This fight goes to wolverine even worse then it did with wolverine having adamantium. Lets not forget that a adamantium wolverine has already proven of having the ability of keeping up with spiderman but we have a much faster wolverine, that healing factor has been increased a 100 folds, along with his senses.
I give wolverine a high edge in this fight 8/10.
With no walls or buildings spiderman loses everytime. He needs either a city enviroment or another envrioment with lots of large objects to utilize. With that he can utilize his greater agility and webbing to an actual effect to win about half the time. In this open neutral ground he loses everytime
Originally posted by jinzin
Uh-huh. that would be why that fight was his first appearance, why the two have met some 20 odd times on the battlefield and Wolverine's ALWAYS given him problems, and why Marvel holds the rivalry in such high regard they actually made a feature film to support it.Marvel... pfffttt.. what a bunch of fanboys.
Clearly. He's waaay more threatening than a guy like Wendigo. 🙄
Is that why he was forced to flee from their first fight, and had to resort to a high ledge for their second? Interesting.
Cause it's not like a lighter faster Wolverine, with a healing factor on overdrive could possibly keep up with Spiderman, not like a hundred humans without hyper senses, and a healing factor have been able to deal with Spidey in hand to hand..... I mean it's not even as if any street level has ever touched the guy......
Yeah, soooooo.. I was just curious if you ever felt like having a legitimate debate based on facts instead of just pulling shit out of your ass and trying to pass it off as legit.
Cause if not I'll happily ignore any further nonsense you have to say from this point on.
Oh please! I'm not saying Wolverine kills Hulk, but the fight is a no contest. Wolverine annoys the Hulk and hurts him a few times with his claws, which just pisses him off more. They face off so much, because Logan is such a popular character. When I see this fight I look at it from two or three differen't ways. How well Logan can do in the beginning (meaning how bad he gets his ass beat). Than the other way I look at it is the Hulk should not be fighting Wolverine. It is such a downgrade for him unless it is Wolverine and a group of other superheroes. Sometimes it is annoying when they bring the Hulk in against street level guys, or even mid tier people. Cause the Hulk will obviously win, but they just try to give the character a good showing against the Hulk.
One Spidey is faster and more agile than Wolvie. He knows what Wolvie can do, he will not put himself in a position/give Wolvie the chance to kill him. It will not be easy. In fact it will be really difficult. But as long as he has his webs, slightly superior speed, and vastly superior agility, with his Spidey sense he should take this fight.
Originally posted by jinzin
Then he'd have to fight TWO WOLVERINES! ZOMG!
Doesn't make sense.
I'm just thinking back to Ultimate Wolverine vs. Ultimate Hulk or Colossus.
Originally posted by carver9No.
This fight goes to wolverine even worse then it did with wolverine having adamantium. Lets not forget that a adamantium wolverine has already proven of having the ability of keeping up with spiderman but we have a much faster wolverine, that healing factor has been increased a 100 folds, along with his senses.I give wolverine a high edge in this fight 8/10.
Boneclaw Wolverine is not faster than adamantium Wolverine. That might've been the case in a real life but not in comics. In comics adamantium would slow Wolverine down about as much as iron suit slowed down Spider-man. Wolverine performed his best and craziest speed feats while his bones were bonded to adamantium. While boneclaw Wolvie never displayed that kind of speed. The fact that in this fight he doesn't have adamantium skeleton only gives Spider-man more options to beat him.
Originally posted by Wade Wilson
Boneclaw Wolverine is not faster than adamantium Wolverine. That might've been the case in a real life but not in comics. In comics adamantium would slow Wolverine down about as much as iron suit slowed down Spider-man. Wolverine performed his best and craziest speed feats while his bones were bonded to adamantium. While boneclaw Wolvie never displayed that kind of speed. The fact that in this fight he doesn't have adamantium skeleton only gives Spider-man more options to beat him.
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Originally posted by Silent GuardianLike he was in his first appearance?
Oh please! I'm not saying Wolverine kills Hulk, but the fight is a no contest. Wolverine annoys the Hulk and hurts him a few times with his claws, which just pisses him off more. They face off so much, because Logan is such a popular character.
Originally posted by Silent GuardianIt's been a consistency since Wolverine's incarnation. The notion you're trying to sell is based on one of Logan who has never existed.
When I see this fight I look at it from two or three differen't ways. How well Logan can do in the beginning (meaning how bad he gets his ass beat). Than the other way I look at it is the Hulk should not be fighting Wolverine. It is such a downgrade for him unless it is Wolverine and a group of other superheroes.
Originally posted by Silent GuardianI'm sure the story have nothing to do with it. 😬
Sometimes it is annoying when they bring the Hulk in against street level guys, or even mid tier people. Cause the Hulk will obviously win, but they just try to give the character a good showing against the Hulk.
Originally posted by Silent GuardianIf he is, it's by a margin that's negligable.
One Spidey is faster
Originally posted by Silent GuardianA bit, agility isn't going to help him beat Logan... Avoid logan? Barely... maybe, but not beat him...
and more agile than Wolvie.
Originally posted by Silent GuardianWolverine knows what he can do... Thank you for stating the obvious...
He knows what Wolvie can do,
Originally posted by Silent GuardianIf he's in a KMC fight with Wolverine, it's already too late.
he will not put himself in a position/give Wolvie the chance to kill him.
Originally posted by Silent GuardianAll you're doing is listing Peter's slight advantages while ignoring Wolverine.... He should? Based on what besides your opinion? Because facts say somethin else.
It will not be easy. In fact it will be really difficult. But as long as he has his webs, slightly superior speed, and vastly superior agility, with his Spidey sense he should take this fight.
Originally posted by Wade WilsonActually Wolverine has several quite high showings of speed while Boneclaw...
Boneclaw Wolverine is not faster than adamantium Wolverine. That might've been the case in a real life but not in comics. In comics adamantium would slow Wolverine down about as much as iron suit slowed down Spider-man. Wolverine performed his best and craziest speed feats while his bones were bonded to adamantium. While boneclaw Wolvie never displayed that kind of speed. The fact that in this fight he doesn't have adamantium skeleton only gives Spider-man more options to beat him.
and uh... Wolverine's skeleton weighs 100 pounds, 300 according to Wolverine iirc...... Comparing that to the liquid metal ironspidey suit which was used by a guy with 20 ton strength is like comparing apples to cinderblocks... 😬
Originally posted by jinzinWolverine judging by his feats could lift up to one ton so he's no weakling either. But that's not the point. You really think that writers take adamantium's weight into concideration? That they'd make Logan slower when his bones are bonded to it again? We could take his fights with Deadpool as an example. Most of the time they are evenly matched in speed, but remember when Wade fought boneclaw Wolverine (when DP shoryukened Shadowcat) it didnt seem to me that it was harder for him to keep up, heck at the begining of the fight he was dodging Wolverine without much trouble, something he's never done in their other fights. My point is, writers don't give a crap about the weight, seeing how adamantium Wolverine has better speed feats, so our logic doesn't work here. But it does give Spider-man an advantage because now he could rip Logan's hand or leg off.
Actually Wolverine has several quite high showings of speed while Boneclaw...and uh... Wolverine's skeleton weighs 100 pounds, 300 according to Wolverine iirc...... Comparing that to the liquid metal ironspidey suit which was used by a guy with 20 ton strength is like comparing apples to cinderblocks... 😬