Originally posted by Odekahn
I can come to common ground and agree that if Superman holds back it could cost him greatly. But if he doesn't hold back, and its red-eyed (lois is in danger) Superman, it's over before it starts imo.And if Superman has to be handicapped in this scenario (him holding back, while Hulk isn't) that should tell you something.
But I wouldn't call it "handicapping" so much as "in character."
Originally posted by 80sBaby
Fair enough.But I wouldn't call it "handicapping" so much as "in character."
Well it is within Superman's character if he's mad enough within the story. So why in the fight, can Hulk be mad enough to have a WWH hate for Superman, and Superman be indifferent towards the Hulk?
WWH would probably converse with Clark if he were in character unless you give Hulk a reason to hate Superman. So I don't understand how Hulk is afforded the liberty of being angry at Superman but not visa versa?
Originally posted by Insane Titan
so many lies in one post lol. He didn't just stand there they attacked first.The acid wasn't designed to take out Hulk at all
Wow a class 80 , lmao.
Like any of them attacks would harm Superman like they did Hulk
He stood there and let Thing punch him in the face.
LOL...the Acid attack was designed for him. He had to get PISSED in order to live after being hit by it.
LOL...super strength plus Vibranium=a lot of damage output.
Debatable.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Well it is within Superman's character if he's mad enough within the story. So why in the fight, can Hulk be mad enough to have a WWH hate for Superman, and Superman be indifferent towards the Hulk?WWH would probably converse with Clark if he were in character unless you give Hulk a reason to hate Superman. So I don't understand how Hulk is afforded the liberty of being angry at Superman but not visa versa?
Because anger is what made WWH.
ABHI...you dont know what you are talking about.
Originally posted by carver9they attacked first which is more than likey Superman would as he's quicker.
He stood there and let Thing punch him in the face.LOL...the Acid attack was designed for him. He had to get PISSED in order to live after being hit by it.
LOL...super strength plus Vibranium=a lot of damage output.
Debatable.
Care to prove the acid attack was DESIGNED to talk Hulk out.
Super strength the Xmen that did isn't even a powerhouse lol more lies
Care to prove/debate how any of them attacks would have the same effect on Superman
Originally posted by carver9
Because anger is what made WWH.ABHI...you dont know what you are talking about.
Exactly. This isn't Hulk gets to be pissed at Superman and Supes is indifferent to Hulk. That is a handicap any way you look at it. A forum fight should be, both characters are in an arena and understand that they must battle. They use their intellect and every power they have to the best of their abilities to accomplish this goal, who wins?
If you want to just drop WWH into metropolis and have Superman confront it like he would any regular story, AND give WWH a nonexistent hatred for Superman, then sure you can argue that it could be written in a way that Hulk wins.
But you better hope that Superman doesn't mean business... You give both characters the same mindset towards each other and it's a wrap. Anything less than that is an unfair advantage needed because you know Hulk needs it.
Originally posted by Stoic
WW Hulk could take it up to monstrous levels in an instant. Before people decide that it took that Hulk long periods of time to become strong enough to become a threat to someone as powerful as Superman, they had better re-read the Entire WW Hulk arc.
But, WWH wasn't savage. So he'd only take it up to high levels if he was pissed at Supes. Both characters should be on equal terms.
Originally posted by Insane TitanI'd advise actually reading the comics in question before claiming other people are wrong:
Care to prove the acid attack was DESIGNED to talk Hulk out.
Originally posted by ODG
Gamma-irradiated Thallium brings the Green Scar to his knees but is burned out by his rage. From Heroes for Hire vol.2 #13 and Incredible Hulk vol.2 #110:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical02HeroesforHirev213.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical03v2110.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Hulk%20Durability/WWHChemical04.jpg
Originally posted by Odekahn
Well it is within Superman's character if he's mad enough within the story. So why in the fight, can Hulk be mad enough to have a WWH hate for Superman, and Superman be indifferent towards the Hulk?WWH would probably converse with Clark if he were in character unless you give Hulk a reason to hate Superman. So I don't understand how Hulk is afforded the liberty of being angry at Superman but not visa versa?
2. Superman punching Hulk is enough to make Banner mad, in character.
3. Hulk was also holding back in WWH. His "All-out" mode would be World Breaker.
Originally posted by Odekahn
Exactly. This isn't Hulk gets to be pissed at Superman and Supes is indifferent to Hulk. That is a handicap any way you look at it. A forum fight should be, both characters are in an arena and understand that they must battle. They use their intellect and every power they have to the best of their abilities to accomplish this goal, who wins?If you want to just drop WWH into metropolis and have Superman confront it like he would any regular story, AND give WWH a nonexistent hatred for Superman, then sure you can argue that it could be written in a way that Hulk wins.
But you better hope that Superman doesn't mean business... You give both characters the same mindset towards each other and it's a wrap. Anything less than that is an unfair advantage needed because you know Hulk needs it.
I don't think Hulk needs any type of advantage to win, I'm just pointing out the obvious that both characters fight "in character" unless stated otherwise by the OP. This means that Superman would most likely get his cranium crushed by WWH. We don't debate off of powerset here bro, we debate off on panel showings. I thought you would have known that by now.
With that said, Hulk grabs Superman by the head and punch him in the stomach repeatedly until he passes out. This version of Hulk was walking around at his WEAKEST with planetary level strength and durability.
Originally posted by carver9I knew you would use that as a excuse to bottle out of backing up or proving everything else you said, Is there any wonder even the moderators mock you
Thanks for the scan ODG. Its clear a LOT of people here never read anything regarding WWH. Crazy people debate on internet rumors. Insane, I'm done with you, no need to continue since you don't know anything involving the story.
Originally posted by carver9
I don't think Hulk needs any type of advantage to win, I'm just pointing out the obvious that both characters fight "in character" unless stated otherwise by the OP. This means that Superman would most likely get his cranium crushed by WWH. We don't debate off of powerset here bro, we debate off on panel showings. I thought you would have known that by now.
Superman not holding back isn't out of character if he's angry.
Originally posted by 80sBaby
1. Hulk doesn't have to hate Superman here. He didn't hate everyone he fought in the WWH story. And nobody claimed Superman would be indifferent, just I'm character.2. Superman punching Hulk is enough to make Banner mad, in character.
3. Hulk was also holding back in WWH. His "All-out" mode would be World Breaker.
1. No, he didn't hate everyone he fought, but he did have a reason to be fighting. What reason does he have to fight Superman? Because his power fluctuates with how angry he is, the elements of the story make all the difference.
2. Superman is capable of getting angry too.
3. So Hulk was holding back during WWH. And Superman regularly holds back. So this is a fight between two people, both holding back? That's boring.
