Kyle Rayner vs Superman

Started by batdude12310 pages
Originally posted by Tazer
John didnt cheap-shot Supes, and as Val said previously John wasnt knocked out. BUT neither did Supes break his construct; the construct held but the force of the blow was strong enuff to knock it AND John outta the WT.

What the f*ck are you talking about? John's construct was SHATTERED.

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sconstructkt6.jpg

Kyle. One Universal big Bang holding Bubble and It's good night Supers. Or an entire free thinking JLA does the Trick. Superman's S shield aura should have no place here under KMC rules. Kyle 7/10

he also held an area bubble that Ultraman could not break 😬

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kyle. One Universal big Bang holding Bubble and It's good night Supers. Or an entire free thinking JLA does the Trick. Superman's S shield aura should have no place here under KMC rules. Kyle 7/10

Originally posted by batdude123
During that same arc, one Imperiex probe owned J'onn, Wally, and Kyle quite easily.

And when Superman stopped holding back, he ran through a bunch of them like tissue paper. 🙂

And you actually think Kyle operating at that level is common?

Please, In Green Lantern: Recharge, it took all 7200 lanterns with fully powered rings to contain one star. Kyle's constructs are far from unbreakable.

CasanoVa wasn't too far off when he said Green Lanterns, especially Kyle, are overrated on this forum.

5/10 for both.

Yo.

Originally posted by batdude123
What the f*ck are you talking about? John's construct was [B]SHATTERED.

http://img69.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sconstructkt6.jpg [/B]

tbh I didnt remember it that way, but so be it: I was wrong and admit it.

Tazer

Originally posted by Tazer
Yo.

tbh I didnt remember it that way, but so be it: I was wrong and admit it.

Tazer

It's okay. You're right most of the times... so meh.

Yo.

Originally posted by batdude123
And you actually think Kyle operating at that level is common?

Please, In Green Lantern: Recharge, it took all 7200 lanterns with fully powered rings to contain one star. Kyle's constructs are far from unbreakable.

CasanoVa wasn't too far off when he said Green Lanterns, especially Kyle, are overrated on this forum.

5/10 for both.

1) as they were in the midst of the recruitment drive they had FAR less than 7200 GLs there; they prolly had about 300 - 500 all told w/vets & rookies combined.

2) they werent trying to contain that star, but were forcing it thru a wormhole made by the Spider Guild.

Tazer

leftover scans I have of Kyle:

-Kyle makes a prison for the CSA and holds them for over a day. Ultraman (evil Superman) tries for hours to break it and fails. Kyle kept this up while attending to other business on Earth. Not even their version of Green Lantern could break it.
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20441wd.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20452yu.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20525fm.jpg
http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20538vf.jpg

-Kyle Vs Amazo 2000. The version of the Amazo had the powers of nearly every superhero on Earth. The JSA, JLA, Marvel family, Strange Visitor, Firestorm, etc.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p348nw.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p359ov.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg

Originally posted by Blair Wind
leftover scans I have of Kyle:

-Kyle makes a prison for the CSA and holds them for over a day. Ultraman (evil Superman) tries for hours to break it and fails. Kyle kept this up while attending to other business on Earth. Not even their version of Green Lantern could break it.
http://img101.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20441wd.jpg
http://img260.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20452yu.jpg
http://img331.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20525fm.jpg
http://img419.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hrjlaearth20538vf.jpg

-Kyle Vs Amazo 2000. The version of the Amazo had the powers of nearly every superhero on Earth. The JSA, JLA, Marvel family, Strange Visitor, Firestorm, etc.
http://img141.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p336gb.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p348nw.jpg
http://img133.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p359ov.jpg
http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p368nd.jpg
http://img145.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dcu2000secretfiles1p370nr.jpg

And? Averages count for a lot more than top showings, B-Dub. Otherwise Superman is an omniverse saving, multiversal reality warper destroying, god-slaying, team thrashing, Darkseid stompin' bastich who has no peers under herald level.

5/10 split.

Originally posted by batdude123
And? Averages count for a lot more than top showings, B-Dub. Otherwise Superman is an omniverse saving, multiversal reality warper destroying, god-slaying, team thrashing, Darkseid stompin' bastich who has no peers under herald level.

5/10 split.

