Re: Re: K.O.S.M.O.S VS Jedah Dohma
Originally posted by Triple Six
Jedah doesn't even need the fact that he almost gave existence a do over.
*Cough*
Originally posted by Triple Six
He can take her soul.
She does not have a soul. And even if Jedah was able to take Mary Magdalene's soul(big IF) KOS-MOS will still be fully functionable.
Originally posted by Triple Six
He can banish her to the Majigen
She might be able to get out. Although I will research for that info.
Originally posted by Triple Six
He can send her to that other place where the demons jump you and kill you.
See above. Also who says these demons will be able to do anything to KOS-MOS?
Originally posted by Triple Six
And a little known fact, Jedah can not die until his mission is complete, he will continue to revive himself until he wipes out existence or should I say, fuse all individual things into one. So even though Anita and Donavon killed him, he'll be back, just like when Ozomu killed him. Or should I say, tricked him into killing himself.
That's cool.
Wow, ummmmmm....after all the member bashing and arguing over what "world" means in DS and arguing whether Xemnas is on par with Jedah(he's not even close) I have this to say, it's not really a stretch to say that Jedah can erase existence(I believe when he says "world", it's more than just one planet so yes I think he was recreating existence). Also, Jedah's powers go beyond earthly limits, Demitri who defeated Pyron and absorbed Pyron's power was still killed by Jedah. So the Xemnas being on par with Jedah thing is bullshit as he has yet to show power of that magnitude.
Originally posted by Violent2Dope
Wow, ummmmmm....after all the member bashing and arguing over what "world" means in DS and arguing whether Xemnas is on par with Jedah(he's not even close) I have this to say, it's not really a stretch to say that Jedah can erase existence(I believe when he says "world", it's more than just one planet so yes I think he was recreating existence). Also, Jedah's powers go beyond earthly limits, Demitri who defeated Pyron and absorbed Pyron's power was still killed by Jedah. So the Xemnas being on par with Jedah thing is bullshit as he has yet to show power of that magnitude.
Do note Xemmas is not in this matchup. Xeno already stopped arguing about him, but if you 2 keep at it I will be forced to take the kids glooves off...
dur
Originally posted by Violent2DopeAnd you know what, all that is explained on the last page makes this just as questionable as Remulous's statements. I'm not bothering to post once again what already disputes this.
Wow, ummmmmm....after all the member bashing and arguing over what "world" means in DS and arguing whether Xemnas is on par with Jedah(he's not even close) I have this to say, it's not really a stretch to say that Jedah can erase existence(I believe when he says "world", it's more than just one planet so yes I think he was recreating existence). Also, Jedah's powers go beyond earthly limits, Demitri who defeated Pyron and absorbed Pyron's power was still killed by Jedah. So the Xemnas being on par with Jedah thing is bullshit as he has yet to show power of that magnitude.
It's not even about Xenmas really. Rather, it's the way people debate and the crap games versus has become.
Every thread it's the same formula:
-Ryu get's mentioned for no reason
-Minimalization of certain feats
-Over exaggeration of others
There aren't enough good debators or threads to keep this place alive. Superboy Prime tried, but this place is too far gone.
I'm jumpin' ship as well, one.
Xemnas is in this debate to point out how much hype Jedah's getting. Because Jedah apparently has enough power to destroy a dimension which has unspecified space and boundaries, he is leagues above someone who can destroy and create realms of undermined space and width. If he can destroy the human "world" meaning the actual universe people live in, that isn't different than Xemnas having enough power to destroy the realm of light which is Kingdom Heart's equivalent to the human universe, yet Jedah is light years above Xemnas in power.
As for the topic at hand, how do we know what Jedah can destroy is greater than what KOS-MOS at full power has shown to be able to destroy? You see galaxies full of stars and planets being wiped from existence within two seconds as a result of one of her attacks, and that isn't even the most she can do with Zohar's energy source. What exactly have we seen Jedah destroy?
Originally posted by Who else?
The term "world" is meant loosely in DS as in a place of life and existence, but does not necessarily mean a planet but as in an existence, because in his ending when he says "world" he refers to Makai and Makai is not a planet but a dimension.Similar to how people say I'm going to the next world, as in dying.
We know heaven and hell aren't planets. That is how DS is using the term world.
Well said, also Jedah wanted to recreate all of exsistence.
Yo check this out people, my analysis here is gonna show why this thread shouldn't have been 3 pages long...
Things are gonna get a bit crazy and I'm gonna be refuting alot of theorys but pay attention, yo.
In order for KOSMOS to beat Pyron, she had to be in her strongest form, correct?
Demetri beat Pyron at 80% of power, Demetri vowed to return to Makai once he was at full power, after beating Pyron he finally returns to Makai. Now this is where things get crazy. I don't think it was a tough battle between Demetri and Pyron. I think Demetri straight up kicked Pyrons ass with ease, seeing as how he only got to 100% after absorbing Pyron, which means Pyron is only worth 20% of Demetri's real power. So this should stop anyone from making a Demetri VS KOSMOS thread.
