Spider-man vs Bone Claw Wolverine · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

viper88 Member

Now that I know that wolverine also has a degree of superhuman speed, hr will put up a better fight but still lode the majority.

spidey 6-7/10

Wolverine2006 X-man

I'd give it

Knockout: Spidey 6/10

Death: Wolverine 10/10

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by JasonK4
scans or issue please 🙂

This fight occurs in Incredible Hulk issue 454.
There is an additional fight in 455, there's practically nothing shown though, all we know is that Wolverine is "holding Hulk off" but is quickly punched by hulk through a floor or two of the x-mansion.. in the next panel he's seen getting up.

Hulk has fought bone claw Wolverine on 5 seperate occassions including his fight with skrullverine. He's one shotted him zero of those times.

JasonK4 Restricted

Originally posted by jinzin
This fight occurs in Incredible Hulk issue 454.
There is an additional fight in 455, there's practically nothing shown though, all we know is that Wolverine is "holding Hulk off" but is quickly punched by hulk through a floor or two of the x-mansion.. in the next panel he's seen getting up.
Hulk has fought bone claw Wolverine on 5 seperate occassions including his fight with skrullverine. He's one shotted him zero of those times.

Thanks man...I'm going to download those issues now...

and also, was it bone-claw wolverine that beat hulk by dropping a bridge on him? 😬

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by viper88
And in the scan where spiderman says that wolverine is faster, he then says no, nobody is faster and then proceeds to dodge his attack. However that can be interpreted in multiple ways.

True, and it's not exactly my belief that Spiderman ISN'T superior to Logan in speed, I do think he's faster to a degree, but you said you didn't know where that idea came from that Wolverine was faster, I just answered.

Originally posted by viper88
I still believe that spiderman is faster of the two.

He is, I have no doubts about that, but I don't think that it's to a degree that will make a difference in the fight.

Originally posted by viper88
Especially after his recent upgrade(Which you have to consider also).

I would consider it if Spiderman did anything to show me that his upgrades were really anything substantial, and yet look at what he's done:
Been beaten by Captain America in hand to hand confrontations..twice.
Got tagged repeatedly by El Muerte.
Got stabbed by Wolverine, and blitzed/tackled by Wolverine recently in Fallen Son.

Aside from making Tony Stark look like an idiot and beating up a bunch of villains in a fasion that he honestly would have done before the upgrades anyways, I don't see what he's done to validate that he's really THAT much faster. Hell he's been SHOT SINCE his upgrades. :/

Originally posted by viper88
However you have to take spiderman's spider sense in to consideration also, which will give spiderman just enough to be that one step ahead of him.

Which I would consider as that type of advanatage if Spidey hadn't already admitted that his Spider sense is only an equilizer against the fighting prowess and h2h talent and knowledge of guys like Iron Fist, Steel Dragon, and Captain America.

Originally posted by viper88
Also about the scan were wolverine knocks out speed demon, spiderman has done it also. And in my opinion it is CIS/PIS both times, since speed demon, like the idiot that he is either runs in a straight line or in circles. When he is fully capable to randomize his attacks and even dodge either of their blows with no problem.

All speedsters have the same issues as speed demon in that they can be lead.

Originally posted by viper88
again my bad about being ignorant about wolverine speed.

It's cool, I'm pleasanlty surprised that your so willing to comprimise here, it's refreshing. Thank you.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by JasonK4
Thanks man...I'm going to download those issues now...
and also, was it bone-claw wolverine that beat hulk by dropping a bridge on him? 😬

Yeah that was Skrullverine actually, and he didn't beat him, Hulk was dying because he couldn't breath and had that bridge on him, but tyrannus unleashed his full rage and he batted the bridge away like a house of cards. Wolverine beat him by accident when Hulk ran himself into a cave with natural gas deposits, and gassed himself unconcious trying to get Wolverine.

Badabing Gym rat

Jinzin, isn't one Spider-Man vs Wolverine thread enough to consume your life? 😛

JasonK4 Restricted

Originally posted by Badabing
Jinzin, isn't one Spider-Man vs Wolverine thread enough to consume your life? 😛

The Badabing I know always adds dur in his post's....WHO ARE YOU ?!?!?

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Badabing
Jinzin, isn't one Spider-Man vs Wolverine thread enough to consume your life? 😛

Originally posted by JasonK4
The Badabing I know always adds dur in his post's....WHO ARE YOU ?!?!?

what he said..

