Originally posted by Emperor AshtarWell I think that's only a gameplay mechanic as the Fleece is always on his arm and should be able to be used indefinately.
Link could easily aim an arrow at the the ground to illuminate the area and Blind Kratos for a follow up attack. Also, link can set up an arrow fairly quickly. Regardless of Golden fleece's relfecting ability, Kratos will not relfect every arrow shot at him[QUOTE] There's not really any proof Light Arrows blind anything. If there is show me.[QUOTE=9227990]Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
[B]Lightining bolts are not pure light or even comparable to light itself. Light arrows contain light and can be used specifically for stunning an opponent.[Quote] Read above.[QUOTE=9227990]Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
[B]When has Typhons Bane been used at extremely Long Ranges like Links bow?[QUOTE] The longest range I used it at was like 200+ feet and you act like Kratos will stand there letting Link snipe him with arrows. If Link is farther away it will be harder for him to hit him.[QUOTE=9227990]Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
[B]Yes, but Link could reflect indefinetly, unless Kratos can do the same with Golden fleece he's screwed.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
There's not really any proof Light Arrows blind anything. If there is show me.
You want me to prove that an arrow containing pure concentrated light can stun an individual?
I think common sense should tell you that it could.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The longest range I used it at was like 200+ feet and you act like Kratos will stand there letting Link snipe him with arrows. If Link is farther away it will be harder for him to hit him.
Your underestimating link here, he can hit targets on horse back at a range of over 100 yards. He's demonstrated better accuracy peroid.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Yes, but Link could reflect indefinetly, unless Kratos can do the same with Golden fleece he's screwed.
But, he cannot do the same indefinetly.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarThe Light Arrows were not made to stun people, rather they pierce through an destroy them, and never have stunned anything, so yes I am led to believe they wouldn't. I'm not underestimating Link, but if Link is that far away from Kratos who would be moving and trying to dodge them, and Kratos isn't just some beast flunky with the brain of a rat, he's a veteran warrior who has been in countless battles and has fought with Gods. He won't be as easy to hit. And realistically Kratos should be able to use the Fleece indefinately as it's always equipped, it's only a gameplay mechanic that he has to press R1 when the blow hits.
You want me to prove that an arrow containing pure concentrated light can stun an individual?I think common sense should tell you that it could.
Your underestimating link here, he can hit targets on horse back at a range of over 100 yards. He's demonstrated better accuracy peroid.
But, he cannot do the same indefinetly.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
The Light Arrows were not made to stun people, rather they pierce through an destroy them, and never have stunned anything, so yes I am led to believe they wouldn't.
Light Arrows contain pure concentrated light, and last I check immense light triggers a reflex that causes an individual to cover their eye's no matter what they are doing. Unless, there is some property that contradicts the nature of light in Zelda😮OT. I assume it works how light always works, and wether it stuns in-game is irrelevant. Can fire arrows light the terrain ablaze in game? The answer is no because of a game restriction.
Also, Light arrows can stun enemies in OOT.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
I'm not underestimating Link, but if Link is that far away from Kratos who would be moving and trying to dodge them, and Kratos isn't just some beast flunky with the brain of a rat, he's a veteran warrior who has been in countless battles and has fought with Gods. He won't be as easy to hit. And realistically Kratos should be able to use the Fleece indefinately as it's always equipped, it's only a gameplay mechanic that he has to press R1 when the blow hits.
I'm aware that he's a veteran warrior, but that doesn't mean he's superior top link in archery. Link has demonstrated superior archery skills, and can handle Kratos at long range.
Also, I doubt Golden Fleece can repel light otherwise kratos would be blind when he uses it.
Also, Golden Fleece can be broken with sufficient attack power.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarWell I see your point so I'll concede the Light Arrow argument. I never said he was a superior archer, but Kratos has other things than Typhon's Bane to use at long range. Let ma ask you this, can Link dodge lightning? I doubt it, and it just so happens thet Kratos can throw lightning bolts. If the Golden Fleece can repel the gaze of a gorgon, which in GoW is just concentrated beams of green or red light from their eyes, he can repel light. And do you have ANY proof Golden Fleece can be broken? If it can survive a mass lightning assault by Zeus, I don't see Link breaking it.
