Classic Juggernaut runs the gauntlet with a twist

Originally posted by strengthkills
🤨 so cytorrack gave all his strength and durability to juggernaut 😐
id also like to squash this,umm tell me does juggernaut say hes unstoppable:yes
has he been stopped:yes
so logically that means he has a limit of the strength he can achieve:yes
ah there we go on panel juggs has been shown to have a limit 👆
hulk on the other hand has he stalemated drax with the power gem(power gem is unlimited)as proffesor hulk:yes
is that the same drax who koed champion of the universe in one punch:why yes it is
but wait hasnt hulk been established to having no limit to his strength by marvel,pre-retcon beyonder and almost every scientist in MU:yes
there we go while i admit i posted this in retarded form all of its truth

I knew you didnt know what you were talking about. 1st i want you to read the book where juggernaut in excalibers is going to look for the gem of cytorrak to regain his powers. In that book the NARRATOR said that juggernaut use to have unlimited strength.

Also read this and learn.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

Originally posted by carver9
Do you think that is all the power that cytorrak has is strength and durability, well it aint. That is what he granted to the juggernaut. The rest remains with him.

Actually the gem gave him a huge number of abilities even energy blasts and such. Cain is just an idiot 🙂

Originally posted by carver9
I knew you didnt know what you were talking about. 1st i want you to read the book where juggernaut in excalibers is going to look for the gem of cytorrak to regain his powers. In that book the NARRATOR said that juggernaut use to have unlimited strength.

Also read this and learn.
http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/characters/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=596

Originally posted by strengthkills
the same has been said of hulk countless times but yet juggs unlimited is >>>than hulks
A. Strongest One There Is

Beyonder: "The Hulk is an infinity of power." SECRET WARS II #8
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Narration twice calls the Hulk the mightiest/most powerful on Earth. (Credit for second scan: DevilHulk) IH #3
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The Leader: "There’s no way to measure his strength!" (and Hulk proves highly resistant to extremes of temperature, electricity, and g-force) TTA #73
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Zaxon, a brilliant physicist hired to replace the missing Bruce Banner, attempts to measure the Hulk’s power. TTA #78.
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Narration: "The most powerful muscles the world has ever known." IH #165
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Samson: "There seems to be no limit to the Hulk’s strength." IH #228
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Narration: "Ultimately there is no force stronger than the Hulk!" The Hulk destroys a device which was intended to combat the Celestials. IH #242
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Rom: "My neutralizer has never encountered so high an energy level in any being!" IH #296
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Narration: Hulk's potential compared to four of the mightiest Avengers. IH vol. 2 #7
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Narration: "The strongest creature to walk the Earth." AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #14
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"The most powerful creature on Earth." FANTASTIC FOUR #25
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Narration: "The most powerful creature to ever walk the Earth." WOLVERINE #145.
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Later folks. It's been real.

Beyonder: "The Hulk is an infinity of power." SECRET WARS II #8
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Narration twice calls the Hulk the mightiest/most powerful on Earth. (Credit for second scan: DevilHulk) IH #3
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Originally posted by strengthkills
they dont work 😉

and after all that posting do you want to know the sad thing. Hulk was endowed with celestial equipment and was still unable to stop the juggernaut. He got pushed a 2 miles back before gathering enough strength to stop the juggernaut from pushing him.

War hulk is suppose to be the greatest incarnation of the hulks and he didnt have enough power to stop the juggernaut. Like I said before and saying again, hulk could be one of the strongest beings in comics but due to the fact that cytorrak is based off of strength and invulnerability and he granted both to the juggernaut to its full potential, theres no way iin hell hulk is stronger than the juggernaut.

The narrorator has said plenty of times that juggernaut has unlimited strength. Oh and by the way. Do you remember when onslaught trapped juggernaut in the gem of cytorrak, in that next issue when doctor strange tried to help the juggernaut, dr strange looked into the future and it was stated in that same comic that juggernaut is responsible for destroying every being on the planet. That there was no force on the planet that could stop him.