Kyle has Many more options of beating Superman than Supers has of beating Kyle. Kyle wins against Superman as many times as surfer does. 7-8/10. Hell Kyle can do shit the surfer cannot. Ring Suck for the win. Automotons of the JLA. High End shields. Matter transmutation. Or Kyle gives himself Daxamite DNA and holds on to the ring.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kyle has Many more options of beating Superman than Supers has of beating Kyle. Kyle wins against Superman as many times as surfer does. 7-8/10. Hell Kyle can do shit the surfer cannot. Ring Suck for the win. Automotons of the JLA. High End shields. Matter transmutation. Or Kyle gives himself Daxamite DNA and holds on to the ring.
Kyle could do most of those things, however Supes's method of beating Kyle is far simpler and quicker: speed blitz Kyle's shields with strength/HV. Superman's will is stronger and the fight is over as soon as he cracks Kyle's defenses.

Kyle's best offense is to remove Superman's powers with the Ring Suck; on this we agree. Otherwise, I think Supes would wreck anything Kyle throws at him.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kyle has Many more options of beating Superman than Supers has of beating Kyle. Kyle wins against Superman as many times as surfer does. 7-8/10. Hell Kyle can do shit the surfer cannot. Ring Suck for the win. Automotons of the JLA. High End shields. Matter transmutation. Or Kyle gives himself Daxamite DNA and holds on to the ring.

😆 @ the versatility = an automatic win argument. If that were the case, Thor would own Flash. Having the power to do something is less important than the actual EXECUTION of those said powers in a combat situation. That's why Superman makes the versatility argument null.

Anyway, I seem to recall you saying Superman in his "uber" mode is >>>> Surfer and Thor.

Not only are you full of inconsistencies in your comments... you're also full of complete shit.

Originally posted by batdude123
😆 @ the versatility = an automatic win argument. If that were the case, Thor would own Flash. Having the power to do something is less important than the actual EXECUTION of those said powers in a combat situation. That's why Superman makes the versatility argument null.

Anyway, I seem to recall you saying Superman in his "uber" mode is >>>> Surfer and Thor.

Not only are you full of inconsistencies in your comments... you're also full of complete shit.

yes Superman in his uber mode is higher than both of them. But kyle in his uber mode is higher than superman. I have always said that I thought Gls were better than surfer and thor on many occasion. So how that is full of shit is beyond me. GL>uber Superman>Surfer=regular superman=Thor.

Originally posted by Acrosurge
Kyle could do most of those things, however Supes's method of beating Kyle is far simpler and quicker: speed blitz Kyle's shields with strength/HV.

But... but... but Kyle has MORE options!!! My logic is foolproof I say!

Kyle 10/10!!!!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
yes Superman in his uber mode is higher than both of them. But kyle in his uber mode is higher than superman. I have always said that I thought Gls were better than surfer and thor on many occasion. So how that is full of shit is beyond me. GL>uber Superman>Surfer=regular superman=Thor.

I have a feeling you didn't read my edited post. Reread it por favor.

Originally posted by batdude123
CasanoVa wasn't too far off when he said Green Lanterns, especially Kyle, are overrated on this forum.
That's why Wog, and Hal are my favorites.

Also, the Superman/Batman fantoy crying overrated... the irony.
😛

Originally posted by batdude123
I have a feeling you didn't read my edited post. Reread it por favor.

I know what you said. I have always thought the lanters were superior to Surfer and Thor when comparing high end feats. I have said this many times. I also think Superman is superior to them when he's in his uber dc sucking his dick mode. Not once did I ever say superman was over any gl's did I? so how was I a hippocrit?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
yes Superman in his uber mode is higher than both of them. But kyle in his uber mode is higher than superman. I have always said that I thought Gls were better than surfer and thor on many occasion. So how that is full of shit is beyond me. GL>uber Superman>Surfer=regular superman=Thor.

GLs better than Superman, Surfer and Thor.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

So, you're a disgustingly laughable GL mark as well as a Darkised fetishist.

Kid, NO GL save Hal is on those other people's level. Kyle is second rate compared to the elite big timers like Superman Thor and Surfer, kid.

But I wouldn't expect someone who get all of his information from inter net message boards to have enough knowledge to realize that.

Originally posted by panthergod
Kid, NO GL save Hal is on those other people's level. Kyle is second rate compared to the elite big timers like Superman Thor and Surfer, kid.
Sexcellent... sexcellent. 😈

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I know what you said. I have always thought the lanters were superior to Surfer and Thor when comparing high end feats. I have said this many times. I also think Superman is superior to them when he's in his uber dc sucking his dick mode. Not once did I ever say superman was over any gl's did I? so how was I a hippocrit?

Because you said, and I quote: "Kyle wins against Superman as many times as surfer does. 7-8/10."

Then you say that Superman is>>>Surfer? 😕

Also, you really don't seem to be grasping the concept that you can have all the versatility in the world, but if someone has a way of beating you quicker and more efficiently, then you're f*cked.

That's why this fight is 5/10 for both imo.