Light Arrows contain pure concentrated light, and last I check immense light triggers a reflex that causes an individual to cover their eye's no matter what they are doing. Unless, there is some property that contradicts the nature of light in Zelda😮OT. I assume it works how light always works, and wether it stuns in-game is irrelevant. Can fire arrows light the terrain ablaze in game? The answer is no because of a game restriction.Also, Light arrows can stun enemies in OOT.
I'm aware that he's a veteran warrior, but that doesn't mean he's superior top link in archery. Link has demonstrated superior archery skills, and can handle Kratos at long range.
Also, I doubt Golden Fleece can repel light otherwise kratos would be blind when he uses it.
Also, Golden Fleece can be broken with sufficient attack power.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarGolden Fleece is always on and I thought of an instance that proves it is, at the end of the game Zeus becomes a giant and shoots powerful continuous streams of lightning at Kratos, Kratos used the Golden Fleece to block the lightning but since he was under constant assault he wasn't deflecting it back. I would post a vid but I can't watch vids on this computer or else it'll get all slow so you'll have to wait.
Honestly, if Kratos's "Golden Fleece" is always on to reflect any attack forever than he wins. But, if he has to conjur it by force of will then link takes a slight majority.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Let ma ask you this, can Link dodge lightning? I doubt it, and it just so happens thet Kratos can throw lightning bolts.
He doesn't have to dodge it my friend, Mirror Sheild can simply repel it easily. Or he can use Nayru's love to sheild himself.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
If the Golden Fleece can repel the gaze of a gorgon, which in GoW is just concentrated beams of green or red light from their eyes, he can repel light.
That doesn't sound like light to me, because if gorgons beam was light when Kratos uses Golden Fleece to repel it he would go blind. We need light in order to see, and by blocking light all around his body he cannot see.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Golden Fleece is always on and I thought of an instance that proves it is, at the end of the game Zeus becomes a giant and shoots powerful continuous streams of lightning at Kratos, Kratos used the Golden Fleece to block the lightning but since he was under constant assault he wasn't deflecting it back. I would post a vid but I can't watch vids on this computer or else it'll get all slow so you'll have to wait.
I see, so it can only reflect attacks one at a time. If it's always on, that means he can never ever die. That's a bit hard to swallow.
Originally posted by Emperor AshtarMirror Shield reflects beams, a lightning bolt is not a beam, so that argument is null. As for Nayru's love it doesn't last forever and if it is long range then Link would be limited to normal arrows would be much easier to block than a light arrow. The Golden Fleece is only on his arm, it's not some armor that wraps his whole body, otherwise that argument would be true, and Fleece is always on and can always be used to block and absorb damage, but he needs to want to deflect it. I probably should have made that clear.He can always block, but reflects one at a time. Well, I gotta go for now, but I'll be back later.
He doesn't have to dodge it my friend, Mirror Sheild can simply repel it easily. Or he can use Nayru's love to sheild himself.That doesn't sound like light to me, because if gorgons beam was light when Kratos uses Golden Fleece to repel it he would go blind. We need light in order to see, and by blocking light all around his body he cannot see.
I see, so it can only reflect attacks one at a time. If it's always on, that means he can never ever die. That's a bit hard to swallow.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Mirror Shield reflects beams, a lightning bolt is not a beam, so that argument is null.
I never said he was going to reflect it, my friend. I said he could repel it, since Mirror Shield does more than just reflect stuff. It's a powerful shield that is highly resistant.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
As for Nayru's love it doesn't last forever and if it is long range then Link would be limited to normal arrows would be much easier to block than a light arrow.
I know it doesn't last forever, but it last as long as he has magical energy and I said he would use his light arrows to blind Kratos then follow up with a normally arrow.
Originally posted by Violent2DopeThe Golden Fleece is only on his arm, it's not some armor that wraps his whole body, otherwise that argument would be true, and Fleece is always on and can always be used to block and absorb damage, but he needs to want to deflect it. I probably should have made that clear.He can always block, but reflects one at a time. Well, I gotta go for now, but I'll be back later.
Oh, ok, but if it's always on does that mean he never can take damage?