😕

This team has better long range attacks. Who says the the battle is going to get close enough to where the have to brawl? More then likely whats going to happen is that the team is going to run into a wooded area and start setting traps until the numbers favor them.

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
This team has better long range attacks. Who says the the battle is going to get close enough to where the have to brawl? More then likely whats going to happen is that the team is going to run into a wooded area and start setting traps until the numbers favor them.

A wooded area, in Thermopylae? 😕

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
This team has better long range attacks. Who says the the battle is going to get close enough to where the have to brawl? More then likely whats going to happen is that the team is going to run into a wooded area and start setting traps until the numbers favor them.

Not a bad idea. Realistically, Caps is a great strategist, and would figure something out.

Originally posted by braz
A wooded area, in Thermopylae? 😕

The location was never specified. 💃

Originally posted by Caps Conscience
The location was never specified. 💃

Damn you!. 😠 You're right, I couldve sworn I put the setting on there.
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