Originally posted by Joey Stacks
What's the farthest Psylocke has been from anyone that she's managed to take down with a mental attack? .... has she ever even done it from 1 mile away? I doubt it.In the first issue of the Onslaught saga Psylocke was able to detect the Juggernaut attacking the X-mansion, from Europe, with the Magneto blocks in place.
So what? detecting isn't harming .... and is Onslaught era even close to crimson dawn era (or whatever it was you drafted)?
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
You're talking about when Invincible watched his dad repair the dam with no noticable problems and then called him a showoff.
I'm talking about Invincible barely realising the dam was in danger before his dad fixed it.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
If Karate Kid were using his normal human body you'd have a point, but he isn't. In fact, I'd say 8,000,000 is a reasonable number considering people were saying that Invincible is stronger then Wonder Man (who's max is like 50,000) in all actuality (given that you were one of the main people who said Wonder Man and Invincible are around the same strength level) the striking force number should be around 4,000,000,000 (50,000x80,000) tons. Yeah, you let Meemoo hit you, you're screwed buddy.
Uh, no, You're entire amalgam could maybe hit with 80,000 tons of force when maxed out ... and I never said Invincible was as strong as Wonderman, I just agreed with others when they compared the two as I didn't want any ridiculous >>> Iron Man abilities to sneak into the tourney after Invincible was OKed.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Apollo? Superman level? 😂
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Why not? He's in Majestic's strength class and has shown FTL flight speed as well as extremely high level durability and energy projection.
Apollo would kill almost any Iron Man level character without much effort.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
What force? You're mostly intangible brother and can't even move unphased without destroying something
Being out of phase doesn't change his strength/mass, the force is all there and building up while remaining untouchable and only a tiny portion of the character has to un-phase to release that force
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Except that Invincible doesn't get any flight power in this tourney whatsoeverNo, but he does give Karate Kid (who's single character cap is at 200 mph) the DURABILITY to reach max speeds and we all know he does have it in him to reach speeds of MUCH greater then Mach 10.
No, you're wrong there, that would still be just using Karate Kid's flight ring (without any mesh amping) to exceed the caps put on single character abilities.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Looks like your opening attack backfired and you've lost sight of a potent telepath who's unchecked by normal psi dampeners and has the lethal skills of Karate Kid in Invincible's body.
Not really, Meemoo is either dead or badly hurt by the explosion, either way he's in no condition to go into battle.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Abomination could survive nukes too.
Abomination was only allowed in because he's fairly one-dimensional ... if he could fly at superspeed he would have been banned (just like Invincible should have)
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Kitty Pride is the ONLY example you have and Kitty Pride=/=Moonstone.
Kitty was the main example because she's the only phaser I've seen who has fought a telepath.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Storm's mental defenses have NEVER been stated as heightened because of her electrical activity (in fact, in the ONE instance that is being referenced, the Jean Grey instance with the ice cream, it was merely hinted at) she's just always had a assload of willpower.
Willpower does not block telepathy.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
I disagree that 2+2=4
That partially explains your ridiculous calculations regarding your character's strength.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Karla Softon, who's a natural pompous ass that wouldn't think of double checking.
She may act superior but she's trained with the best and fought the toughest villains/heroes, she doesn't take things for granted in battle.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Invincible's strength being at Wonder Man level (I agree actually) I now hit with 4,000,000,000 tons of force
Your math is retarded (and that's putting it nicely)
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Bigfoot growing actually helps me because he increases pain receptors allowing for nerve strikes to do more damage then they naturally cause
Skin density, armour thickness and overall durability also increase exponentially, your attacks are meaningless.
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Apollo is Superman level, might as well argue that Captain America is Spiderman level.
If Cap started showing those abilities I would
Originally posted by Joey Stacks
Thanks to the merger of Karate Kid and Invincible I'm allowed to reach speeds over the caps (hell Karate Kid by himself, who's the single character speed called into question, has a max of only 200 mph)
Nothing Invincible adds to your character increases his ability to fly, the single character speed cap still applies here.
