Originally posted by llagrok
I was reading about Iron Man while typing, I wasn't referring to an event from New Avengers.
OK so you think Namor beats wolverine/ KO him in a single hit because IF can even though IF has never done it. Not to mention the fact Namor has had problems KO wolverine in every single encounter.........your arguement is kinda funny.
Originally posted by Battlehammer
OK so you think Namor beats wolverine/ KO him in a single hit because IF can even though IF has never done it. Not to mention the fact Namor has had problems KO wolverine in every single encounter.........your arguement is kinda funny.
I was referring to the skrull Iron Fist copy who had Wolverine bleeding, staggering and almost unconscious after one hit.
in the civil war fight, logan put between six and nine claws into namor's torso [the first page of the issue doesn't clearly show logan's knuckles, so it's difficult to tell whether or not his claws are out. blood is running down the backs of his hands, though.] he punched namor, kicked namor, and put all of his claws through his chest and upper back. namor punched him and kneed him. then, after logan would've had more than sufficient time to heal [if he can heal from a skeleton in a few minutes, he can heal from a mild-mannered beating in no time flat,] and with namor's pectorals significantly damaged, he took logan out in one hit.
that just sounds like he lost, to me. i mean, if injured he can knock logan out in one punch, he obviously wasn't going full steam while uninjured with his short barrage of hits earlier.
anyway, like i said, in their history the winner is the one who isn't a starring character in the title. invaders was relatively namor-heavy, especially compared to its wolverine appearances, and wolverine is logan's title book. so my hopes aren't up. i doubt that, in a non-partisan title with a non-partisan writer, logan would win because of oily claws; if at all.
Originally posted by Disappear
in the civil war fight, logan put between six and nine claws into namor's torso [the first page of the issue doesn't clearly show logan's knuckles, so it's difficult to tell whether or not his claws are out. blood is running down the backs of his hands, though.] he punched namor, kicked namor, and put all of his claws through his chest and upper back. namor punched him and kneed him. then, after logan would've had more than sufficient time to heal [if he can heal from a skeleton in a few minutes, he can heal from a mild-mannered beating in no time flat,] and with namor's pectorals significantly damaged, he took logan out in one hit.
Originally posted by Disappear
that just sounds like he lost, to me. i mean, if injured he can knock logan out in one punch, he obviously wasn't going full steam while uninjured with his short barrage of hits earlier.
Obviously my ass, he hit Logan from behind when Logan was in a HORRIBLE state to begin with, he got cheap shotted after having to regen 99% of his body mass simple as that. If Namor's Royal Guard hadn't been there to distract from Logan's attack, if Logan had followed up with that drop, Namor would be dead.
I hate how people try to convince themselves that he did it with "one punch" because it totally scews the perspective of the CONTEXT in which it happened. Read the issue before that, the Atlantean girl even comments how Logan doesn't look like he's in great shape while fighting Janus, and he admits that he isn't.
Originally posted by Disappearevery encounter the two have had says different.
anyway, like i said, in their history the winner is the one who isn't a starring character in the title. invaders was relatively namor-heavy, especially compared to its wolverine appearances, and wolverine is logan's title book. so my hopes aren't up. i doubt that, in a non-partisan title with a non-partisan writer, logan would win because of oily claws; if at all.
Wolverine has beaten Namor before...Wolverine is way more skilled and he is faster too. Namor doesn't hit as hard as Hulk and isnt as big as the Hulk either. All Wolverine really has to do is fight smart and counter attack. A hit to the head, throat or heart will take Namor out and Wolverine is one of the most accomplished fighters on Earth. Either that or too many body shots from Wolverine and Namor will bleed to death. But if the fights under water like it shows on the cover than Wolverine loses all his advantages and will probably drown.
nothing's ever going to count as a legitimate win to you until someone says "logan, i'm going to punch you, get ready" just after logan had his breakfast and a good night's sleep, is it? i guess logan's throat being sawed open really changed the tensile strength of the tendons in his hand, meaning the move the sentry used to virtually paralyze logan with pain was a cheap shot, too.
the fact that logan is capable of healing from a skeleton is a good implication that he doesn't rely strictly on caloric factors for his energy; meaning he shouldn't be any worse for wear after regenerating an entire body from nothing than he would be with a spear through the gut. THAT'S how his healing factor works, according to the comics. whether he's sleepy or cranky when he comes back doesn't really make a huge difference for someone with virtually limitless endurance.
Originally posted by llagrok
I was referring to the skrull Iron Fist copy who had Wolverine bleeding, staggering and almost unconscious after one hit.
Originally posted by llagrok
Yeah, Wolverine attacked Sentry first but it was definitely a cheap shot!Everyone automatically assumes that Namor was at full power when fighting Wolverine? lal
as for sentry.....did you read the issue? Sentry hit wolverine from behind and Logan got back up and attacked sentry.
Originally posted by jinzin
And you totally don't have any grasp on how Logan's healing factor works if you think the fact that he healed the physical damage caused by Nitro's blast, Janus' attack, and Namors' follow up attacks means that he was operating at a suffecient forum worthy 100% level. 😐
Nonetheless you will still claim that his HF will keep him in optimal physical condition in a fight no matter how long it lasts or what his opponent is capable of.
Originally posted by roughrider
Namor's enemy, Tiger Shark, nearly killed Logan by dragging him underwater and embedding his claws in a boulder. Logan would have drowned if Tiger Shark hadn't swum away.What's to stop Namor from doing the same thing?
Oh, right...Marvel editorial. 😉