Originally posted by Violent2DopeAlright. 🙂
Well I see why you would think it would sound biased but when I said that I was just saying end results, the fight would not be that short. I change my mind however that it wouldn't be a curbstomp, provided he uses final form, but I think Kratos would win. Yes I watched the vid.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kratos beat Zeus, without his Godlike power. Also, the Gods in God of War games are stronger IMO. Strength not a big factor? It'll be a big factor when Kratos takes one of Sora's blows like a sponge, grabs him and crushes his windpipe. The Golden Fleece is not hard to use, block a melee attack and then Kratos will counter by slamming his blades on the ground causing a firy shockwave. Kratos fights Gorgons, quick, agile, and hard as hell to hit. Kratos could lift up a piece of earth or a pillar or something and throw it at Sora, crushing him. With his bow he could rapidly fire wind arrows which are EXTREMELY hard to miss with. Atlas quake will pound the ground and send Sora flying in the air where Kratos will be able to grab him with his chain blades and slam him on the ground with them. Euryale's blast, a move that can be done with he head and a fast move at that, if it hit would turn him to stone instantly leaving him easy pickings for his blades.
True but then again he was using God forged weapons so I imagine the magic in them allowed him to get past Zeus' invulnerability. unless anyone could kill a God in Kratos' world. And I never said strength wasn't a factor merely that Sora has a good countermeasure, His speed and magic abilities. Sora can give a quick couple of strikes and then escape with Quick Run and Glide. It's not just a lump of metal you know it's an extremely powerful magical weapon and given the things Sora's faced down with it I hardly think Kratos will just ignore any shot. And no the fleece isn't hard to use but i don't believe that Kratos can counter everything Sora will throw at him and it only takes one shot to create an opening, and even if he does get to strike Sora has a shockwave counter of his own that knocks his enemies horrifically off balance. Any thing Kratos picks up and throws can be dodged or destroyed with the Keyblade as at the end of KH2 Xemnas is throwing buildings at Sora and he's wrecking them with single shots. Typhons Bow doesn't home its merely fast and and can be dodged or Sora could use the sniper reaction command and teleport in Kratos' face get a couple of shots in form his aerial combo and double jump and glide out of range to heal any damage. Euryale's head is the biggest threat for as you said Euryale's blast is quick and instantly turns a person to stone. but I believe that Sora's reflect magic should protect him. Mind you that is simply conjecture on my part.
Originally posted by Lord RyugenOkay when fighting Zeus after losing the Blade of Olympus to him Kratos WRESTLED it out of his hands, so a large part of the fight was done without the sword. Sora also relies heavily on combos to do a large bulk of his damage and that combo would be denied if Kratos could Fleece his first move, but I know that you're saying it wouldn't be some instant win. Kratos locks on to enemies when using Typhon's Bow and can fire many rapid shots, but these could be blocked like how he was blocking Xemnas' lasers so it wouldn't be instant victory, that I can acknowledge. However, the sniper reaction can only work on Xigbar as he was riding Xigbar's beam and using his manipulation of space against him. Reflct may protect him or not, it's just pure speculation but it's not unreasonable to say it won't, but that's only provided he has it cast on him at the moment. You convinced me that it wouldn't be a curbstomp but I still believe Kratos will win.
True but then again he was using God forged weapons so I imagine the magic in them allowed him to get past Zeus' invulnerability. unless anyone could kill a God in Kratos' world. And I never said strength wasn't a factor merely that Sora has a good countermeasure, His speed and magic abilities. Sora can give a quick couple of strikes and then escape with Quick Run and Glide. It's not just a lump of metal you know it's an extremely powerful magical weapon and given the things Sora's faced down with it I hardly think Kratos will just ignore any shot. And no the fleece isn't hard to use but i don't believe that Kratos can counter everything Sora will throw at him and it only takes one shot to create an opening, and even if he does get to strike Sora has a shockwave counter of his own that knocks his enemies horrifically off balance. Any thing Kratos picks up and throws can be dodged or destroyed with the Keyblade as at the end of KH2 Xemnas is throwing buildings at Sora and he's wrecking them with single shots. Typhons Bow doesn't home its merely fast and and can be dodged or Sora could use the sniper reaction command and teleport in Kratos' face get a couple of shots in form his aerial combo and double jump and glide out of range to heal any damage. Euryale's head is the biggest threat for as you said Euryale's blast is quick and instantly turns a person to stone. but I believe that Sora's reflect magic should protect him. Mind you that is simply conjecture on my part.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeJust want to make some points:
Okay when fighting Zeus after losing the Blade of Olympus to him Kratos WRESTLED it out of his hands, so a large part of the fight was done without the sword. Sora also relies heavily on combos to do a large bulk of his damage and that combo would be denied if Kratos could Fleece his first move, but I know that you're saying it wouldn't be some instant win. Kratos locks on to enemies when using Typhon's Bow and can fire many rapid shots, but these could be blocked like how he was blocking Xemnas' lasers so it wouldn't be instant victory, that I can acknowledge. However, the sniper reaction can only work on Xigbar as he was riding Xigbar's beam and using his manipulation of space against him. Reflct may protect him or not, it's just pure speculation but it's not unreasonable to say it won't, but that's only provided he has it cast on him at the moment. You convinced me that it wouldn't be a curbstomp but I still believe Kratos will win.
1. Sora locks onto enemies as well.
2. Even though the Warp Snipe command only works on Xigbar and Sniper Nobodies, he still has the ability to teleport.
3. Sora's Reflega defends against any attack in the game.
Originally posted by Xenogears1. Never said he didn't but has he locked with anyone of Zeus' strength?
Just want to make some points:1. Sora locks onto enemies as well.
2. Warp Snipe does not only work on Xigbar. Sora teleports against Lancer Nobodies as well.
3. Sora's Reflega defends against any attack in the game.
BH, please stop, I'm trying to have a serious debate here.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Okay when fighting Zeus after losing the Blade of Olympus to him Kratos WRESTLED it out of his hands, so a large part of the fight was done without the sword. Sora also relies heavily on combos to do a large bulk of his damage and that combo would be denied if Kratos could Fleece his first move, but I know that you're saying it wouldn't be some instant win. Kratos locks on to enemies when using Typhon's Bow and can fire many rapid shots, but these could be blocked like how he was blocking Xemnas' lasers so it wouldn't be instant victory, that I can acknowledge. However, the sniper reaction can only work on Xigbar as he was riding Xigbar's beam and using his manipulation of space against him. Reflct may protect him or not, it's just pure speculation but it's not unreasonable to say it won't, but that's only provided he has it cast on him at the moment. You convinced me that it wouldn't be a curbstomp but I still believe Kratos will win.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope1. He can lock on to Hercules/Hades/Titans, etc.; he can lock on to enemies, bosses, and even items.
1. Never said he didn't but has he locked with anyone of Zeus' strength?
2. No, that reaction is called "jump" and he does it by using the learn command three times.
3. I said it would probably would work.BH, please stop, I'm trying to have a serious debate here.
2. He's learned how to do it...fighting against Xigbar, certain enemies etc. does not give him the ability to teleport, though I know you didn't state that. Warp Snipe only works on them yes, but that's because they shoot out that thing he kicks around.
3. It deflects Hades' fireballs, Xemnas' lasers etc.; I'm positive it would work here too.