Cosmis Spiderman vs Superman

Started by Blight9 pages

Are you serious?

Originally posted by tooa/presence
I am confused. Who is the normal superman and who is the enemy? The old one is Clark Kent right?

What does sbp mean and what does E-2 stand for?

There are three guys. The teenager, Superboy Prime (sbp is short for it) is the enemy.
Our superman is the not old one. He is the only one hurt by kryptonite because the other two are not from that universe.

The old guy is e-2 superman. E-2 stands for earth 2, which was a destroyed earth.

okay so why bring up "wasn't it established that only kryptonite from a kryptonian's native universe could affect him in IC?"

Superman is still hurt by kryptonite

Because Gold Kryptonite is from Pre Crisis Earth.

Let me get this straight. You obviously know next to nothing about Superman and claim that other people know nothing about Spiderman and, in fact, tell the not to argue BECAUSE of that.

Do you see the hypocrisy?

Originally posted by Blight
Because Gold Kryptonite is from Pre Crisis Earth.

okay but kryptonite is still his weakness.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
"And Superman is far from my favorite character"

That doen't mean you're not a fanboy. You just said that to raise your credibility. A major percentage of your posts are on Superman.

"I just know him better than most do"

No, you just know Superman better than you know other characters.

"since most admittedly hate the character"

How do most admittedly hate the character? He was #2 on VH1's 200 Greatest Pop Culture Icons List. If anything too many people like him that they just choose him for the win no matter what.

I post in many threads all over the board. And I don't have to raise credibility for anything.

I know Superman a lot, sure, but no more than I know Batman, or Green Lantern, or a lot of others. I collect a lot of books each week.

What VH1's pop culture icon list, and what takes place on this forum are two different things. Superman is the most hated character on this forum, which is what I was describing in the other post.

Anyways, I like how you tried to make this an attack on my credibility of sorts, because yourself and others couldn't back up anything about the character you claim can beat Superman.

Great debating skills.

Superman takes this...

Originally posted by Juntai
And Superman is far from my favorite character, I just know him better than most do, since most admittedly hate the character - given that there's been multiple threads about hated characters and Supes always leads the way. Hell, one guy even admitted in this very thread. In the previous CS vs Superman thread there's a whole brigade of them, and that's why he said "Superman haters unite!"

And he may have the powers to theoretically grab a win, but so do characters that Superman cuts swathe through week in week out.. But like what I posted above, this is unproven hypothetical drivel, vs what's tried and true to likely happen.

Yea, but you definitely love DC. I can speak for myself and say I really don't hate either.

How does he know about Gold K-nite. Cosmic awareness.

So why can't he win is as up for grabs as why he can. Classic SS can beat Supes so I'm guessing that Cosmic can too. How many wins is up for grabs.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
How does he know about Gold K-nite. Cosmic awareness.

Wait, Cosmic Spider-man is going to know about a destroyed and erased universe's history of kryptonite? Doubtful. "Cosmic Awareness" is not only a cop out answer for people to use in threads for characters to gain almost impossible knowledge (and in a lot of cases... nonexistent knowledge), but it's also a baseless and obtuse tactic to use when you can't prove anything. Can I possibly see some evidentiary support to back the claim that Cosmic Spider-man's cosmic awareness can do something even REMOTELY close to what people are saying he's going to do with it in this fight?

That's what I thought. Spider-man wouldn't know anything about gold kryptonite.

Besides, gold k-nite is worthless against E1 Superman.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
So why can't he win is as up for grabs as why he can. Classic SS can beat Supes so I'm guessing that Cosmic can too. How many wins is up for grabs.

And therein lies the problem. Too many people think Cosmic Spider-man = Surfer. 😆 Not by a long shot.

Also, when one asks for any amount of evidence at all as to why Cosmic Spider-man beats Superman, people throw assumptions and unsubstantiated crap out there.

Pitiful.

Originally posted by tooa/presence
I am confused. Who is the normal superman and who is the enemy? The old one is Clark Kent right?

