Originally posted by darthgooberI'm not sure if Seid, is a really a person, whose into fighting with h2h. He only stated that in Hunter/Prey, which really isn't the BEST source, we can base the character off of.
SBP take the majority in this. Yes I know that things like BFR are an option for DS, but the fact is that he's the type that LIKES to get in there and mix it up h2h, and him settling for something like a BFR when bloodlusted would be out of character for him.
Originally posted by starking
I'm not sure if Seid, is a really a person, whose into fighting with h2h. He only stated that in Hunter/Prey, which really isn't the BEST source, we can base the character off of.
Originally posted by darthgoober
SBP take the majority in this. Yes I know that things like BFR are an option for DS, but the fact is that he's the type that LIKES to get in there and mix it up h2h, and him settling for something like a BFR when bloodlusted would be out of character for him.
I find that hard to believe,in my thirty plus years reading comics,i thought H2H was uncommon for DS? if we go by the last five years even 10 maybe but it is not the majority in the years i remember....but memory can fail at times,i could be wrong
Darkseid still wins this
I would have been impressed if he leveled all the heroes before he left for space in IC,instead we have Martian Manhunter throw him a beating(a showing that shows MM can beat sbp imo) and superboy conner stalemate him..i am not that impressed by characters that are plot devices...but that is just me
Originally posted by darthgoober
You'd have a point if DS didn't have a history of wanting to take on folks h2h. See the thing is, DS is bloodlusted in this match up(as per forum rules) which means that he WANTS to take SBP on. DS may teleport people away to allow him to further his scheme or aid his retreat, but when it's go time he likes to get in there and duke it out. And given that SBP is a notch or two ahead of Supes, I'd say that DS is going to have MAJOR problems putting him down.
IF, and I say IF, Darkseid goes only H2H, he's gonna have a very tough fight.
If he uses any of his actual powers, SBP is done. And to claim otherwise is to insult Darkseid. 🙄 You can't claim the OE will fail to erase him, or that SBP will withstand blasts from it. Or reality warping. Or power drain. Or TP.
Realistically, if Darkseid uses even a 5th of his actual powerset, he's got this.
Originally posted by darthgooberNo, Seid only used h2h against Supes, and all three of those showings, where EMBARRASSING pieces of crap. There's no true indication, on how strong Ds truly is, so to say Seid is into h2h, is mostly speculation,
You'd have a point if DS didn't have a history of wanting to take on folks h2h. See the thing is, DS is bloodlusted in this match up(as per forum rules) which means that he WANTS to take SBP on. DS may teleport people away to allow him to further his scheme or aid his retreat, but when it's go time he likes to get in there and duke it out. And given that SBP is a notch or two ahead of Supes, I'd say that DS is going to have MAJOR problems putting him down.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
IF, and I say IF, Darkseid goes only H2H, he's gonna have a very tough fight.If he uses any of his actual powers, SBP is done. And to claim otherwise is to insult Darkseid. 🙄 You can't claim the OE will fail to erase him, or that SBP will withstand blasts from it. Or reality warping. Or power drain. Or TP.
Realistically, if Darkseid uses even a 5th of his actual powerset, he's got this.
Physical confrontation DS loses.
The OE has been deflected by HV and possibly will be again.
Why can't SBP withstand blast from DS?
Reality warping?
He's going to drain his power with the anti monitor armor placed on him? Not that it matters as SBP was shown operating on high lv's even after being weakened.
TP would be DS best bet.
Originally posted by The Problem
Physical confrontation DS loses.The OE has been deflected by HV and possibly will be again.
Why can't SBP withstand blast from DS?
Reality warping?
He's going to drain his power with the anti monitor armor placed on him? Not that it matters as SBP was shown operating on high lv's even after being weakened.
TP would be DS best bet.
In order.
1. Yeah, possibly true.
2. PIS. DOES NOT COUNT. The OE is not getting deflected by freaking heat vision. 🙄
3. .....................I'm not even going to bother answering this one.
4. He's got no defense against reality warping.
5. He's drained Mordru, a controller, skyfathers and many more. Why should SBP give him trouble? And what's stopping him from destroying the armor, or matter manipulating him?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
IF, and I say IF, Darkseid goes only H2H, he's gonna have a very tough fight.If he uses any of his actual powers, SBP is done. And to claim otherwise is to insult Darkseid. 🙄 You can't claim the OE will fail to erase him, or that SBP will withstand blasts from it. Or reality warping. Or power drain. Or TP.