Thats when doctor strange had doubts about granting juggernaut the cytorrak gem again. Juggernaut made a promise to doctor strange that he wouldnt be the being to destroy the future and thats when doctor strange helped marko get the gem back.

So with that said, since hulk is on marvel earth he would also be one of the beings to fall to juggernauts power.

[QUOTE=9181353]Originally posted by carver9
[B]and after all that posting do you want to know the sad thing. Hulk was endowed with celestial equipment and was still unable to stop the juggernaut.
He got pushed a 2 miles back before gathering enough strength to STOP the juggernaut from pushing him.

War hulk is suppose to be the greatest incarnation of the hulks and he didnt have enough power to STOP the juggernaut.

you contradicted yourself (no offense)

hulks strength is infinite/limitless,juggs got stopped=not unlimited
onslaught pwned juggs in that same comic=contradiction
he was endowed with celestial tech(he was im not disagreein)to stabalize his power and keep him from dying(his durability was waning and was gonna die)because of the energy that was being put into him to keep the heroes reborn universe and 616 together/linked
that is why he was amped

Originally posted by carver9
and after all that posting do you want to know the sad thing. Hulk was endowed with celestial equipment and was still unable to stop the juggernaut. He got pushed a 2 miles back before gathering enough strength to stop the juggernaut from pushing him.

War hulk is suppose to be the greatest incarnation of the hulks and he didnt have enough power to stop the juggernaut. Like I said before and saying again, hulk could be one of the strongest beings in comics but due to the fact that cytorrak is based off of strength and invulnerability and he granted both to the juggernaut to its full potential, theres no way iin hell hulk is stronger than the juggernaut.

The narrorator has said plenty of times that juggernaut has unlimited strength. Oh and by the way. Do you remember when onslaught trapped juggernaut in the gem of cytorrak, in that next issue when doctor strange tried to help the juggernaut, dr strange looked into the future and it was stated in that same comic that juggernaut is responsible for destroying every being on the planet. That there was no force on the planet that could stop him.

Thats when doctor strange had doubts about granting juggernaut the cytorrak gem again. Juggernaut made a promise to doctor strange that he wouldnt be the being to destroy the future and thats when doctor strange helped marko get the gem back.

So with that said, since hulk is on marvel earth he would also be one of the beings to fall to juggernauts power.

Originally posted by strengthkills
[QUOTE=9181353]Originally posted by carver9
[B]and after all that posting do you want to know the sad thing. Hulk was endowed with celestial equipment and was still unable to stop the juggernaut.
He got pushed a 2 miles back before gathering enough strength to STOP the juggernaut from pushing him.

War hulk is suppose to be the greatest incarnation of the hulks and he didnt have enough power to STOP the juggernaut.

you contradicted yourself (no offense)

hulks strength is infinite/limitless,juggs got stopped=not unlimited
onslaught pwned juggs in that same comic=contradiction
he was endowed with celestial tech(he was im not disagreein)to stabalize his power and keep him from dying(his durability was waning and was gonna die)because of the energy that was being put into him to keep the heroes reborn universe and 616 together/linked
that is why he was amped

I didnt contradict myself war hulk had to use a whip to stop the juggernaut and he also had the aid of celestial tech. So lets put it like this, it was a hulk with a plot device. But i know you werent trying to be mean when you said that so no prob with your comment. 😎

Yes you are telling the truth, hulk strength is limitless but its a difference between unlimited and limitless. He has a bring to cross to try and reach the strength of cytorrak and I think that thats a bring that he would never be able to make. By the way war hulk is the strongest of the hulks, it was stated in that same comic. He is the strongest incarnation and still got pushed 2 to 3 miles by the juggernaut before tripping him.

Do you know why the pit the juggernaut against onslaught. Tell me this, how could you make a being look powerful. Lets say if i created two beings and i wanted to know who is the most powerful. I pit one of my beings against batman and he beats the hell out of batman physically but batman get some well placed hits. Lets say that I pit the other being against thanos and he beat the hell out of thanos but thanos gets some well placed hits. Which one of the beings would look the most powerful. I think being 2 would. Thats what juggernaut was to onslaught. He was someone to make onslaught look good. He was a powerful being that got owned by another powerful being to make the other person look good. It happens in comics all the time.

