Originally posted by quanchi112
Just got here. Heres the characters I mentioned but note soljer that I just named a bunch for each side and that no side would stomp the other as some posters in here have claimed. Its not a team vs team but rather a comparison oftop tiers. Trickster tried saying earth top tiers would but that wasnt the initial claim by another poster.
Well, Genis has some potential, but on average, the 'most powerful' out of those mentioned would be the Surfer and the Lanterns.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I have never said WW Hulk stomps him but you keep telling me WW Hulk gets shit stomped. I mean you are another one who simply becuz I disagree with your supposed curbstomp that I deserve to be mocked. I mean come on Hulk at his normal levels has defeated Thor before. I loathe Superman but give him wins I feel he deserves I dont come in here posting that he gets oneshotted.
I don't think anyone's saying that Clark will oneshot the Hulk or anything, just that there isn't much of a conceivable way for the Hulk to overcome Superman's vastly superior speed and incredible long-range attacks.
Make it a slugfest, and I'd give World War Hulk the nod. In a regular fight, though? No chance.
Originally posted by Soljer
Well, Genis has some potential, but on average, the 'most powerful' out of those mentioned would be the Surfer and the Lanterns.I don't think anyone's saying that Clark will oneshot the Hulk or anything, just that there isn't much of a conceivable way for the Hulk to overcome Superman's vastly superior speed and incredible long-range attacks.
Make it a slugfest, and I'd give World War Hulk the nod. In a regular fight, though? No chance.
I will concede on this point and say that WWH would lose against Superman in a normal battle where Superman can keep his distance and utilize his full range of powers, such as T-vo. If they were stuck in an adamantium cage though and Supes couldn't BFR, WWH wins (excluding use of T-VO).
Originally posted by Kutulu
I will concede on this point and say that WWH would lose against Superman in a normal battle where Superman can keep his distance and utilize his full range of powers, such as T-vo. If they were stuck in an adamantium cage though and Supes couldn't BFR, WWH wins (excluding use of T-VO).
Torquasm Vo is a joke, and arguing that it's Superman's only avenue to victory against the Hulk is even more so. 😬.
Further, it would depend on how large the 'cage' was. Superman could still utilize super speed to never even be touched by the Hulk, or he could vibrate through the cage and literally be out of the Hulk's grasp.
Originally posted by CreshoskWhere did you see Hulk begging for his life. He was getting beaten on but more than took it. He seemed fine to me and in no trouble at all. Like he hasnt taken a beating before and came out on top in this very storyline. Of course Strange will struggle with Zom becuz he is the good guy and has merged with an evil piece of shit. Him struggling made sense to me. He couldnt survive one beating from WW Hulk yet WW Hulk took his beating just fine.
Thanks for admitting your bias.Yeah, those kryptonian's have been plotting for years how to kill Sentry. I mean he's the center of their every waking moment what with him being in another dimension that they can't readily access so he in no way shape or form interferes with their everyday lives... 🙄
Sure you have. Because reaqding about a character you loathe makes alot of sense...
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Oh yes, each side reads different books from the other. Their is no objectivity to the feats the characters preformed whatsoever...
Of course even when its obvious, the fanboys will still deny things.... Much like how you obviously won't admit to things about a character you loathe. Why would you? You wouldn't have read about him.
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Yup because that's what was happening on panel. Hulk was being tossed around like a ragdoll, had a hand punched through his chest. He was getting stomped, until Strange noticed the innocents and then attempted to constrain himself. and at that moment Hulk chose to strike.
No real damage? That explains why he got a hand shoved through him and why he was being tossed about like a rag doll... Yeah Hulk was doing just ducky in that encounter...
Oh yeah it was the entire time, which is why he was moving so smoothly up until the point he noticed the innocents... At least you're explaining your flawed interpritations of the events.
Except he only started that when he saw the innocents almost being killed because of him...
😆 right... Hulk was having such an easy time of it, being tossed around like a ragdoll and all... Tell me. If Strange hadn't struggled with that fragment of ZOM do you think Hulk would have won?
No, I'm quick to attack not cause they disagree, but because they're idiots saying stupid shit. Remember what got me in here? You disrespecting another poster you hypocrite.
When did I attack any poster in here. I said one poster wasnt giving enough credit imo to marvel top tiers. When did I attack anyone as a poster. I always respond with equal force. If someone insults the shit out of me Ill insult back. He didnt insult me and I just said I thought he was underrating marvel top tiers.
Then everyone tarts foaming at the mouth screaming his favorite character is from marvel stuff. People were acting as if I personally attacked him which I didnt.
Oh and just becuz I loathe Superman doesnt mean I dont read any comics with him in it. He still combats very cool supervillains and is in about every major crossover in dc aside from his vacation. To avoid Superman is to avoid dc.
Originally posted by SoljerIt got pretty bad in here. Some were saying Superman curbstomps the Hulk and that any kryptonian could do what WW Hulk did and could bitchslap either him or Sentry. These debates start out fine but people start to get irritated and when someone goes over the line and says curbstomp when the know it wouldnt be then the other side retaliates in equal fashion.
