Originally posted by Xenogears
1. He can lock on to Hercules/Hades/Titans, etc.; he can lock on to enemies, bosses, and even items.2. He's learned how to do it...fighting against Xigbar, certain enemies etc. does not give him the ability to teleport. Warp Snipe only works on them yes, but that's because they shoot out that thing he kicks around.
3. It deflects Hades' fireballs, Xemnas' lasers etc.; I'm positive it would work here too.
Originally posted by Lord RyugenEven without magic Kratos is a melee monster and a damage sponge who can dodge attacks by rolling out of the way, so really the same argument you just made I can use in favor of Kratos, minus the healing add on insane durability, and in straight up melee, no magic Kratos is dominant.
Hmm that is a good point...alright I'll concede the teleport but I still think Sora can block and dodge until Kratos runs out of magic and then just heal away any damage, the end of the Xemnas fight gives a good example of how effective Sora's defense is.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeXigbar and the Sniper Nobodies do not manipulate space foo! 😠
1. Oh I was confused on what you meant by locked on so yeah you're right.
2. No, you mentioned he did the same to the Lancer Nobodies, he uses a reaction command called learn three times and then does a reaction command called jump. Sora cannot teleport, he uses the snipers and Xigbars beam which manipulates space to ride it and yse it to his advantage.
3. I agreed with you.
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Without magic Kratos loses all his ranged options, Sora can wear him down by keeping out of Kratos' range and blasting him with random magic attacks so Kratos has a hard time countering with the fleece. Won't stop him but it'll give Sora an advantage, and if he keeps up hit and run tactics with the combo finishers by using the negative combo skill and Fenrir he can continuously knock Kratos away. It'll take a long time but it's a good way for sora to win.
Originally posted by XenogearsYes they do, every Organization member manipulates an element, that's Xigbar's. These aren't the classic earth, water, fire and air elements either. Notice how Xigbar warps, stands upsidedown, and all that shit. That's space manipulation. The sniper nobodies are controlled by Xigbar, and as such possess the same powers, but on a smaller scale.
Xigbar and the Sniper Nobodies do not manipulate space foo! 😠hug
Originally posted by Lord RyugenKratos isn't easy to hit man. A combination of the Fleece, dodge roll, and his insane durability he can wait for Sora to run out of magic and proceed to melee fight him, which is a fight Kratos will likely win. Also, Kratos is capable of reversing blows like Sora, as shown the way he beats Zeus.
Without magic Kratos loses all his ranged options, Sora can wear him down by keeping out of Kratos' range and blasting him with random magic attacks so Kratos has a hard time countering with the fleece. Won't stop him but it'll give Sora an advantage, and if he keeps up hit and run tactics with the combo finishers by using the negative combo skill and Fenrir he can continuously knock Kratos away. It'll take a long time but it's a good way for sora to win.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeI stand corrected then. However, keep in mind that the command Sora does against the Dragoon Nobodies is also a teleport, and although it is learned it is...learned. He could not've forgetten how to do it.
Yes they do, every Organization member manipulates an element, that's Xigbar's. These aren't the classic earth, water, fire and air elements either. Notice how Xigbar warps, stands upsidedown, and all that shit. That's space manipulation. The sniper nobodies are controlled by Xigbar, and as such possess the same powers, but on a smaller scale.
Originally posted by XenogearsWhy does he not use it any other time then? He learns it by watching the Lancer nobodies and then uses it against them.
I stand corrected then. However, keep in mind that the command Sora does against the Dragoon Nobodies is also a teleport, and although it is learned it is...learned. He could not've forgetten how to do it.
true but in a melee fight i tend to pick the faster guy, Sora can unleash a strike and if it doesn't work he can escape and wait for another chance. In that kind of a fight I say Sora has an advantage, if he hits Kratos gets knocked out of range for a counter attack and if it doesn't then Sora has a good chance to get into a good definsive postition. Although if it goes that far then this infinate Rage of the Titans is really going to start working in Kratos' favour.
Originally posted by Lord RyugenKratos if he fails a strike can do the same thing and roll away(which he does very quickly). In melee Kratos has more range, strength, his strikes are fast, and are on fire(which is cool) 😎
true but in a melee fight i tend to pick the faster guy, Sora can unleash a strike and if it doesn't work he can escape and wait for another chance. In that kind of a fight I say Sora has an advantage, if he hits Kratos gets knocked out of range for a counter attack and if it doesn't then Sora has a good chance to get into a good definsive postition. Although if it goes that far then this infinate Rage of the Titans is really going to start working in Kratos' favour.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeIt makes no sense that Sora has to learn how to do something each times he confronts an enemy. It's simply a game mechanic. I mean, you could use the learn command 20 times during the battle with Xaldin.
Why does he not use it any other time then? He learns it by watching the Lancer nobodies and then uses it against them.
Originally posted by XenogearsYou have a point but this kinda brings us to a stalemate as there's no evidence to say he can use it against Kratos but there's none that says he can.
It makes no sense that Sora has to learn how to do something each times he confronts an enemy. It's simply a game mechanic. I mean, you could use the learn command 20 times during the battle with Xaldin.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Kratos if he fails a strike can do the same thing and roll away(which he does very quickly). In melee Kratos has more range, strength, his strikes are fast, and are on fire(which is cool) 😎