Now Morrigan has been able to keep up with an 80% Demetri while bein at 1/3 power. Just to be fair, Morrigan at 2/3s ties with Demetri at 100% (even though I think she's slightly stronger then Demetri at 2/3s). At 3/3, full power she kills Demetri, surely. And is comparable to Belial himself, which is why he chose her above all other DS. Morrigan was an S class when she was just a baby, yo. She's had a couple thousand years to develop, with out her true power. This should silence the KOSMOS VS Morrigan thread.
And finally...Jedah, we know he's better then Demetri and we know he's immortal.
KOSMOS is cute and powerful and she makes me wanna buy Xenosaga 1, 2, and 3 (I probably will and the games are cheap now too)
but Jedah flat out fux her up, yo.
Why this thread is was 3 pages is beyond me.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
Yo check this out people, my analysis here is gonna show why this thread shouldn't have been 3 pages long...Things are gonna get a bit crazy and I'm gonna be refuting alot of theorys but pay attention, yo.
In order for KOSMOS to beat Pyron, she had to be in her strongest form, correct?
Incorrect.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
Demetri beat Pyron at 80% of power, Demetri vowed to return to Makai once he was at full power, after beating Pyron he finally returns to Makai. Now this is where things get crazy. I don't think it was a tough battle between Demetri and Pyron. I think Demetri straight up kicked Pyrons ass with ease, seeing as how he only got to 100% after absorbing Pyron, which means Pyron is only worth 20% of Demetri's real power. So this should stop anyone from making a Demetri VS KOSMOS thread.
Actual proof of this percent of power would be appreciated. KOS-MOS has no trouble taking on Pyron. She would just use the X-buster and end the match without any trouble. Quite in fact many people concluced KOS-MOS takes 10/10 from Pyron. Why? Because both of them fighting at their best equals KOS-MOS win. Pyron fighting at his canon level equals KOS-MOS whooping his ass even easier.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
Now Morrigan has been able to keep up with an 80% Demetri while bein at 1/3 power. Just to be fair, Morrigan at 2/3s ties with Demetri at 100% (even though I think she's slightly stronger then Demetri at 2/3s). At 3/3, full power she kills Demetri, surely. And is comparable to Belial himself, which is why he chose her above all other DS. Morrigan was an S class when she was just a baby, yo. She's had a couple thousand years to develop, with out her true power. This should silence the KOSMOS VS Morrigan thread.
Actually someone pointed out Morrigan whooped Demitri's ass at 1/3 her power.
Sad thing is there is no actual proof of what Morrigan can really do. Just speculation.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
And finally...Jedah, we know he's better then Demetri and we know he's immortal.
Immortal does not equal victory.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
KOSMOS is cute and powerful and she makes me wanna buy Xenosaga 1, 2, and 3 (I probably will and the games are cheap now too)
Kick ass. Great games I tell you.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
but Jedah flat out fux her up, yo.
Debatable.
Originally posted by Usual Suspect
Why this thread is was 3 pages is beyond me.
I don't see what's so bad. If anything Jedah supporters should use this chance to prove feats and debate about Jedah since there are few characters who can actually match him. Don't miss this opportunity just because speculation makes you guys think it's not even a match.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeHe's right Prime, Demetri was at only 80% and didn't even need that much t o beat Pyron.
Incorrect.Actual proof of this percent of power would be appreciated. KOS-MOS has no trouble taking on Pyron.
If you read Demetri's profile at Astralvision.com it will tell you that Demetri was only at 80% power, if he were at full power he would've been in Makai already.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeNot really, it is a fact that at full power she towers above all other DS, that is why Belial picked her. She is very comparable to Belial. No offence but she pwns the shit outta KOSMOS at full power.
Sad thing is there is no actual proof of what Morrigan can really do. Just speculation.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeIt helps alot, even at full power, I really don't think KOSMOS will force Jedah to revive him self.
Immortal does not equal victory.
She destroys galaxies < Jedah destroy dimensions
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeNo it isn't dude. Jedah can take hits from dimension busters, destroying galaxies is alot but it just doesn't compare.
Debatable.
Originally posted by Superboy PrimeTrue, there is a bit of speculation, but not for the sake of the DS beating KOSMOS, its more of speculation of how the DS match up to each other. Speculation aside, KOSMOS can't beat Morrigan, Demetri or Jedah.
I don't see what's so bad. If anything Jedah supporters should use this chance to prove feats and debate about Jedah since there are few characters who can actually match him. Don't miss this opportunity just because speculation makes you guys think it's not even a match.
I don't mean to sound like an ass but Jedah and Morrigan beating KOSMOS is kinda obvious. Especially for Jedah, while Jedah can't wipe out all of existence at once, he can do it rather quickly.
After reading the profiles on Astralvision, I'm starting to think Morrigan is greater the Jedah though.
Belial killed Jedah with that arrow thing the first time around, he couldn't do that to Morrigan and Morrigan was a class S as a baby. She is like a female Belial.
I'll be discussing more of this to the Jedah VS Morrigan thread.