Well, Genis has some potential, but on average, the 'most powerful' out of those mentioned would be the Surfer and the Lanterns.I don't think anyone's saying that Clark will oneshot the Hulk or anything, just that there isn't much of a conceivable way for the Hulk to overcome Superman's vastly superior speed and incredible long-range attacks.
Make it a slugfest, and I'd give World War Hulk the nod. In a regular fight, though? No chance.
Well Sentry has speed enough to catch a bullet shot aimed at someones head. He has speed as well but in bigfights like this it usually always flying at someone and hitting them really really hard as opposed to him dodging all of Hulk's attacks.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Well Sentry has speed enough to catch a bullet shot aimed at someones head. He has speed as well but in bigfights like this it usually always flying at someone and hitting them really really hard as opposed to him dodging all of Hulk's attacks.
The Iron Fist can catch a bullet. Spiderman can catch a bullet. I've seen daredevil play baseball with them on many occasions. Taskmaster can catch a bullet.
Need we continue?
Further - the Sentry is not Superman, saying that "Well, the Sentry didn't use speed, so Superman won't either!!!" is, frankly, a bit ignorant, Quan.
Originally posted by Soljer
The Iron Fist can catch a bullet. Spiderman can catch a bullet. I've seen daredevil play baseball with them on many occasions. Taskmaster can catch a bullet.
Spiderman tried to catch a bullet and he failed. Playing baseball with a bullet is not catching a bullet. Taskmaster can catch a bullet.
Sentry caught a bullet after running what looked like a couple or several meters thats much more difficult.
Originally posted by SoljerMy argument has always been how these big battles play out in comics. Everytime the Hulk has met Superman he hasnt used speed right? So wouldnt it be kind of silly to say he used it this time imo. Not trying to be a smart ass here but seriously.
The Iron Fist can catch a bullet. Spiderman can catch a bullet. I've seen daredevil play baseball with them on many occasions. Taskmaster can catch a bullet.Need we continue?
Further - the Sentry is not Superman, saying that "Well, the Sentry didn't use speed, so Superman won't either!!!" is, frankly, a bit ignorant, Quan.
My point with the Sentry is that he speed but didnt use it either becuz thats how these big fights in comics play out. So far now neither side has used speed to defeat Hulk. Superman hasnt nor has Sentry.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Spiderman tried to catch a bullet and he failed. Playing baseball with a bullet is not catching a bullet. Taskmaster can catch a bullet.Sentry caught a bullet after running what looked like a couple or several meters thats much more difficult.
Spiderman tried to catch TWO bullets simultaneously and caught one. That's not failing to catch a bullet. Batting a bullet back into someone's face is easily more impressive than merely putting your (invulnerable) hand in the path of a bullet. Taskmaster and the Iron Fist go uncontested, though.
Originally posted by quanchi112
My argument has always been how these big battles play out in comics. Everytime the Hulk has met Superman he hasnt used speed right? So wouldnt it be kind of silly to say he used it this time imo. Not trying to be a smart ass here but seriously.My point with the Sentry is that he speed but didnt use it either becuz thats how these big fights in comics play out. So far now neither side has used speed to defeat Hulk. Superman hasnt nor has Sentry.
But what you fail to realize time and time again, Quan, is that the forum is not a comic book. There is no plot to preserve, no fans to please, no outside influences. It isn't about how it'd play out in a comic book, it's about how the fight would play out if both characters were operating a full efficiency.
Originally posted by Soljer
Spiderman tried to catch TWO bullets simultaneously and caught one. That's not failing to catch a bullet.
I think they went through his hands.....
Originally posted by Soljer
Batting a bullet back into someone's face is easily more impressive than merely putting your (invulnerable) hand in the path of a bullet. Taskmaster and the Iron Fist go uncontested, though.
Sentry chased after the bullet after it was fired. I dont know about IF but Taskmaster was stationary.
Originally posted by SoljerThis is pretty impressive to me and demonstrates how quickly he can react.
Spiderman tried to catch TWO bullets simultaneously and caught one. That's not failing to catch a bullet. Batting a bullet back into someone's face is easily more impressive than merely putting your (invulnerable) hand in the path of a bullet. Taskmaster and the Iron Fist go uncontested, though.
Originally posted by SoljerThis is wha I never understood about this forum tha we completely disregard the consistency factor. We are pulling this out of a comic book though and we must use what they give us as evidence. I understand what you are saying I really do but Supes would slug it out with him imo. You say he wouldnt lets leave it at that.
But what you fail to realize time and time again, Quan, is that the forum is not a comic book. There is no plot to preserve, no fans to please, no outside influences. It isn't about how it'd play out in a comic book, it's about how the fight would play out if both characters were operating a full efficiency.
Originally posted by Alfheim
Yes and I think the point that is being made is that the way in which Sentry caught a bullet is alot harder [than the way in which streetlevellers performed the same feat].
Originally posted by Soljer
*sigh*I wasn't trying to compare Sentry's speed to street levellers. Just the fact that catching a bullet isn't all it's cracked up to be.