It's a SKRULL!!! GET HIM! 😠

Badabing Gym rat

Originally posted by JasonK4
The Badabing I know always adds dur in his post's....WHO ARE YOU ?!?!?

durfist

Originally posted by jinzin
what he said..
It's a SKRULL!!! GET HIM! 😠

durcry2

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by carver9
Wasnt trying to fuss, sorry if i came off like that.

It's all good. Just try not to make it seem like anyone who thinks Spidey should logically beat Wolvie is some sort of fanboy.

Originally posted by carver9
Now the incident in the grave yard, you do know that wolverine wasnt even trying to fight spiderman. Please dont let me show you the fight on the roof where spiderman got owned and only got one lick in.

Saw that already. Spidey had the "kid-gloves" on because he thought he was fighting a Wolvie imposter. Wolvie was trying to tag Spidey in the graveyard & he was trying to get up. Until Spidey let him, Wolvie was unable to do either. Spidey was way too fast & way too strong for him even though Spidey himself thought he was fighting "slow & stupid". I agree 1000x over on the stupid part. Dude's got an unbreakable skull & you know it. Why the fu*k would you keep punching him in the head!?!?!?

Originally posted by carver9
Or wolverine could just do this again but faster.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4063175

Unlikely. Was that even a fight? Looks like they were just talking & then Wolvie snapped on him

Originally posted by carver9
Spiderman cant beat this guy. He had a better chance (even though he would still lose) against adamantium wolverine.

I thinks it's the exact opposite. Adamantium is the only thing that keeps Wolvie from getting killed or KOed here. Metal or no metal, the guy's still not fast as Spidey.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
Was that even a fight? Looks like they were just talking & then Wolvie snapped on him

Pitty his spidey sense didn't warn him..or if it did he wasn't fast enough to react to it.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
It's all good. Just try not to make it seem like anyone who thinks Spidey should logically beat Wolvie is some sort of fanboy.
Saw that already. Spidey had the "kid-gloves" on because he thought he was fighting a Wolvie imposter. Wolvie was trying to tag Spidey in the graveyard & he was trying to get up. Until Spidey let him, Wolvie was unable to do either. Spidey was way too fast & way too strong for him even though Spidey himself thought he was fighting "slow & stupid". I agree 1000x over on the stupid part. Dude's got an unbreakable skull & you know it. Why the fu*k would you keep punching him in the head!?!?!?Unlikely. Was that even a fight? Looks like they were just talking & then Wolvie snapped on him
I thinks it's the exact opposite. Adamantium is the only thing that keeps Wolvie from getting killed or KOed here. Metal or no metal, the guy's still not fast as Spidey.

I guess you didnt read the book. Spidey didnt have any kind of kid gloves on. Spiderman was scared for his life and was giving it all he got. Wolverine was the one toying with him. Read it one more time for me.

And no, its not the opposite. Wolverine is much faster, agile, etc... and it wouldnt be hard at all for him to tag spiderman in those conditions. Spiderman strength means jack in this fight and if he gets close enough that would be a good way for wolverine to get that fatal gut in.

Captain america has owned an upgraded spiderman, morlun has owned a upgraded spiderman, x23 even owned spiderman.

Wolverine is winning this fight. Like i said it would be better to put him against adamantium wolverine. The fight would last a little longer. Shield files has stated that wolverine is superior to spiderman. It cant get no better than that.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
It's all good. Just try not to make it seem like anyone who thinks Spidey should logically beat Wolvie is some sort of fanboy.
Saw that already. Spidey had the "kid-gloves" on because he thought he was fighting a Wolvie imposter.

HE wasn't holding back his punches when he showed up, and him having "kid gloves" on doesn't mean that he was letting himself be hit either. Spiderman not hitting at his fullets of power doesn't make him slower or less capible with his spider sense.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Wolvie was trying to tag Spidey in the graveyard & he was trying to get up. Until Spidey let him, Wolvie was unable to do either.

Speculation on both counts.
If he really was trying to hit spiderman with the claws why did he sheath them when he had the chance?
Simple, cause he wasn't.
Every time they've fought since Logan's hit or snatched Spiderman.
It's folly to think that Spiderman can't be touched by him.

If Wolverine wanted up he would have got up.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey was way too fast & way too strong for him

No he isn't, and Wolverine's proved it half a dozen times now.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Adamantium is the only thing that keeps Wolvie from getting killed or KOed here. Metal or no metal, the guy's still not fast as Spidey.

