Kain and Raziel vs. Sephiroth and Cloud

if immortality is allowed then team B will be pwned continuously..
1 lok character seph could handle
2?? hell no

He might be able to handle 2, if he gets the jump on them he could take out Kain first, and then proceed to deal with Raziel, who wouldn't be as hard of an opponent.

raz and kain are pretty much equals, if both have their fully charged weapons 😬
and if cloud was taken down, both characters would be replenished by soul/blood stealing, leaving seph to fight kain and raz, both fully recharged..
again, your assuming that kain will be taken down by a single cut, and that kain is too slow to retaliate..if anything, seph has a bigger changed of being jumped..

I think Sephiroth still has a decent chance of taking them both down, if anything CLoud would be a good distraction to fight, and even if he did die he's have held their attention long enough to kill at least one of them.

then its back to the same "whoever attacks first wins" kinda fighting 😬
and if we go back to 2 vs seph, then seph loses..they both have ways of simply stopping seph in his tracks, leaving him completely open, not to mention once clouds dead, both will have enough charge to use their full reaver attacks on seph..
last of all, what could seph do against kain's mist form??

There's still the problem of Sephiroth resisting their stop attacks though, and if Sephiroth can use materia, then he could stop them just as easily. This fight has too many factors to have any kind of clear result.

how can he stop them if he is frozen in time?? 😛

madmels got some good points also Sephiroth doesnt win durabilitywise...kain gets his heart torn out.. (completly diffrent from having them chopped, actually torn out) then he gets launched through a dimensional rift...he heals his chest nearly instantanously, it seems as soon as he gets up his chest is sealed up, he doesnt regrow his heart but he doesnt even feel very queesy, barely troubled at all apart from amazed hes still alive.

Also his will you keep saying about has not been proven, just because he doesnt get taken by this goddess thing doesnt mean just because he wills it, it happens against every opponent. As i said before, mindspark will effect him, mind spark doesnt attack the mind, it actually sends a current that shuts off the brain itself, physically and knocks it offline. It doesnt matter how strong his will is, if he doesnt know somethings happening he cannot stop it, and then his brain will be dead.

kain has too many ways to win, all he has to do is power the Dimension or time reavers and hes won...time reaver will stop time, first Sephiroth would not know its happening anyway so he couldnt will anything...hed be frozen..then its kains turn to play OR activating dimension reaver he would faster than anything Cloud and Sephiroth can muster warp time and space to slash both Cloud and Sephi into pieces with dimenstional warp attacks, turning them into flesh slices..kain wins.

OR he can win through submission using TK to shackle them, then their his toys.

and thats forgetting Raziel who can open his own can of whoop@ss, he uses light, dark attacks along with tonnes of elemental ones.

After everything I saw Sephiroth do, I doubt attacking his soul will kill/stop him. But there is nothing he can do against time-freeze.

Victory for team 1.

Also his will you keep saying about has not been proven, just because he doesnt get taken by this goddess thing doesnt mean just because he wills it, it happens against every opponent. As i said before, mindspark will effect him, mind spark doesnt attack the mind, it actually sends a current that shuts off the brain itself, physically and knocks it offline. It doesnt matter how strong his will is, if he doesnt know somethings happening he cannot stop it, and then his brain will be dead.

Now I know mind spark would have no effect on him. AC Sephiroth doesn't have a brain or organs, he is negative spirit energy and Jenova matter, so there would be nothing for mind spark to have an affect on.

well he would have to mind rape him then using the mind emblem if he wanted to use his mind, but it doesnt matter, he would use spirit death, soul attacking attacks

if he doesnt have blood and organs and what sounds to me like a physical form, how did Cloud own him with his Omnislash?

And FYI, Kain actually can go intangible. No one brought that up on this page it seems. Maybe last page but I'm not bothering as I have crap to do.

if he doesnt have blood and organs and what sounds to me like a physical form, how did Cloud own him with his Omnislash?

Omnislash is an insanely powerful attack boosted by massive amounts of spirit energy hitting multiple times from multiple angles. It destroyed the bit of Jenova Sephiroth used to come back, leaving only the negative mako, Kadaj's body.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
Omnislash is an insanely powerful attack boosted by massive amounts of spirit energy hitting multiple times from multiple angles. It destroyed the bit of Jenova Sephiroth used to come back, leaving only the negative mako, Kadaj's body.

spirit energy, kains and the reavers specialty, Kain solos this with ease if thats the case, Sephiroth gets owned bad

So now Seph apparently can't die? How lovley. It's also bullshit. Team 2 loses miserably.

spirit energy, kains and the reavers specialty, Kain solos this with ease if thats the case, Sephiroth gets owned bad

You fail to factor in Sephiroth's will, which prevent anything from harming his spirit.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
You fail to factor in Sephiroth's will, which prevent anything from harming his spirit.

except Clouds Omnislash/? right right right....i think your making this up and will ignore his will until you can prove it...everyone knows (most except ofcoure maybe you) on this forum what the reaver can do, but this Will nonsense about Sephiroth has not been brought up before..so prove it

His will prevented him from merging with the lifestream, he wouldresist the reaver. CLoud's Omnislash did 0 damage to his spirit, it only destoyed the Jenova matter. Sephiroth would just kill Kain and Raziel while Cloud distracted them. Sephiroth's spirit is an unbeatable existence.

Originally posted by fascistcrusader
His will prevented him from merging with the lifestream, he wouldresist the reaver. CLoud's Omnislash did 0 damage to his spirit, it only destoyed the Jenova matter. Sephiroth would just kill Kain and Raziel while Cloud distracted them. Sephiroth's spirit is an unbeatable existence.

AC Sephiroth doesn't have a head to cut off. Besides, even if we're keeping eveyone's invincibility on, either Cloud or Seph could just use a time materia to Stop Kain and Raziel, then just leave them there.