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If you even manage to survive the explosion of the DS then Meemoo will be badly damaged and in no shape for a fight.
The explosion would also be likely to damage/destroy your flight ring which would leave you stranded in space.
If you attempt to strike BF then you would also destroy your flight ring.
There is no evidence of Invincible possessing significant superhuman reaction/movement speed in any area other than flight (which he doesn't even have for this tourney)
Karate Kid is a precision instrument, the fact that he's been shoved into a body he's unfamiliar with will throw off his abilities as his reach/height/balance/etc/etc/etc will all be different than what he is used to.
As for BF's TP defense, it's about reasonable doubt, all the factors I mentioned have hampered TP at one time or other, having all of them together can only work to my advantage.
There is no doubt that BF is vastly stronger than MM, he also has vastly superior durability and flight speed.
You have little or no long range powers and can't strike me when up close due to phasing.
BF has hugely powerful energy blasts and a single strike would crush MM.
You're either injured or dead from the start, your ring is destroyed so you've lost maneuverability, you can't hit BF, you couldn't hurt BF even if you did land a punch, you can't make it through BF's energy blasts as they would be far too wide to avoid and moving at light speed.
I have all the advantages .... Meemoo is screwed.
Originally posted by leonidas
so . . . when does this end? it started late, right, so i assume it goes until at least midnight tonight or tomorrow night? 😕
We were only a few hours late, we've had the full time limit already.
Also, I'm not going to be at my comp after this post for a while so I doubt I'll be posting again tonight.
If this is too late then meh, this month has been the wildest EVER :/ and sorry for lack of scans, time constraints that will be over by the middle of next week.
So what? detecting isn't harming .... and is Onslaught era even close to crimson dawn era (or whatever it was you drafted)?
Onslaught era happened at the beginning of her Crimson Dawn career (notice the Crimson marks on her face throughout the arc), her telepathy was actually getting STRONGER the longer she had the dawn (until the climax with Shadow King). And if she’s able to detect him from that far Meemoo WILL be able to detect your character far before he dectects mine. From then it’s Karate Kid using his Karate skills to sneak up and get the drop on your character (something we all know Val can do) then mind raping for the easy win.
I'm talking about Invincible barely realising the dam was in danger before his dad fixed it.
That just means his dad (who’s 500 years older then him BTW which means he’s MUCH stronger and MUCH more adept with his reactions) is just THAT dam good. Bad pun aside here’s Invincible UNPACKING AND MOVING INTO HIS DORM while holding a conversation with his best friend from AT HIS HOUSE.
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If that doesn’t do it, I think I can pull a few strings and get Jesus himself to tell you that Viltrumite reflexes (not to mention these are Vilturmite reflexes with Val training) are wayyy beyond your characters capabilities :/.
Uh, no, You're entire amalgam could maybe hit with 80,000 tons of force when maxed out ... and I never said Invincible was as strong as Wonderman, I just agreed with others when they compared the two as I didn't want any ridiculous >>> Iron Man abilities to sneak into the tourney after Invincible was OKed.
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Yeah I think that proves enough, look Karate Kid by himself shatters 80,000 ton objects and breaks Daxamite jaws with maybe 600 POUNDS of lifting force (he’s only about as strong as Nightwing if memory serves), Invincible, by your own admission, is in that 50,000 ton Wonderman class, that gives me 4,000,000,000 tons of striking force thanks to Karate Kid being able to strike so precise. Hell you could say Invincible is half as strong as Wonderman and that’s still a shitload of tons.
Why not? He's in Majestic's strength class and has shown FTL flight speed as well as extremely high level durability and energy projection.
He’s a Majestic Class fighter like how Dragon Man is Class 100. Using your logic Dragon Man = Thor, Gladiator, etc. He’s shown ftl speed? Last time I checked he couldn’t even keep up with some random mach speeders and had to be saved by Sparks from being smashed to bits from only less then a hundred Mach speed. When have people like Superman and Captain Marvel been told they’ll be smashed to bits from only moving a few Mach and hitting a force field?