Obviously you're wrong, Admanantium has nothing to do with Wolverine being hard to KO, And Spiderman doesn't hit harder than Hulk, Roughouse, Wendigo, or Onslaught. Bone claws Wolverine held up to punches and punishment from every one of these guys.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by jinzin
Well obviously you're wrong since bone claw Wolvie was taking punishment from Hulk and staying concious, took a beating from Wendigo and still managed to win the fight, took a tortorous beating from roughouse all day and still managed to beat him and bloodscream at the same time.
He can handle a hit from spiderman.
Wolverine LET Spidey start hitting him in the first place.. We've been over this and I KNOW you haven't forgotten.

Oh shit it's Jinzin. How ya been mane? I think I remember us agreeing to disagree. I still think the "here it comes" comment was a threat. Did Hulk & Wendy punch BC Wolvie Full out in the face?

Originally posted by jinzin
HE wasn't holding back his punches when he showed up, and him having "kid gloves" on doesn't mean that he was letting himself be hit either. Spiderman not hitting at his fullets of power doesn't make him slower or less capible with his spider sense.
Speculation on both counts.
If he really was trying to hit spiderman with the claws why did he sheath them when he had the chance?
Simple, cause he wasn't.
Every time they've fought since Logan's hit or snatched Spiderman.
It's folly to think that Spiderman can't be touched by him.
If Wolverine wanted up he would have got up.
No he isn't, and Wolverine's proved it half a dozen times now.

Nah. The outcome of a Spidey Wolvie fight is based on whether Spidey fu*ks up or not. Spidey wasn't going full out at any time on the roof. Think about it. I proved it to Cresh a while back. I'll do it again, but I'd rather not have to.

brainchild81 Privateer

Originally posted by carver9
I guess you didnt read the book. Spidey didnt have any kind of kid gloves on. Spiderman was scared for his life and was giving it all he got. Wolverine was the one toying with him. Read it one more time for me.

Read what I posted again. We were talking about the roof. Spidey was wearing kid-gloves. Read what he was thinking. Spidey hardly ever goes "all out" 'cause he's afraid he'll "K a B"

Originally posted by carver9
And no, its not the opposite. Wolverine is much faster, agile, etc... and it wouldnt be hard at all for him to tag spiderman in those conditions. Spiderman strength means jack in this fight and if he gets close enough that would be a good way for wolverine to get that fatal gut in.
Captain america has owned an upgraded spiderman, morlun has owned a upgraded spiderman, x23 even owned spiderman.
Wolverine is winning this fight. Like i said it would be better to put him against adamantium wolverine. The fight would last a little longer. Shield files has stated that wolverine is superior to spiderman. It cant get no better than that.

Don't those take willingness to kill into account? & Spidey'd never go full out on another hero so Cap & x23 don't count

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
Oh shit it's Jinzin. How ya been mane?

Kinda rough, but I'm doing better. You?

Originally posted by brainchild81
I think I remember us agreeing to disagree. I still think the "here it comes" comment was a threat.

Oh, fair enough, I clearly disagree.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Did Hulk & Wendy punch BC Wolvie Full out in the face?Nah.

Umm yeah... actually, Wendigo drilled Wolverine through a concrete wall. Hulk punched Wolverine through various floors of the x-mansion, and on another occassion punched him in the face THEN threw a truck on him that exploded, Wolverine then proceeded to attack him head on.
And "full strength" hits don't matter as is, since a swat from either character is still hitting with more force than Spiderman could possibly muster...

None of the bricks that i rattled off were holding back for Logan's sake.

Originally posted by brainchild81
The outcome of a Spidey Wolvie fight is based on whether Spidey fu*ks up or not.

ALL fights are based on that type of stipulation and frankly Spiderman hasn't shown that he more likely won't while fighting Wolverine.

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey wasn't going full out at any time on the roof. Think about it. I proved it to Cresh a while back. I'll do it again, but I'd rather not have to.

He was punching hard enough to turn brick Chimmneys into debris and obliterate metal pipes, "spidey was holding back" isn't a comment that makes much sense until AFTER Spidey threw his first punches and got punched across the rooftop.
And again, him punching all out has nothing to do with the fact that he was still being dodged and hit.

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by brainchild81
Read what I posted again. We were talking about the roof. Spidey was wearing kid-gloves. Read what he was thinking. Spidey hardly ever goes "all out" 'cause he's afraid he'll "K a B"
Don't those take willingness to kill into account? & Spidey'd never go full out on another hero so Cap & x23 don't count

CIS is not exempt from debates so they do count.

Battlehammer Senior Member

spiderman every time .

jinzin Senior Member

Originally posted by Battlehammer
spiderman every time .

Okay who gotta ahold of capts account?

badabing!!!! 😠