Originally posted by quanchi112
Says you. So you really think tha Superman would just swat away the Sentry like nothing. Would Superman also stop Juggernaut in his tracks momentarily.
Swat him away like nothing? Nah. Beat him for a very healthy majority? Absolutely.
As far as stopping the Juggernaut - how would that matter? The Hulk didn't manage to. 🙂.
Originally posted by SoljerHe did hang with him momentarily with Hulk barely moving backwards. I dont think Superman could stop him momentarily and engage him in the way that WW Hulk did.
Swat him away like nothing? Nah. Beat him for a very healthy majority? Absolutely.As far as stopping the Juggernaut - how would that matter? The Hulk didn't manage to. 🙂.
I still remain unconvinced that Superman is so high above Sentry. I need to see more of Sentry.
'Hang with him momentarily while still being slowly pushed backwards' is not 'stopping the juggernaut.' Choose your words more carefully.
As far as the Hulk's showing against the Juggernaut, Superman would have replicated that and more, removing him to low-earth-orbit rather than just through a few buildings.
Originally posted by SoljerI chose my words just fine. I said stopped him momentarily. What he went back not even a full step. Thats impressive. Supes wouldnt have been able to hold him off as long as WW Hulk did imo.
'Hang with him momentarily while still being slowly pushed backwards' is not 'stopping the juggernaut.' Choose your words more carefully.As far as the Hulk's showing against the Juggernaut, Superman would have replicated that and more, removing him to low-earth-orbit rather than just through a few buildings.
Originally posted by B.AIm not posting scans of him owning the fantastic four,the xmen,the xforce,bfring the juggernaut,taking out iron man,taking out dr. strange/zom,taking a whisper that would have leveled Rhode Island,taking everything Sentry gave him when not at his most powerful. I mean what does it take to impress some of you people. He conquered every challenge. What do you want him to beat a celestial?
Give me more. I want YOU to now. Not your normal crap.
FF = Superman puts them down. H also causes more damage.
X-Men = considering that team how is it impressive?
Juggs = He BFR'd him so unimpressive. he was stalemating a weaker opponent that Supes.
Iron Man....Supes takes hima nd causes more damage.
Zom = It was PIS, even know it was a slight bit of Zom.
I wanted impressive stuff compared to Superman.
The old Hulk, let's say 3 years ago, which we all know had a lower base strength than Supes, a considerable amount of durability, and enough reflexes and speed to catch up with low-mid level speedster, would go down for all the reasons posted in the countless threads created in countless forum about this fight.
But the Green Scar, the Hulk we saw beating down most heroes in NY with ease and even make Strange choosing Zom as a last resort weapon, well that's another kind of story.Last panels of WWH, we saw gamma bursts and shockwaves coming from Hulk's body, another minutes of that, the Earth would have been shredded to pieces.
A slugfest like that with Sentry, considering except for Heat Vision, Superman has no other energy emission abilities, he would win only cause he cannot revert to human form, cause he's a kryptonian, that would give him the edge over a Green Scar reverting to Bruce Banner.
And to me, that's not a big edge between the two fighters.
Originally posted by B.AIts funy but the one thing you dont like it the zom thing and you dont count it. Give me a break man. Its canon and it most certainly counts as a feat for WW Hulk.
FF = Superman puts them down. H also causes more damage.X-Men = considering that team how is it impressive?
Juggs = He BFR'd him so unimpressive. he was stalemating a weaker opponent that Supes.
Iron Man....Supes takes hima nd causes more damage.
Zom = It was PIS, even know it was a slight bit of Zom.
I wanted impressive stuff compared to Superman.
Originally posted by quanchi112
They used the words footsteps in the comic. There is nothing to support your theory. It still could be stamps and you could be right but I feel with what was written down in the comic and what I think is he was so pissed off just walking was causing all that damage.
tell you what... even taking that thing as anally literal as people seem to to want to, how does that put him on superman's level?
superman being the guy who pushed warworld, turned that big mageddon wheel thingy, and made the four actual elements of the earth itself back down when he threatened them, and thats just for starters...
Originally posted by pr1983
and i think you're taking it far too literally... ok, imagine you're the hulk, and you want to be taken down... you're thinking "i need to get their attention so they stop me from destroying the planet"so are you gonna think to yourself:
a) 'I'm gonna take a step forward, yeah, that'll get their attention', or
b) 'I'm gonna stomp my foot and make them listen...'
Like I said that point is valid if you assume that its impossible for Hulk to generate that force by walking. Obvoulsy if he didnt need to stamp his feet he could have got their attention by walking.
If you saw the Hulk stamping his feet what would YOU say? If he was just walking what would YOU say?
Hell maybe your right but even if they had said "If he keeps walking" you could still say that im taking things literially.
Originally posted by pr1983
superman being the guy who pushed warworld, turned that big mageddon wheel thingy, and made the four actual elements of the earth itself back down when he threatened them, and thats just for starters...
How big was war world? How come Superman needed help to pull the moon?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Its funy but the one thing you dont like it the zom thing and you dont count it. Give me a break man. Its canon and it most certainly counts as a feat for WW Hulk.
Please explain. What has Zom Strange done that was impressive? What makes Zom Strange top tier? How can you possibly rate Zom Strange at all considering he has a total of ONE showing.
The only thing we know for certain is that Zom Strange is weaker than the Hulk. That's all.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Like I said that point is valid if you assume that its impossible for Hulk to generate that force by walking. Obvoulsy if he didnt need to stamp his feet he could have got their attention by walking.If you saw the Hulk stamping his feet what would YOU say? If he was just walking what would YOU say?
Hell maybe your right but even if they had said "If he keeps walking" you could still say that im taking things literially.
even if you're right, how does that make him on superman's level?
and also, my assumptions are based on so much more, just so we're clear...
[How big was war world? How come Superman needed help to pull the moon?
it was about the size of pluto, and had actual engines...
I don't know the comic with the moon thing, but i assume PIS...
Originally posted by Soljer
Please explain. What has Zom Strange done that was impressive? What makes Zom Strange top tier? How can you possibly rate Zom Strange at all considering he has a total of ONE showing.The only thing we know for certain is that Zom Strange is weaker than the Hulk. That's all.
We know strange got a boost when he embibed a little of zoms essence
and we know he jobbed ALOT
Originally posted by Gecko4lif
We know zom
We know strangeWe know strange got a boost when he embibed a little of zoms essence
and we know he jobbed ALOT
We know that Strange got a physical boost when embedded with a fraction of Zom's essence.
Meaning what, exactly? Zom Strange was, more or less, a slow brick with a 'blast' power that was weaker and less durable than the Hulk.
And that's is all we know about Zom Strange. 😐.