Apollo would kill almost any Iron Man level character without much effort.
I’d give Iron Man himself a VAST majority against Apollo. Hell, in the matches I’ve fought in alone I’d give
Invincible
Thunderstrike
Moonstone
Karate Kid
Dragon Man
the majority over Apollo.
Being out of phase doesn't change his strength/mass, the force is all there and building up while remaining untouchable and only a tiny portion of the character has to un-phase to release that force
So your character is good enough to unphase the small part of your body to hit the Mach 10, telepathic, Viltrumite reflexed Karate Kid?
No, you're wrong there, that would still be just using Karate Kid's flight ring (without any mesh amping) to exceed the caps put on single character abilities.
Without Mesh amping the character Karate Kid has a max speed of 200 mph, WITH the MESH of INVINICBLE + KARATE KID he can now access the top possible speed. Karate Kid’s SINGLE CHARACTER ABILITIY is 200 mph, Karate Kid AND Invincible’s top speed is as fast as Karate Kid has the willpower to go (which in issue 7 of the Legion/J-League arc has been said to be greater then Wonder Woman’s btw).
Not really, Meemoo is either dead or badly hurt by the explosion, either way he's in no condition to go into battle
Untrue, Invincible has NEVER IN HIS CAREER been harmed by explosions (I triple dog mfing dare you to give me ONE scan of him being hurt by an explosion), you can take that as him being over the cap but I take it has being really resilient against explosions when Class 90's have hurt him. Anyway even if he’s slightly hurt he could use TP to ignore the pain.
Abomination was only allowed in because he's fairly one-dimensional ... if he could fly at superspeed he would have been banned (just like Invincible should have)
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Invincible’s superspeed is irrelevant to a banning as there’s no possible way to get both without compromising your overall character and it was neutered to mach 10.
Look, Iron Man has put up and taken wins against people like Sentry, Thor, Silver Surfer, Hulk, etc. Invincible is strong and would give him a good fight, but under NO circumstance will he take more then 3 wins against Starks. This underrating of Starks during this whole draft process has almost sickened me to the point of no return srsly I'm one of the biggest Invincible fanboys around but he CAN NOT take the majority against Starks.
Kitty was the main example because she's the only phaser I've seen who has fought a telepath.
I’ve seen multiple phasers (like Vision and Martian Manhunter for instance) fight telepaths, Kitten is the ONLY example of phasing giving TP resistance. Therefore the burden of proof now lies on you to prove that Moonstone has TP resistance (I’ll give you a hint though: she doesn’t).
Willpower does not block telepathy.
Storm has NEVER, EVER EVER EVER blocked telepathy, she resisted it thanks to her heightened will power (which does give greater RESISTANCE to telepathy).
That partially explains your ridiculous calculations regarding your character's strength.
Point out a flaw, this is all using YOUR WORDS AND YOUR LOGIC BABY.
She may act superior but she's trained with the best and fought the toughest villains/heroes, she doesn't take things for granted in battle.
HA! Just look at her most recent fight with Nova and her crappy recent stint with the Thunderbolts (that’s like the worst leading in comics I’ve seen in MY LIFE).
Your math is retarded (and that's putting it nicely)
Ladies and Gents 50,000x80,000 = 4,000,000,000 is now retarded math. It doesn’t matter that when you put 50,000x80,000 on the calculator you get that number, IT IS RETARDED.
So says Scoobless
Skin density, armour thickness and overall durability also increase exponentially, your attacks are meaningless.
Your nerve points also get bigger, Scoobless, Karate Kid has hurt people like Mon with his nerve strikes, I’m scared to think what he’d do to Big Foots bigger ones with his VASTLY enhanced strength.
If Cap started showing those abilities I would
What abilities? The ability to get beat up by Spiderman knockoffs?
