Originally posted by starkingoh calm down over there. u never proved anything. darkseid lost to doomsday it wasnt retconned. u told me the wrong book if it was. u dont own anything u talk about. i ask for simple proof but u just say whatever comes to ur head. u guess. u are the consumate respect thread reader. apokilips now wasnt a bad book, compltely different. its funny every time darkseid loses its either the writer didnt understand him,avatar which u dont prove, or jeph loeb was behind it. 😆
So was Silver Surfer vs. Dracula, but that writing was still craptastic.
Originally posted by starkingwas i talking to u here. geez what does validus have to do with anything. 😆
Stop being a f#cking hypocrit. It's funny how you didn't bring that shit up, in your Darkseid vs Mordru thread, but you do when Ds is facing a powerful Marvel character. Make up your damn mind, and stop being two faced. You even admited, that Ds is more powerful than Validus. And yes idiot, Hunter/Prey WAS RETCONNED into an avatar. Now try to use some logic, then we'll talk.
Originally posted by quanchi112
yes i think darkseid should on average beat superman. but in hand to hand darkseid aint nothing special. as proved. show me the proof of the avatar retcon. page number and the book in question. i own many new gods things so tell me so i can verufy this myself. u also said loeb wrote all darkseid losses to superman. u were way off there also. page number and comic please.
Hey the darkseid avatar thing might seem stupid..but it did happen and darkseid even says .."it is somthing he prefers not to do,however"
"as the avatar is so much weaker than his true form.it can even be beat in battle, if the opponent is STRONG enough."
Now quanchi it is time to show your true colors...not that you have to prove anything to me or other posters..look and read the scan in the link i provide and be honest and fair with your view on the avatar matter
heres the link
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/440160_5-darkseid-vs-h-p-doomsday
Originally posted by quanchi112Dumbie, THREE LOSSES DOES NOT OVERSHADOW A CHARCTERS ENTIRE HISTORY. AND YES YOU BRAIN DEAD HYPOCRIT, HUNTER/PREY WAS RETCONNED IN NEW GODS #15.
oh calm down over there. u never proved anything. darkseid lost to doomsday it wasnt retconned. u told me the wrong book if it was. u dont own anything u talk about. i ask for simple proof but u just say whatever comes to ur head. u guess. u are the consumate respect thread reader. apokilips now wasnt a bad book, compltely different. its funny every time darkseid loses its either the writer didnt understand him,avatar which u dont prove, or jeph loeb was behind it. 😆
Your telling me that I'm lying, but in reality, you uncapable of finding the comic and page, where Ds stated so. It doesn't matter if Supes defeated Ds more than once, hell it's f#cking Superman, if Marvel had a character like him, then he would make ALOT of characters job to him.
But guess what? Thanos isn't Superman, meaning he doesn't have Superman's iconic status, meaning on this forum, Thanos DOESN'T beat Darkseid.
Originally posted by starlocki have perused it. but i cannot see where darkseid says point blank which are avatars and which is his real form. i dont believe if his planet was getting crushed by doomsday would he bo so cowardly not to show up. it was the rea darkseid unless i mised something or there is a scan where it says in the doomsday hunter and prey story that it was.
Hey the darkseid avatar thing might seem stupid..but it did happen and darkseid even says .."it is somthing he prefers not to do,however""as the avatar is so much weaker than his true form.it can even be beat in battle, if the opponent is STRONG enough."
Now quanchi it is time to show your true colors...not that you have to prove anything to me or other posters..look and read the scan in the link i provide and be honest and fair with your view on the avatar matter
heres the link
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/440160_5-darkseid-vs-h-p-doomsday
Originally posted by starkingagin with the troll like insults. im in capable u said it to me. proof falls on ur shoulders. its just u cant prove anything, ever. what page number, if u know its in the comic tell me what page number. look someone else help him out he cant do anything on his own. marvel doesnt place emphasis on one character like dc. marvels universe doesnt crumble if one or two characters namely earthmen die. marvel is different than dc so quit saying if suprman was in marvel it would be different. dc makes superman as powerful as he is and the cetner of all things not marvel.
Dumbie, THREE LOSSES DOES NOT OVERSHADOW A CHARCTERS ENTIRE HISTORY. AND YES YOU BRAIN DEAD HYPOCRIT, HUNTER/PREY WAS RETCONNED IN NEW GODS #15.Your telling me that I'm lying, but in reality, you uncapable of finding the comic and page, where Ds stated so. It doesn't matter if Supes defeated Ds more than once, hell it's f#cking Superman, if Marvel had a character like him, then he would make ALOT of characters job to him.
But guess what? Thanos isn't Superman, meaning he doesn't have Superman's iconic status, meaning on this forum, Thanos DOESN'T beat Darkseid.
Originally posted by starkingquit bringing in validus. superman kicked darkseids ass. no need to comapre any other characters, they have fought and recently supes keeps crushing him.
It shows how much of a fuking hypocrit, you are. You say Ds is more powerful than him, yet you CONTINUE to bring him lossing to Superman. And guess what? Validus>>>pc Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112READ IT CLEARLY! He said his true form LIKELY cannot be beaten on physical plane. Meaning, Ds has NEVER used his true form, before that story.
i have perused it. but i cannot see where darkseid says point blank which are avatars and which is his real form. i dont believe if his planet was getting crushed by doomsday would he bo so cowardly not to show up. it was the rea darkseid unless i mised something or there is a scan where it says in the doomsday hunter and prey story that it was.
Originally posted by starkinghere we go again. it doesnt retcon anything. when was this comic made and when was hunter prey made. i dont buy this darkseid has never shown his true form. its crap.
READ IT CLEARLY! He said his true form LIKELY cannot be beaten on physical plane. Meaning, Ds has NEVER used his true form, before that story.
Originally posted by quanchi112So that means Superman can beat Thanos, if he can beat Darkseid, cause you know, Darkseid>Thanos. And Quan, what's the point in proving something, when you were right in the first place?
agin with the troll like insults. im in capable u said it to me. proof falls on ur shoulders. its just u cant prove anything, ever. what page number, if u know its in the comic tell me what page number. look someone else help him out he cant do anything on his own. marvel doesnt place emphasis on one character like dc. marvels universe doesnt crumble if one or two characters namely earthmen die. marvel is different than dc so quit saying if suprman was in marvel it would be different. dc makes superman as powerful as he is and the cetner of all things not marvel.
Originally posted by quanchi112
ur word has been proven utterly in the past as blatant lies. as with the loeb being the writer the only one to have beaten darkseid in a fight. u cant prove it so it stands. when someone calls me out i prove it. it happened it wasnt an avatar. u lie anyways as proven in the past. u spread misinformation and lies as to prove ur point and cant prove anything. nothing else needs to be said to u.
it was ana avatar. i'm not a liar. you're stubborn. period.
Originally posted by starkingno it doesnt. supes could not beat thanos. reason he beats ds is becuz ds sucks ass at hand to hand. thanos fights thor with upgrades and hangs in there. thanos would trounce supes.
So that means Superman can beat Thanos, if he can beat Darkseid, cause you know, Darkseid>Thanos. And Quan, what's the point in proving something, when you were right in the first place?
Originally posted by TheGame17u lied about loeb writting all ds losses to supes. that was a lie. show me where it states point blank that darkseid had an avatar lose to doomsday. its nbot point blank. until i see a scan where it clearly points it out it stands.
it was ana avatar. i'm not a liar. you're stubborn. period.