What does sbp mean and what does E-2 stand for?


How about you prove that with scans...or something...

Blah Blah Blah..i love when people just bash other's ideas..

The problem starts with the rules..and gets worse with on panel feats
How many feats does TOAA have? Or the Presence? who would win? same tier -same power set,lets go to feats...?

Cosmic spiderman can and will win some out of ten..well within the characters abilities

But i will agree his feats are not up to par

Cosmic awareness is not a cop out...so sad to even argue it..blame marvel its a power ..it is used for just this purpose

People calling other peoples views drivil is a very easy cop out when people want to have fun and join the debates,who are not sitting on top of boxes of comics and a scanner ready..i understand when they keep trying to demeen a character ..but someone who just wants to state their view gets insulted..people c'mon its comic books

Originally posted by starlock
Cosmic awareness is not a cop out...so sad to even argue it..blame marvel its a power ..it is used for just this purpose

So you think Cosmic Awareness will allow him to gain knowledge of something from an erased universe?

crylaugh

Originally posted by batdude123
So you think Cosmic Awareness will allow him to gain knowledge of something from an erased universe?

crylaugh

Your so funny hehe how mature of you

What i am saying is if someone is fighting another character with cosmic awareness..if he has any weakness and the character uses cosmic awareness..he will be able to know what it is..if he can utilize the info is another matter

Originally posted by starlock
Your so funny hehe how mature of you

What i am saying is if someone is fighting another character with cosmic awareness..if he has any weakness and the character uses cosmic awareness..he will be able to know what it is..if he can utilize the info is another matter


What he's saying is that Gold K doesn't exist and even if it did, it wouldn't be a weakness for Superman.

gold hasn't affected supes since coie. specially since it doens't exist right now. how does cosmic awareness find something that doesn't canonically exist?

Originally posted by Juntai
I post in many threads all over the board. And I don't have to raise credibility for anything.

I know Superman a lot, sure, but no more than I know Batman, or Green Lantern, or a lot of others. I collect a lot of books each week.

What VH1's pop culture icon list, and what takes place on this forum are two different things. Superman is the most hated character on this forum, which is what I was describing in the other post.

Anyways, I like how you tried to make this an attack on my credibility of sorts, because yourself and others couldn't back up anything about the character you claim can beat Superman.

Great debating skills.

no hes not

Originally posted by Validus
What he's saying is that Gold K doesn't exist and even if it did, it wouldn't be a weakness for Superman.

Great but if he has a weakness cosmic awareness will know what it is? am i correct? now what he does with the information is another thing..

Now why doesnt someone quote me and say"what he is saying is that if there is a weakness cosmic awareness can find out what it is"

Originally posted by starlock
Great but if he has a weakness cosmic awareness will know what it is? am i correct? now what he does with the information is another thing..

Now why doesnt someone quote me and say"what he is saying is that if there is a weakness cosmic awareness can find out what it is"


Great but the last page or so of this debate about whether or not Spider-Man can make Gold K.

Now why doesn't someone quote me and say "What he is saying is that is that debating whether or not Spider-Man can make Gold K is fruitless since it won't work anyway."

how about his cosmic awareness tells him to just make superman a normal human using molecular manipulation?

is that a good enuff argument for you guys?

how about turning the air around him in to 154 ft of adimantium?

how about cosmic spider man was stronger than any other hero in the marvel universe and just pummels superman to death?

Originally posted by strengthkills
no hes not

sorry I'm not a comic book nerd and don't waste my money on stuff i can read for free. As far as I'm concerned and to most the people in the world, Superman has a weakness to kryptonite. If Superman is immune to kryptonite now, well that is bullshit because then he'd be nearly invincible (actually not really doomsday killed him which is a fact that can't be debated). I'm pretty sure they didn't retcon superman to be immune to kryptonite and if doomsday could kill superman, then how can the silver surfer, cosmic spiderman, etc not be able too.