Classic Juggernaut>>Hulk

Originally posted by strengthkills
war is not the most powerful incarnation(he has the highest base)savage and WWH/mindless could match him(say im lyin)

by the way, youre lying.

War hulk>Savage Hulk>WWH

Originally posted by carver9
I didnt contradict myself war hulk had to use a whip to stop the juggernaut and he also had the aid of celestial tech. So lets put it like this, it was a hulk with a plot device. But i know you werent trying to be mean when you said that so no prob with your comment. 😎

Yes you are telling the truth, hulk strength is limitless but its a difference between unlimited and limitless. He has a bring to cross to try and reach the strength of cytorrak and I think that thats a bring that he would never be able to make. By the way war hulk is the strongest of the hulks, it was stated in that same comic. He is the strongest incarnation and still got pushed 2 to 3 miles by the juggernaut before tripping him.

Do you know why the pit the juggernaut against onslaught. Tell me this, how could you make a being look powerful. Lets say if i created two beings and i wanted to know who is the most powerful. I pit one of my beings against batman and he beats the hell out of batman physically but batman get some well placed hits. Lets say that I pit the other being against thanos and he beat the hell out of thanos but thanos gets some well placed hits. Which one of the beings would look the most powerful. I think being 2 would. Thats what juggernaut was to onslaught. He was someone to make onslaught look good. He was a powerful being that got owned by another powerful being to make the other person look good. It happens in comics all the time.

Classic Juggernaut>>Hulk

Originally posted by strengthkills
war stopped him before the vines ,hence juggs yelling impossible
WWH>savage>war(basing on potential)its true if hulk stays like WWH then he will have unlimited strength and durability/stamina
ill say its a tie...... i wish hercules was the strongest but meh

By the way out of all of the hulks it should be like this.

War hulk>mindless hulk>savage hulk>wwh

Mindless hulk was creating hurricanes while punching. Savage hulk took on hercules, vision, ironman, wonderman, etc.... by himself and was holding his own and beating all of them. That is a feat that i cant see wwh hulk doing right now even though he is powerful as hell. It was already classified in comics that war hulk was the strongest of all of the hulks.

Thats what the narrator said himself.

Originally posted by strengthkills
hulks strength is infinite/limitless,juggs got stopped=not unlimited
onslaught pwned juggs in that same comic=contradiction
he was endowed with celestial tech(he was im not disagreein)to stabalize his power and keep him from dying(his durability was waning and was gonna die)because of the energy that was being put into him to keep the heroes reborn universe and 616 together/linked
that is why he was amped [/B]

War Hulk's strength was boosted really boosted. He was able to stop Juggernaut because he had Celestial energy. It is noted more than once that Juggs can't be stopped by a purely physical force of nature. So a normal Hulk wouldn't be able to stop him no matter what. The ground couldn't support it.

Plus Juggernaut was severely weakened when Onslaught tore the "nonexistent" gem from his chest.

Originally posted by Ptr_Grifin
War Hulk's strength was boosted really boosted. He was able to stop Juggernaut because he had Celestial energy. It is noted more than once that Juggs can't be stopped by a purely physical force of nature. So a normal Hulk wouldn't be able to stop him no matter what. The ground couldn't support it.

Plus Juggernaut was severely weakened when Onslaught tore the "nonexistent" gem from his chest.

Originally posted by strengthkills
yeah hulk had the armor because of the universal energies flowing through him that were slowly killing him,celestial tech helped him contain and harness it,i have seen it explained a billion times and if,IF i can find a link ill post it,besides the tech only increased his base strength and cancelled his anger,anger is what makes WWH so strong and all the childlike incarnations strong believe me any(childlike) hulk could reach and surpass war in strength(unlimited)

The Celetial energy was basically infinite. He no longer needed the rage thing, he could call on more strength at will. Much better than have "infinite anger".