Originally posted by jinzin😆
you know it never ceases to amaze me how little respect Wolverine gets around here..Namor beat him in Civil War? pshaaa! Yeah by cheating his ass off, Wolverine had him dead to rights in that fight, just like he did in the fight they had later in that comic, just like he did in New Invaders and just like he did in Global Jeopardy.. the only time Namor's faired decently against Wolverine is when he was being whacked out mind controlled and they stalemated eachother, AND EVEN THEN Namor admitted that if Logan wasn't being mind controlled he probably would have lost. 😬
But the Wolverine can't win legit here?
bleh, my thoughts are basically, there will be no fight.
If there is, it will probably go in Namor's favor, because it's his own mini series, and it's a MINI series, he doesn't have a lot of comics to make him look good, only six, so he's gotta get with the atlantean ass kickings and fast too.
I don't really mind though, personally I think it's about damned time Namor DOES what DarkCrawler used to like to tell me he could do all the time and actually straight beat Wolverine for once. Then at least you Wolverine hate-mongering nuisances can have some validity in thinking Namor can beat him in a fight.
How the hell can a guy who knocks around Iron Man and Hulk lose to Logan. The brain of some people never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people can be.
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
😆How the hell can a guy who knocks around Iron Man and Hulk lose to Logan. The brain of some people never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people can be.
Because he lacks any sort of ranged option, the durability to turn Wolverine's claws, or a healing factor fast enough to compensate for the damage Wolverine doles out? He has to engage Wolverine in melee combat, he has no other options; and in melee combat he is outclassed. Wolverine is more dangerous to Namor then Namor is to him. He can potentially end the fight in one hit. A severed limb, decapitation, piercing of a major artery, opening a major blood vessel will end the fight in seconds... and thats only things that are immediately fatal. Namor needs to be on the defensive to avoid getting killed, and he also needs to try to mount some sort of offense. Wolverine has the skill, speed and reach advantage... to think that Namor is going to engage Wolverine in melee and not only win, but win the majority is ridiculous.
... and Hulk has smacked around Namor every time they have fought. He has even smacked around Namor and the Avengers in one go. The only time Namor holds his own is when they fight under water.
The real Captain Jack Harkness would already know all of this. 🙂
Originally posted by srankmissingninThat was when Hulk was stronger, and mindless.
... and Hulk has smacked around Namor everytime they have fought. He has even smacked around Namor and the Avengers in one go. The only time Namor holds his own is when they fight under water.
Otherwise, Namor has KO'ed Hulk three times, and Hulk hasn't beaten him once...
Originally posted by Tyrant
That was when Hulk was stronger, and mindless.Otherwise, Namor has KO'ed Hulk three times, and Hulk hasn't beaten him once...
Haven't read the 1998 (or maybe 99?) Hulk/Namor annual I guess eh? Hulk kicks Namors ass... underwater no less. Every fight Hulk and Namor have had has started with Hulk laying an incredibly one sided beat down on Namor... and three times Namor has managed to drag the fight into the water and incapacitate the Hulk. He has never been a match for the Hulk.
And I'm pretty sure Hulk was weakened from his seperation from Banner when he was kicking the crap out of Namor and the Avengers at the same time... but I'd need to check to be sure.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Haven't read the 1998 (or maybe 99?) Hulk/Namor annual I guess eh? Hulk kicks Namors ass... underwater no less. Every fight Hulk and Namor have had has started with Hulk laying an incredibly one sided beat down on Namor... and three times Namor has managed to drag the fight into the water and incapacitate the Hulk. He has never been a match for the Hulk.
So according to you, it's only fair to consider the fights where Namor is in an environment where his strength and durability is slowly diminishing?
Careful friend, your bias is showing 🙂
Originally posted by llagrok
So according to you, it's only fair to consider the fights where Namor is in an environment where his strength and durability is slowly diminishing?Careful friend, your bias is showing 🙂
Hulk can hold his breath for longer then most but he can't breathe under water. Namor can breath on land and in the sea. The one time Hulk could breathe underwater... he beat up Namor. Coincidence?