Realistically, if Darkseid uses even a 5th of his actual powerset, he's got this.
Originally posted by The ProblemYou mean the instance, where Seid had the Oe reflected, in that embarrasment, Apokolips now? Yeah, just to let you know, the Oe has worked on MUCH more power opponents. Such as......
Physical confrontation DS loses.The OE has been deflected by HV and possibly will be again.
Why can't SBP withstand blast from DS?
Reality warping?
He's going to drain his power with the anti monitor armor placed on him? Not that it matters as SBP was shown operating on high lv's even after being weakened.
TP would be DS best bet.
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Originally posted by starking
No, Seid only used h2h against Supes, and all three of those showings, where EMBARRASSING pieces of crap. There's no true indication, on how strong Ds truly is, so to say Seid is into h2h, is mostly speculation,
Given that number of h2h battles, and two instances of DS pretty much directly saying that he likes to handle things man to man, I'd say it's a pretty much established part of his character to try to beat his opponent on his own terms.
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
In order.1. Yeah, possibly true.
2. PIS. DOES NOT COUNT. The OE is not getting deflected by freaking heat vision. 🙄
3. .....................I'm not even going to bother answering this one.
4. He's got no defense against reality warping.
5. He's drained Mordru, a controller, skyfathers and many more. Why should SBP give him trouble? And what's stopping him from destroying the armor, or matter manipulating him?
1. No, is true.
2. PIS is an inherently opinion/perception based rule. It doesn't make sense, as its just a "delete" button for any showings someone doesn't like. Which in this case, you can't except the fact that the OE can be deflected so you ignore it.
3. Because your incapable of forming a coherent argument that will hold? SBP is capable of taking any of DS blast with the exception of the OE, which coincidently can be deflected.
4. I would like to see scans or proof that DS can actually warp reality. Funny though, because SBP can do the same.
5. I would like to see scans of the said instances.
Originally posted by starking
You mean the instance, where Seid had the Oe reflected, in that embarrasment, Apokolips now? Yeah, just to let you know, the Oe has worked on MUCH more power opponents. Such as......http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid101/p6a9d963c9bf1d453cc02e8f39e19024d/f9db7939.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid67/pa3dc34a72e383294e662d0d93f4cc4c0/fbd7b508.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p0b61009840e364c381c4570f49b851cb/f9e393e8.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/pc086560f5f6ca9b50bbe8fd46127b1ff/f9e65927.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid100/p76eabd5cf26449412ba384ea7f6b724f/f9e658f8.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid91/pc677ab2c0b95683cd3079854cf6f5809/fa661adf.jpg
ROFL you put a picture of Spectre taking the OE straight to the face like nothing and count that as a feat in Darkseid's favor? 😆
Originally posted by darthgooberThat's not true, Ds has ONLY lost Superman, 3 times in a canon source. And Raker didn't defeat Ds, Seid stated, that he was HOLDING back, and needed Raker for his personal reasons.
DS has lost to Supes h2h at least FIVE times since COIE, he also has a 1 on 1 loss to Ryker(which I'll admit he should have won, but it still supports his wanting to mix it up), and unless I'm mistaken several h2h battles with Orion.Given that number of h2h battles, and two instances of DS pretty much directly saying that he likes to handle things man to man, I'd say it's a pretty much established part of his character to try to beat his opponent on his own terms.
Besides, the confrontation, was WAY to brief, to make ANY conclusions off of. Not only that, but it was interrupted.
Originally posted by The Problem
1. No, is true.2. PIS is an inherently opinion/perception based rule. It doesn't make sense, as its just a "delete" button for any showings someone doesn't like. Which in this case, you can't except the fact that the OE can be deflected so you ignore it.
3. Because your incapable of forming a coherent argument that will hold? SBP is capable of taking any of DS blast with the exception of the OE, which coincidently can be deflected.
4. I would like to see scans or proof that DS can actually warp reality. Funny though, because SBP can do the same.
5. I would like to see scans of the said instances.
Mr. Miracle Refers to the events in Seven Soldiers. DS not only alters reality, He creates them. And He also used Reality alteration in GDS. which is in contiuity again.