Nothing Invincible adds to your character increases his ability to fly, the single character speed cap still applies here.
His durability increases the speed Karate Kid can obtain.
If you even manage to survive the explosion of the DS then Meemoo will be badly damaged and in no shape for a fight.
Untrue, I will be teleported to an EASILY survivable distance and still can ignore said pain with TP.
The explosion would also be likely to damage/destroy your flight ring which would leave you stranded in space
But I still have my telepathy to take you out and end the match BA-BY (and that’s a huge likely too, hell I”m fairly certain that I can find dark spots in space (isn’t space ALL darkness ) to teleport into worst comes to worst.
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If you attempt to strike BF then you would also destroy your flight ring.
That’s only if Val idiotically decides to hit you with a closed fist. Open hand slaps, knife thrusts, palm thrusts, punching with the OPPOSITE HAND, kicks, debris slappery, kneestrikes and head butts are all still viable moves that I’m fairly sure I can EASILY oneshot Bigfoot with.
There is no evidence of Invincible possessing significant superhuman reaction/movement speed in any area other than flight (which he doesn't even have for this tourney)
I JUST POSTED HIM RUNNING INTO HIS HOUSE, UNPACKING HIS COMICS AND RUNNING BACK TO A COMIC BOOK SIGNING. Oh and FLIGHT ring = flight.
Call me Mr. Stacks from now on Scoobless, anything else in unacceptable after that weak tactic.
Karate Kid is a precision instrument, the fact that he's been shoved into a body he's unfamiliar with will throw off his abilities as his reach/height/balance/etc/etc/etc will all be different than what he is used to
Karate Kid has had a fight with an enhanced Dragon Man and 2 hyperspeed prep training sessions to work out the kinks, let’s not forget that he makes his living showing fighters LIKE INVINCIBLE how to control their blows (oh and the fact that he and Invincible have similar physiques). This new body won’t do anything but give him a game-breaking power boost.
As for BF's TP defense, it's about reasonable doubt, all the factors I mentioned have hampered TP at one time or other, having all of them together can only work to my advantage
No they haven’t, all you’ve done is misquote scans and out of context events, hell one of the factors you mentioned DOESN’T EVEN APPLY TO THE CHARACTER YOU ARE USING.
There is no doubt that BF is vastly stronger than MM, he also has vastly superior durability and flight speed.
Flight speed is irrelevant as we all know Sasquatch and Moonstone do not react nearly as fast IN BATTLE as Karate Kid and Invincible have, being stronger is irrelevant when Meemoo has the precision to hit harder then you can even dream.
You have little or no long range powers and can't strike me when up close due to phasing.
My telepathy is far more powerful, dangerous, potent and deadly then any long range attack you posses and you STILL have to unphase a part of your body (which my TELEPATHY allows me to predict to happen and react to before you can counter) to create offense.
IN Conclusion:
Scoobless has once again played nothing but defense, I still hit harder then him, my telepathy still owns him, I’m still able to survive the explosion, I’m still unhittable, Apollo still sucks, yada yada yada. His only hope, enhanced durability, enhanced speed/reaction, teleporting and telepathic plot-device Val Armorr has been taken down by some pathetic explosion with which there is no evidence to the amount of power incased in the explosion nor distance. Ladies and Gentleman we all know Val Armorr by himself could pull a method out of his ass to survive that explosion, Val + Steroids + Telepathy + TELEPORTATION? He’ll survive this blast and pull off a stylish move in the process..
My telepathy still owns him
I still hit harder then he can fathom
I’m still far faster
He still can’t touch me with my TP, speed, teleportation + skill
I’ve still countered his only possible way of victory.
Calculators are, in fact, retarded.
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Originally posted by Joey Stacks
The match started on a Tuesday.
The match started on Monday night around 4-5 hours after it was supposed to start which was all explained well in advance of the first post.
Everything you posted after Leo made a couple of posts should actually be deleted as the same happened in other matches when people posted after the time limit had expired.