And How long to you think it takes for Namor to become dehydrated? Its not like his fights with the Hulk last more then a few minutes. You are under estimating Namor if you think he doesn't have the endurance to fight for a few minutes on land. His advantage underwater comes from a speed and maneuverability boost... and speed and maneuverability debuff on those he is fighting.
Originally posted by srankmissingninThat was Gravage.
Haven't read the 1998 (or maybe 99?) Hulk/Namor annual I guess eh? Hulk kicks Namors ass... underwater no less. Every fight Hulk and Namor have had has started with Hulk laying an incredibly one sided beat down on Namor... and three times Namor has managed to drag the fight into the water and incapacitate the Hulk. He has never been a match for the Hulk.And I'm pretty sure Hulk was weakened from his seperation from Banner when he was kicking the crap out of Namor and the Avengers at the same time... but I'd need to check to be sure.
He has been a match for Hulk on land though. That's why the majority of their fights are stalemates.
Hulk isn't taking on Thor, Herc, Namor, Iron Man, Wonder Man, etc, while in a weakened state, I'm afraid...
Originally posted by Tyrant
That was Gravage.
Plus, he never really kicked his ass, unless you count blow for blow, and then him charging Namor into a ship as "ass kicking".
Or wait, am I thinking of another time?
I might be...He has been a match for Hulk on land though. That's why the majority of their fights are stalemates.
Hulk isn't taking on Thor, Herc, Namor, Iron Man, Wonder Man, etc, while in a weakened state, I'm afraid...
The only time Namor proved to be anything even resembling a "match" for Hulk on land was when Hulk was possesed... and even then Banner was fighting for control and I think Strange was involved. Most everything else has been a pretty one sided ass kicking. The majority of their fights are stalemates because the majority of all hero fights start from a misconception and end before a winner can be decided.
Originally posted by srankmissingninThe only times Namor hasn't been a match on land, was when Hulk was in Mindless state, and in the Order 4 (and anytime when Surfer's involved, since Surfer gets downplayed in fights with others against Hulk), I'm afraid.
The only time Namor proved to be anything even resembling a "match" for Hulk on land was when Hulk was possesed... and even then Banner was fighting for control and I think Strange was involved, most everything else has been a pretty one sided ass kicking.
Other than those, I haven't really saw Namor not hold his own.
Originally posted by Tyrant
The only times Namor hasn't been a match on land, was when Hulk was in Mindless state, and in the Order 4 (and anytime when Surfer's involved, since Surfer gets downplayed in fights with others against Hulk), I'm afraid.Other than those, I haven't really saw Namor not hold his own.
And in Avengers 3, and in Tales to Astonish 100. 😕
In all the really fights they've had, Hulk has dominated on land.
Originally posted by srankmissingninThe first two fights?
And in Avengers 3, and in Tales to Astonish 100. 😕In all the really fights they've had, Hulk has dominated on land.
The only thing Hulk really did in Tales to Astonish was throw Namor when they were on land...
That's not dominating.
From DC's newest herochat Namor Respect Thread:
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Track Record against Hulk
Wins: 2
Losses: 0
Stalemates: 15
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The thread's here: http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144124.0.html
judge for yourselves
Originally posted by Jack Harkness
😆How the hell can a guy who knocks around Iron Man and Hulk lose to Logan. The brain of some people never ceases to amaze me how stupid some people can be.
Like yours for instance?
You ARE aware that Wolverine Tangos with Hulk on a semi regular basis right?
If It wasn't for IM's range Wolvie may very well beat him as well... He's had him dead to rights in Civil War, Black Panther, AND The Infinity War....
So while you sit there and laugh, your comparisons are HORRIBLE.
Originally posted by Disappear
From DC's newest herochat Namor Respect Thread:
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Track Record against HulkWins: 2
Losses: 0
Stalemates: 15
------------------------------------------The thread's here: http://herochat.com/forum/index.php/topic,144124.0.html
judge for yourselves
Judgement: Namor's a badass.